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Yeah, I thought of the Baraboo photo as well. But am I wrong in getting the impression that this is getting more attention than that?

jmm, Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

There's also a particular identifiable victim in this case, the man being harassed. I don't know if that could make a difference.

jmm, Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link

There seems to be absolute outrage left right and centre about this all over my socials, by comparison i don't remember much about the chucklehounds doing the nazi salutes. There's something especially eerie about being stared at silently while you try and go about your business. Anyone who's done long periods of performing in public places or whatever knows exactly the feeling. It speaks of a very specifically disturbed kind of mind to do that type of shit. What a toerag. He's probably just ruined his whole life.

piscesx, Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link

nah i suspect he'll be just fine.

the only suitable remedy i can see is to take his family's home and make them walk to Oklahoma.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

Prez will still manage to "both-sides" this somehow

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link

I can't get over that there was minimum one adult around who was watching this and not removing psychochild from the premises

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 20 January 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link

They were there for an anti-abortion rally.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 20 January 2019 00:53 (five years ago) link

I refuse to follow politics anymore this shit is too exhausting see y'all in 2020

flappy bird, Sunday, 20 January 2019 00:55 (five years ago) link

otm

brownie, Sunday, 20 January 2019 01:05 (five years ago) link

man what are you supposed to do when it's kids who are chuds

have some fuckin self-respect, kids

j., Sunday, 20 January 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link

All teenagers are chuds.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:30 (five years ago) link

maybe, but it takes a certain kind of chud to behave like that.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:35 (five years ago) link

may have been said elsewhere, but this generation of young conservatives is smaller than previous eras, but its preoccupations are almost entirely white/male ID politics

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:45 (five years ago) link

nice to see pretty much everyone on the internet is having the same reaction to that kid as I am

frogbs, Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:13 (five years ago) link

He's now facing expulsion from his Catholic high school so there's that, at least.

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 January 2019 10:29 (five years ago) link

All teenagers are chuds.

i don't think this is even remotely true?

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Sunday, 20 January 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link

He's now facing expulsion from his Catholic high school

for getting caught

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Sunday, 20 January 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link

I thought that, on average, US Catholics were less racist than members of other denominations.

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 January 2019 10:50 (five years ago) link

All teenagers are chuds.

i don't think this is even remotely true?

― Bênoit Balls (stevie), Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:35 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah c.f. parkland kids

Clay, Sunday, 20 January 2019 11:38 (five years ago) link

unless unperson is 12 years old in which case fair dos

nashwan, Sunday, 20 January 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link

All teenagers are chuds.

If this was meant affectionately then aye, I agree. If not, well.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Sunday, 20 January 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link

I thought that, on average, US Catholics were less racist than members of other denominations.

― pomenitul

i believe us catholicism is going through a significant amount of, uh, demographic change.

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

I feel like there are definitely some vaguely liberal dioceses in the (urban) US but you’re talking about religious white ppl in Kentucky. it’s essentially a white ID movement at this point whether you’re taking about evangelicals or conservative Catholics.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link

A few people posting that kids and parents at this school would be better Trump-voter profile subjects than the usual diner denizens, seeing as they are well-off and educated yet, hmm, still resentful, vindictive, entitled ignorant racist assholes.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link

There’s educated and ‘educated’ though: the college-educated Trump voter probably didn’t leave their home state for tertiary education and could best be described as petit bourgeois.

suzy, Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

i dislike the implication that not traveling equates to ignorance.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link

Conversely, I've met people who've been to every continent and visited at least half of the world's countries and it hasn't made them any less jingoistic and xenophobic.

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 January 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link

it reminds me of the rapist roosh v being interviewed by angela washko, where he assumes she hasn't traveled and is therefore not as experienced as he.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 20 January 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

There’s educated and ‘educated’ though: the college-educated Trump voter probably didn’t leave their home state for tertiary education and could best be described as petit bourgeois.

― suzy, Sunday, January 20, 2019 8:29 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol or or or prob college educated trump voters are usually christian white dudes

signed,
the petit bourgeois (tx)

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 20 January 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link

Oh, the people I’m thinking of have the cash and inclination to travel, but it’s about their social groupings and values at home that make them Republicans/bigots/conservative.

suzy, Sunday, 20 January 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link

I don't know what travel has to do with anything. These particular Catholic school kids ($10K a year in tuition) are simply the opposite of the "whoa is me, the coal plant closed down and Mexicans took my job so I'm going to vote for Trump to make things right" class. These folks are well-off and secure, which gives them no place to hide their racist, reactionary intent.

Then again, who knows. There was a stupid-ass kid here in my consciously (and self-consciously, and self-righteously) progressive community who got busted last year for scribbling swastikas and other hate speech on bathroom walls. As far as I can tell, his parents are tolerant, even welcoming upstanding members of the community. Sometimes kids are just shits who make bad decisions, and god help us, historically, when those kinds of kids gather in a group.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 January 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

hahaha wowowow chuds on social media are really going all in that the native american veteran was the agressor

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 20 January 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link

Hah I saw a guy sincerely try to use “kid was just entranced and fascinated by the music”

frogbs, Sunday, 20 January 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

Apple, tree, etc.

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 January 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link

on the other hand, black Muslims, what can you do?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 January 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link

shocking, I thought he'd be empathizing with them from the start

Turns out that the Covington Catholic kids were the good guys in the story. Consider this my public apology for assuming otherwise in my Periscope yesterday. I got fooled by @CNN fake news. That's 100% on me. https://t.co/GhkWigsDQQ

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) January 20, 2019

frogbs, Sunday, 20 January 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link

What, Scott Adams ends up taking the Right on an issue? Phew...

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 20 January 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

aw damn Scotty blocked me :-(

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link

Alt-right is like alternative facts. There’s the right way people should act; and then there’s the alternative right way people should act.

٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link

Just in: Statement of Nick Sandmann, Covington Catholic High School junior, about the event at the Lincoln Memorial: pic.twitter.com/PkuMh2cVZM

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 20, 2019

what are the odds that 'incest kids' was really 'incel kids' lol

j., Monday, 21 January 2019 00:12 (five years ago) link

i watched a lot of the og video. the hecklers were def going the "incest" route. tbf, lil maga man does a Hapsburg ass chin.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 21 January 2019 00:43 (five years ago) link

NY Times’ new conclusion; ‘It’s complicated’ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/20/us/nathan-phillips-covington.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

piscesx, Monday, 21 January 2019 01:33 (five years ago) link

how could it be anything other than what you snap-perceived it to be. lol nytimes

(ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Monday, 21 January 2019 01:53 (five years ago) link

is there really no-one else here who thinks there's something creepy about large numbers of adults singling out one individual child, putting his face and name all over the internet, fantasizing about beating him up, writing articles about how he's a symbol of everything wrong with America etc?

lots of ppl sharing this take - the fact this kid doesn't seem to have actually done anything in particular is just evidence of how wicked and hateful he really is

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxYVBlNWoAAu6UO.jpg

soref, Monday, 21 January 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link

Nothing arouses America more than Manichaean symbolism.

pomenitul, Monday, 21 January 2019 10:33 (five years ago) link

Kid had a MAGA hat on, in a country where the police routinely kills black teenagers and the media then starts demonizing the teenagers. Stop defending him.

Frederik B, Monday, 21 January 2019 10:37 (five years ago) link

I don't think anyone's defending his actions but the outrage has been disproportionate given his age. Then again, it's never been about him per se but about what he stands for – he's an image, not a person.

pomenitul, Monday, 21 January 2019 10:42 (five years ago) link

ppl can momentarily embody wider social tensions and processes for which they ofc aren't individually responsible. you don't have to think this kid is an irredeemable demon to agree w that marlon james post

ogmor, Monday, 21 January 2019 10:55 (five years ago) link

maybe, but a lot of the ppl sharing that post do seem to think the kid is an irredeemable demon, and are explicitly not seeing this in terms of him 'momentarily' embodying wider social tensions

look, maybe I'm taking all of this too personally - I'm autistic and frequently get into situations where I'm stood somewhere with what turns out to be an 'inappropriate' facial expression that people take offence to, and infer from that expression all kinds of things about what I'm thinking, feeling etc. I've seen loads of stuff like this, which is like some kind of anxiety dream version of that happening on a massively larger scale:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxYIX_zWwAEBay_.jpg

the crowd of schoolkids as a whole were being rowdy and obnoxious, this particular kid who ppl are enthusiastically turning into an emblem of everything bad in Trump's America is almost certainly an asshole, but I no-one deserves this

soref, Monday, 21 January 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link


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