PALM my new favorite band

I'm down with imago's takedowns fwiw

being passionate about the music you like is a good thing. being as passionate about the music you hate is not.

― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you don't hate anything, you don't love anything

But there's nothing won't with a little filtering either. Unilateral negativity does tend to make the thread more about the poster than about the music.

if you don't hate anything, you don't love anything

― Paul Ponzi

great words of wisdom. similarly, can one _really_ call oneself a pacifist unless one's killed something?

i enjoyed imago’s post.

i mean god forbid somebody expresses an opinion on something they can’t quite get into. the post was thoughtful i thought, and i def don’t get the condescending vibes some ppl are picking up on here.

also sund4r otm re: marsh.

also let’s be kind to each other please, imago’s post was sincere and coming from a place of love i think

Imago, I'm trying to articulate it on a couple of listens. I was almost guaranteed to like something that got compared to both Mew and Horse Lords. I think a lot has to do with the way the tempo changes and stops and starts can feel almost viscerally jarring while the gentle, melodic vocal lines almost work like a balm. The guitar sound (with chorus, harmonizer, and short delay, I think, playing these mid to high-register staccato figures, with angular melodic choices) is really distinct and has similar sweet/jarring quality. They don't give you the kind of satisfaction in terms of formal development of songwriting that Mew do: they're doing something more aphoristic, like Wire did maybe?(Probably This Heat too but I don't know them well enough.)

Obv remains to be seen whether it stands the test of time but it is grabbing me rn.

Tbf imago hating Palm is more like Marsh working out why he doesn't like a 60s soul record when he lives for Marvin Gaye as opposed to Marsh bullshitting about latent fascism in every 70s prog record.

― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)

i can accept that, but there's still no actual answer there. god knows i've spent plenty of fruitless time trying to figure out systematically why i like some things and don't like others, because it would save me a lot of effort listening to music i wind up not liking. there's no answer there. a large percentage of music is music i don't particularly like, which doesn't make it bad, which doesn't make other people wrong for liking it. there are so many other things for me to be upset, offended, and enraged by that hating music, most of the time, just seems like a fucking waste.

TS: getting riled up from hating music vs. getting riled up by other people hating music

it's a fair cop, i've been extremely cranky and irritable ever since i gave up on arguing politics and i'm definitely taking out my repressed hostility on this thread

been feeling a bit ashamed because the bit flopson picked on really was a little too much

I can kinda get imago's qualms. I have seen this band live twice and was utterly entranced both times, but when I try to listen to their records, I get bored. They are really good at building tension through repetition, and the tension seems to come across with much more power in a live setting.

xp no it wasn't. good lord. i like palm (i think i started this thread) but i enjoyed imago's post. good points, thoughtful examination trying to work out why they don't like palm or horse lords. it's interesting. imago is not turrican. come on everyone

tbh i am also weary of polyrhythmic rock bands on record, and i much prefer palm & horse lords live (though i think they've made great records - i just don't find myself reaching for them very often. unlike Don Cab)

but maybe if i was around... wherever tf don cab were from and was able to see them dozens of times i'd feel differently

some of you are being way too reasonable to me haha, I should have toned my post way down while still examining my misgivings

I can certainly imagine this lot being quite the force as a live band

what's to tone down? god forbid someone disagrees or tries to figure out why they hate a band you like... honestly perplexed at reaction to your post.

New album is growing on me. Not as immediate as Rock Island, the hooks are slightly hidden in the more maximalist production. I’m OK with that.

forgot this is where i beefed with flopson lol. sorry flopson

will give these guys another chance

Grateful for this thread revive. It's like ILM clash of the titans.

Also I will check out this band and report back with my beloved hot takes.

Ok so I listened to the new one and imago's "monumentally unpleasant take" on the previous album is still pretty much otm.