the alt-right

Xp

Yeah but "echo chamber" arguments veer in that direction sometimes I think. They're not the best critique of a failure to analyse your own core beliefs? Really I'm not sure that "debate" is the strongest method of self-critique at all

Have ya maybe considered that someone's environment dictates who they're friends with, dictates their social media feed?

I'm a 38 year old kid who spent most of his late teens and 20s around the Theatre Community. That's where most of my friends come from. So obviously they slant liberal and LGBTQ friendly. We argue about things all the time. I'm further left than most of them.

I also have a lot of friends outside of that community. I don't screen for political beliefs before I'll allow a friendship. But I won't just add randos on social media either. Usually people i know IRL. This includes conservative friends. But it stands to reason that I'm friends with more left leaners, y'know. Cos those are the people i see the most in my daily life.

I can't remember the last time I saw a knockdown drag out battle on someone's wall that didn't begin "who the fuck are you, anyway? I don't remember adding you"

I have had two Trumpers on my wall show their asses. One posted a huge, idiotic post defending the Charlottesville Unite the Righters and bashing Antifa. He was a high school friend, I said "k maybe I didn't know you after all" and defriended him and he has spent the last two years whining to my IRL pals that I blocked him over a disagreement (you say potato, I say "hate speech").

The other shows his ass and is rude to friends all the time but I didn't dare defriend him cos i know him IRL and ohhh the whining.

My original weird thread statement was really more about how they turned this into a total rashomon event when it was pretty clear from the beginning.The word gaslit is being thrown around so much but it was starting to feel like that here. And it's fine to get all debate clubby but ilx is pretty male dominated these days so whatever opinion I have I am going to amplify it more.

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mordy, if you want to be my fb friend all you had to do was ask.

well tell me - do u do that thing where you post some daily outrage link to slate or salon and just like one word "THIS" (this is the ilxor fb house style) bc we could become friends but i'd have to unfollow u immediately.

someone can support feminism without supporting a carceral state or shaming. saying 'oh some men are here' doesn't make you automatically more left-leaning than them. a true discussion of our relative privileges in relation to each other would require a deeper analysis of our actual lives than most can be bothered with - ideally we should probably avoid assumptions from that sphere.

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And it's fine to get all debate clubby but ilx is pretty male dominated these days so whatever opinion I have I am going to amplify it more.

w/ affection i say this, u strike me as the kind of person who is happy to share their opinion no matter what the gender makeup of the crowd

i very rarely post on my own wall but when i do start shit once a year or so i get a little thrill watching my "friend" count go down.

xpost I post twice a year and I am over a year behind. I actually do unfriending maintenance quarterly but mostly because I don't know them in real life and they never post/comment and I like to keep my friend count low.

Yeah I am opinionated but mostly because I am usually right. Ha!

I didn't know who the dummy was until he hired a PR firm and revealed himself. The fact that his parents had the wherewithal to immediately hire and pay for a PR firm in the first place I think is part of the story. It's not about what's right or wrong, or owning up to that, it's about making sure your side of the story is the one that people believe, or believe enough to counter the prevailing narrative. Which is to say, using your money and privilege to change the discussion in your favor. Buying a big bouquet of "both sides do it."

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:21 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was thinking about this last night and this morning, that part of what "that look" on the student's face is communicating is that his actions have never had consequences for him (though they may for others). And his family being able to hire a Republican/GOP-related PR firm to protect him from consequences this time around is perfectly in line with his privilege. If nothing else, he probably has a job already lined up for him at the Federalist Society in about 10 years.

So yes, his arrogance is itself offensive, on top of his actions, and it probably does trigger a lot of people who have been oppressed by little princes of the world with that confidence of immunity. It's a shitty system. We should dismantle it and build a better one.

tbc his actions in this case are standing still and smirking afai/wk he did not say or do anything else

i may not agree with your smirk but i will defend to the death half-heartedly online your right to make it

make a smirker great again

could be the shape of his skull

What we really should be talking about is L'il Ben Shapiro delivering his March for Life speech as a podcast episode and reading live advertisements to the attending crowd. And then losing advertisers.

yes IO is otm -- the kid needs work, but the society that produced him needs an overhaul

At the time, Nintendo of America had strict censorship policies concerning what sort of content could be depicted or referenced in any game published for a Nintendo system. In the original Japanese version, the DREK "empire" is actually the resurrected Nazi regime, but this was changed so as to fit the prohibition against political advocacy, racial and or ethnic stereotyping.

Yet, some of the changes were more complete than others. The final boss, Smirk, is clearly a cyborg version of Adolf Hitler and a file retrieved by Togo during a base infiltration in Greece retains a swastika on it, which is visible in the player's inventory area. Nintendo required that Golgo had his profession changed to spy rather than assassin, per its prohibition on graphic violence and gore.

NOA's smirk

just sharing the Light of the Lord

Newest video to surface of the Covington kids shows one of them yelling to a group of girls “IT’S NOT RAPE IF YOU ENJOY IT!” Fuck anyone who is still defending them. Catholic Schools in the south like Covington are incubators for vile racism and misogyny.pic.twitter.com/j65KhqWeaG

— Andrew Wortman (@AmoneyResists) January 22, 2019

I hope no-one is planning to single out the poor child who shouted “IT’S NOT RAPE IF YOU ENJOY IT!” for any special attention - that would be disgraceful.

One thing after another

please single out that child so you can demonstrate you understand the difference between a smirk and verbal abuse

this has been one of the most pointless ilx clusterfucks in quite some time

We could spend the rest of our lives watching footage of stupid teenagers saying and doing stupid things tbh.

this has been one of the most pointless ilx clusterfucks in quite some time

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:25 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah cmon theres been fuck all competition!

Make ILX Clusterfuck Again

the crowd of schoolkids as a whole were being rowdy and obnoxious, this particular kid who ppl are enthusiastically turning into an emblem of everything bad in Trump's America is almost certainly an asshole, but I no-one deserves this

― soref, Monday, January 21, 2019 11:01 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

For Sandmann and his colleagues, their actual intentions and motivations seem vital to any account of what took place. But not only can we never really know what those were, they also don’t matter once the original video has been shot and shared. That short clip shows a young man with a smirk, wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat, appearing to stare down a Native elder: Simply describing the scene, at this political and cultural moment, suggests a racist threat.

That’s not just because the internet makes it easy to come to simple and quick conclusions, and to spread those answers as truth before verification. It’s also because such an edit almost seems purpose-built to service that conclusion. It juxtaposes an almost perfect avatar for apparent white nationalism, maga hat and all, with the apparent cultural frailty of a brown-skinned victim carrying out an act of indigenous humility. Whether Sandmann and Phillips are telling the truth or not matters only marginally—the image and the clip take on a life of their own, reproducing a conflict that viewers have already been primed to seek out by the overall political situation and their place in it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/viral-clash-students-and-native-americans-explained/580906/

make a smirker great again

NOA's smirk

they're going to WH to meet with Trump

Trump loves a pointless distraction that outrages the libtards

amazing how the internet always takes the bait

EXCLUSIVE on the new #LauraIngrahamPodcast — the Covington Catholic students threatened by the leftist internet mob will be meeting with @realDonaldTrump at the White House as early as tomorrow. @iTunes @PodcastOne

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) January 22, 2019

keep that outrage about some totally insignificant bullshit going everybody! not like there are any more important things to worry about or anything

I think I referenced this on the other thread, but twitter and using anonymous avatars as a newssource/barometer of sentiment is just bad bad bad.

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2019/01/17/takedown-gillette-advert-backlash-fascinating-take-media-works/?fbclid=IwAR24OyZygP7lZlTSJBY0TkNkToUzLduTLQv_OYBsWB92-OrQwsO30cqAEps

Jesus Christ. One more strike and you’re out deems
― gray say nah to me (wins), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:42 (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fuck are u to judge me maannnnn

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/22/why-trump-is-overjoyed-covington-student-controversy/?utm_term=.8776c88832ea

let that be a lesson to all the young people out there, if you wanna meet the President of the United States all you gotta do is bully an elderly Native American man

thats p consistent with yr historical ideals tbf

look at him, so destroyed

Sitting down with Nicholas Sandmann - the student at the center of the protest controversy at the Lincoln Memorial. Airs tomorrow on @TODAYshow pic.twitter.com/oSb8ljunQN

— Savannah Guthrie (@SavannahGuthrie) January 22, 2019

keep that outrage about some totally insignificant bullshit going everybody! not like there are any more important things to worry about or anything

― Οὖτις

this constant bickering about what it's appropriate to be outraged about is one of the main reasons i don't go near the big us politics threads

the other reason being, oddly enough, a constant focus on insignificant minutae

seriously i can't even remember the last time i cared about how trump and his supporters think or feel

The smirk works.

JFC @ the today show thing

🎶 Hello, darkness, my old friend 🎶 pic.twitter.com/QHq3TFfRB6

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) January 22, 2019

the fuck are u to judge me maannnnn

the young smirks

Shakey, I'd say if we collectively only had the capacity to focus on any one thing at a time (which may be true on a case-by-case basis) that this nonsense is an inconsequential distraction compared to bigger and more impactful issues. But, well...it's massively fucked up and gross and I hope everyone involved in venerating abject villainy like its some kind of all-American aspiration just like fucking spontaneously melts into a protoplasmic ooze and runs down a storm drain.

this is an inconsequential distraction compared to almost anything else one could care to mention including other extremely trivial distractions!

Smirkers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chins.