Lana Del Rey

Hoo yeah her best song since the first album IMO.

It's a crazy story because Collins didn't actually sue Radiohead. It involves Collins being the witness to Radiohead intentionally stealing a song from another band — laughing and bragging that they'd get away with it. Collins stayed quiet for a number of years and then finally turned them in — by inviting them to a concert singing Against All Odds, which he dedicated to them during that performance while shining a spotlight on them. Immediately after he finished singing they were all arrested for plagiarism.

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omg so sad i missed this the first time, lols

then again I laugh at any variation of that urban legend

lmao what a fucking hack

well i for one am shocked

hope weyes blood disowns her for this self-indulgent nonsense <<<weyes blood stan twitter has weighed in

viewed more dispassionately it does feel like she felt people hadn't been paying her enough attention, and this is her way of cynically announcing both her new album and her poetry books (lol) while making some sort of stan twitter splash

it worked though - i bumped this thread!

good heel turn imo

congrats on giving her the attention she wanted?

looking forward to the new album since the last one was pretty good, though not the masterpiece it was hailed as by many. not at all looking forward to both the discourse if this is any sign of things to come and more of imago's constant weyes blood comparisons

i had to google i just thought it was the usual bad aesthetic opinions

my opinion on Twitter beef = who gives a fuck?

that letter was stupid.

if she felt the need to defend herself, the move should have been to admit she plays with feminine archetypes in her work in a way that is ambiguous (i.e., doesn't fit a neat notion of empowerment). but then she should ask why it's ok for david lynch and other male artists to do that and not her.

saying there is feminist value in eroticizing helplessness doesn't make any logical sense

I already regret googling this.

when she said her work doesn't try to glamorize anything, but merely gives the stark reality, and the glamor just comes naturally from her and she can't help it, i thought of this:

https://www.theonion.com/the-events-depicted-in-star-wars-actually-happened-to-1819584868

I know I'm a fan but idrg the big deal here

I'm not a fan and idgi either.

oh i'm not rushing to cancel her, just observing what a crass way to self-promote it is

do you think stoking the ire of the "cancel" brigade on twitter was deliberate?

That's just par for the course tho?

i don't really know what she's even responding to, like yeah people were saying that stuff like 8 years ago but i didn't think they still were?

Apparently she's responding to something Thurston Moore wrote, in... 2015? idgie

the big deal for me she seems to say that a number of high profile Black women musicians have an easier time from critics in terms of the content of their songs than her, which to me seems both false and racist

also imagine in 2020 being someone that thinks beyoncé just makes “sexy songs”. moronic

anyway she’s gone straight for the beyhive and the barbz, so good luck to her!!! lol

I would pay double retail price for the next Lana Del Rey album if it meant I never had to read anyone else's thoughts about it, or her. Triple retail if that included her own thoughts about herself.

otm yet you still clicked on this thread just now and so did I.

i don't really know what she's even responding to, like yeah people were saying that stuff like 8 years ago but i didn't think they still were?

enh feel like I've seen slight variants on here a lot more recently

I would pay double retail price for the next Lana Del Rey album if it meant I never had to read anyone else's thoughts about it, or her.

an absolute steal imho

Anyway, I’m more unsettled by the fact that lj has yet to weigh in on the recent KAS debacle. Could it be that he’s concealing his own anti-vaxxer views by proxy?

I googled this because I’m a masochist and I can’t atop laughing at I’m fed up with female writers and alt singers saying that I glamorize abuse when in reality I’m just a glamorous person singing about the realities of what we are all now seeing are very prevalent abusive relationships all over the world.

Also following up

With all of the topics women are finally allowed to explore I just want to say over the last ten years I think it’s pathetic that my minor lyrical exploration detailing my sometimes submissive or passive roles in my relationships has often made people say I’ve set women back hundreds of years.

with:

Let this be clear, I’m not not a feminist

basically I can’t wait for her forthcoming collaboration with Kanye

honestly surprised it hasn't happened yet since kanye is a known fan of hers right?

do you mean the guy she openly disparaged on her last album and in the press

I know quite a few women who have gripes with mainstream feminist discourse. Do you guys not or

oh i'd forgotten about that, really shows how much i pay attention to her lyrics lol

i don't think she's glamourising abuse and the claims she does have always been a mess, but she's doing herself absolutely no favours here

I agree that as a rule musicians shouldn't bother getting into the much of rebutting criticism but the idea she's talking about something not-real is pretty blatantly false

“I’m not not a feminist—but there has to be a place in feminism for women who look and act like me—the kind of woman who says no but men hear yes—the kind of women who are slated mercilessly for being their authentic, delicate selves, the kind of women who get their own stories and voices taken away from them by stronger women or by men who hate women.”

this reads very differently when you go beyond the first five words

there is a tiny kernel of a point (female artists especially are expected to make a didactic, good-role-model music) buried in a lot of bad take

authentic

I really wish this word hadn't been bludgeoned to death.

Opening with “now that all the darkies had hits with their punanis, can’t I just be famous and sad in peace” is not going to put me in a space to give her the benefit of the doubt.

^^^^^^

who are some white women who've had number ones recently besides Ariana

like the optics are clearly bad but what kinda dataset are we working with here

(this is a real question, I don't pay attention to the pop charts and I had to google Doja Cat's ethnicity)

actually it would have been smart to name Eilish cause I don't recall anyone giving her shit for "Bad Guy" (idk maybe they did and I missed The Discourse)

I mostly saw "it's super creepy that her brother wrote that song for her" countered by "they wrote it together and the creepiness is obviously intentional"

that sounds about right

I was just listening to the new 1975 and I was imagining the absolute shitstorm that would befall LDR if she has similarly included a "cheeky" lyric about how she was "too busy" to get involved in politics

Simon doesn't care if you're a black, white, green, purple Doja Cat

moo!