the alt-right

All teenagers are chuds.

i don't think this is even remotely true?

― Bênoit Balls (stevie), Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:35 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah c.f. parkland kids

unless unperson is 12 years old in which case fair dos

All teenagers are chuds.

If this was meant affectionately then aye, I agree. If not, well.

I thought that, on average, US Catholics were less racist than members of other denominations.

― pomenitul

i believe us catholicism is going through a significant amount of, uh, demographic change.

I feel like there are definitely some vaguely liberal dioceses in the (urban) US but you’re talking about religious white ppl in Kentucky. it’s essentially a white ID movement at this point whether you’re taking about evangelicals or conservative Catholics.

A few people posting that kids and parents at this school would be better Trump-voter profile subjects than the usual diner denizens, seeing as they are well-off and educated yet, hmm, still resentful, vindictive, entitled ignorant racist assholes.

There’s educated and ‘educated’ though: the college-educated Trump voter probably didn’t leave their home state for tertiary education and could best be described as petit bourgeois.

i dislike the implication that not traveling equates to ignorance.

Conversely, I've met people who've been to every continent and visited at least half of the world's countries and it hasn't made them any less jingoistic and xenophobic.

it reminds me of the rapist roosh v being interviewed by angela washko, where he assumes she hasn't traveled and is therefore not as experienced as he.

There’s educated and ‘educated’ though: the college-educated Trump voter probably didn’t leave their home state for tertiary education and could best be described as petit bourgeois.

― suzy, Sunday, January 20, 2019 8:29 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol or or or prob college educated trump voters are usually christian white dudes

signed,
the petit bourgeois (tx)

Oh, the people I’m thinking of have the cash and inclination to travel, but it’s about their social groupings and values at home that make them Republicans/bigots/conservative.

I don't know what travel has to do with anything. These particular Catholic school kids ($10K a year in tuition) are simply the opposite of the "whoa is me, the coal plant closed down and Mexicans took my job so I'm going to vote for Trump to make things right" class. These folks are well-off and secure, which gives them no place to hide their racist, reactionary intent.

Then again, who knows. There was a stupid-ass kid here in my consciously (and self-consciously, and self-righteously) progressive community who got busted last year for scribbling swastikas and other hate speech on bathroom walls. As far as I can tell, his parents are tolerant, even welcoming upstanding members of the community. Sometimes kids are just shits who make bad decisions, and god help us, historically, when those kinds of kids gather in a group.

hahaha wowowow chuds on social media are really going all in that the native american veteran was the agressor

Hah I saw a guy sincerely try to use “kid was just entranced and fascinated by the music”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/maga-hat-donald-trump-native-american-covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-black-muslims-a8737186.html

Apple, tree, etc.

on the other hand, black Muslims, what can you do?

shocking, I thought he'd be empathizing with them from the start

Turns out that the Covington Catholic kids were the good guys in the story. Consider this my public apology for assuming otherwise in my Periscope yesterday. I got fooled by @CNN fake news. That's 100% on me. https://t.co/GhkWigsDQQ

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) January 20, 2019

What, Scott Adams ends up taking the Right on an issue? Phew...

aw damn Scotty blocked me :-(

Alt-right is like alternative facts. There’s the right way people should act; and then there’s the alternative right way people should act.

Just in: Statement of Nick Sandmann, Covington Catholic High School junior, about the event at the Lincoln Memorial: pic.twitter.com/PkuMh2cVZM

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 20, 2019

what are the odds that 'incest kids' was really 'incel kids' lol

i watched a lot of the og video. the hecklers were def going the "incest" route. tbf, lil maga man does a Hapsburg ass chin.

NY Times’ new conclusion; ‘It’s complicated’ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/20/us/nathan-phillips-covington.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

how could it be anything other than what you snap-perceived it to be. lol nytimes

is there really no-one else here who thinks there's something creepy about large numbers of adults singling out one individual child, putting his face and name all over the internet, fantasizing about beating him up, writing articles about how he's a symbol of everything wrong with America etc?

lots of ppl sharing this take - the fact this kid doesn't seem to have actually done anything in particular is just evidence of how wicked and hateful he really is

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxYVBlNWoAAu6UO.jpg

Nothing arouses America more than Manichaean symbolism.

Kid had a MAGA hat on, in a country where the police routinely kills black teenagers and the media then starts demonizing the teenagers. Stop defending him.

I don't think anyone's defending his actions but the outrage has been disproportionate given his age. Then again, it's never been about him per se but about what he stands for – he's an image, not a person.

ppl can momentarily embody wider social tensions and processes for which they ofc aren't individually responsible. you don't have to think this kid is an irredeemable demon to agree w that marlon james post

maybe, but a lot of the ppl sharing that post do seem to think the kid is an irredeemable demon, and are explicitly not seeing this in terms of him 'momentarily' embodying wider social tensions

look, maybe I'm taking all of this too personally - I'm autistic and frequently get into situations where I'm stood somewhere with what turns out to be an 'inappropriate' facial expression that people take offence to, and infer from that expression all kinds of things about what I'm thinking, feeling etc. I've seen loads of stuff like this, which is like some kind of anxiety dream version of that happening on a massively larger scale:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxYIX_zWwAEBay_.jpg

the crowd of schoolkids as a whole were being rowdy and obnoxious, this particular kid who ppl are enthusiastically turning into an emblem of everything bad in Trump's America is almost certainly an asshole, but I no-one deserves this

His age never made it ok, and his behaviour is still really racist - the irony here is that the Native American veteran literally went over there as a peace offering, and the kid thought he was provoking him and stared him down, and the reaction now is that we shouldn't have been so quick to think bad of white people. But of course it was always about what they represented.

It was always the hat, as much as the smile.

there will always be ppl out there willing to judge you to be an irredeemable demon, you have to either disconnect or be prepared to not give every opinion serious consideration

Or not go to a March for Life demonstration wearing a MAGA hat. I know, people are so cruel.

The kid obviously sucks but the principle of “making an example” of someone is gross. I’m proud of ilx for seeing nuance here.

I remain unconvinced that age isn't a factor here. Doubly so in light of his family's statements, which betray some heavy-duty ideological reproduction. Scapegoating a teenager is never ok, no matter how just your cause. And the act of dissociating the 'man' himself from his viral likeness is fraught with ambiguity.

That full video is kind of dreamlike. The black israelite preaching while one of his associates (i think) circles around them on a hover-skateboard. The guy switches between saying really provocative, awful things to the native protesters and then calling out real injustice—the rage isncoming from somewhere real even if the theology is exclusionary. Then suddenly the MAGA kids gather on the top of the steps and begin chanting incoherently in response to the street preacher. At one point a kid takes off his shirt and jumps in front of the crowd to lead them in some kind of chant, leading the guy with the camera (a black israelite) to turn it to himself and say “look who the real cavemen are.” This is around the point when Philips comes in and confronts the kids with the peace offering. The kids are by this point already super riled up.

Who is talking about scapegoating? Thinking a young guy in a MAGA-hat is a piece of shit / budding sociopath is not scapegoating or lacking nuance. It's realistic. And for many people quite necessary.

This is around the point when Philips comes in and confronts the kids with the peace offering.

Oh shut the fuck up

That is what happened

Philips is the native protester. He said he was trying to de-escalate the situation. I believe him.

'confronts'?

Approaches?

If you want to make me seem i’m pro-MAGA or something knock yourself out.

To 'confront' can also simply mean 'to encounter, to come face to face with'.

Yeah, and it can mean other stuff. So say it a less shitty way if you don't want to be judged.

yes it can and of course that is what i meant.

Fuck