Public Shaming C/D?

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or when they murder their spouses, partners, strangers...

Yerac, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link

I'm saying qualitatively. It's not often a righteous expression of anger. I'm not forgetting the thing where the sum of western history is replete with destruction born of that petulance.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link

when I talk about rage and anger I am thinking of when I tell other women they should be angrier.

i understand -- however
being shamed (see thread title) into demonstrating my anger more publicly so people can see it doesn't seem like a good solution. in fact, it feels divisive (and even a little cruel) considering the effect that anger has on me in particular. i am plenty righteous but expressing it publicly is something i only do irl where people can see and hear my physical self. i don't express anger and rage very much online because it is unproductive and not good for me, like taking a rage pill that gives me a monster hangover.

i am not into public shaming in general tbh

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

Anger is a human emotion that shouldn’t be repressed. It simply is. Violent, abusive expressions of anger are always wrong (this doesn’t include self defense) but that’s not the same thing as anger itself.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link

xpost yeah i think we got sidetracked off the original topic. I was probably speaking more generally. And more about real life because I think having an opinion on the internet as a woman, using your real name, is too dangerous.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

The issue is never people should be “less angry” about injustice or watch their “tone” or try not to alienate people or whatever—that’s not the issue. People should express themselves.

Public shaming is a separate issue. It’s a tactic that sometimes is necessary—cf. metoo many named in #metoo that weren’t otherwise being held to account—but can sometimes also be ugly and gratuitous and just another case of bullying, completely disconnected from the initial motive of fighting inequality. So it’s situational.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link

I think I actually sound a lot angrier in writing than I appear in person. It's probably the same amount of anger, but everyone physically handles it/compartmentalizes a different way.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link

It seems like a lot of ppl come across differently online. Unperson seems to think I am a college freshman.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link

haha! everyone is envisioning you in your dorm trying to make your first meal. yeah, i mean I would say the same things in person but seeing a person and hearing tone makes all the difference.

Yerac, Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link

My big regret with ilx is that my jokes don’t come axross as well as irl. That or irl people laugh politely.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

I mean it's so obvious that it hardly seems worth mentioning and yet also so consistently overlooked that it bears incessant repeating, but so much of the trouble stirred up by contentious online interactions is instantiated by the inability to see other people as like fully-formed people who have a whole existence beyond the typed words you're reading.

Feel like the story of Lindy West confronting her troll may be hella germane wrt this general topic of conversation.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

so is public shaming good or bad?

flopson, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link

we actually got that sorted ages back

its good when you like it and bad when you dont

topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link

i think you mean, 'is it Classic or Dud'

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:52 (five years ago) link


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