Pavement:Classic or Dud

"Loretta's II" = "Elevate Me Later"

Interesting to know they were playing a few CR, CR songs in '93.

That was Gary's last tour, maybe even one of his last shows.

I didn't get to see him play with them until the reunion show in Berkeley... that was really cool, something I thought I'd never get to see.

"sebadoh" came out on the CR deluxe as "all my friends"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JK4p_vnqo

That's a great song! I never made the connection w/the early version on Stuff Up the Cracks.

I'm gonna one up Tyler W (as this is a rare chance to) but "Sebadoh/Helen Stones" first showed up on the Gold Soundz b-side "Exit Theory":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag-C3_xQjW0

The unabridged version came out on the CR Deluxe as "All My Friends"

Wow! I have that 7"... and again, never noticed it was the same song.

I wonder why they originally called it "Sebadoh"... it doesn't really sound like Sebadoh? Or maybe it does a little, I dunno

Because...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3xqJ0O64Aw

xxp haha that's right! i remember hearing that snippet back in the day and thinking it was pretty cool sounding ...

xp -- !! Talk about another connection I would have never made...

holy shit, "All My Friends" is one of my top 5 Pavement songs and I still can't believe they didn't put it on the album
I would KILLLLLLL to hear them play it live

Great rehearsal/performance footage here (w/Gary). Anyone know what song they’re rehearsing?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzTNs67OZEQ

it was listed on the setlist as "punk song".

There’s nothing like that early Pavement sound.

The best. Slanted and Enchanted remains my favorite record I ever bought the year it came out.

https://i.imgur.com/i0pU1FC.png

My dream is for one day my office phone to ring with a local investment broker on the other end. "Holy shit," she'll say before hanging up.

Arkansas Business: for when you need this corporation attitude

Anyone know Marty's connection to the band? Is he just a fan? (Talk about lolrandom...)

Dude looks like a 'head: https://www.arkansasbusiness.com/staff/marty-cook

man i wanna drive to Prairie Grove and high-five Marty in person

Someone send him an email

Please don't. :-)

Marty is very busy. I'll give him all your love at the next staff meeting.

I'll take the bait...

A fan of Social Dist...ortion

Perhaps my favorite song. The girls know it is against Cook Law to speak during Social Distortion

— Marty Cook (@TheCajunSloth) March 15, 2020

Like Malkmus, he has daughters who are into Billie "The Saint" Eillish, compare:

Thanks to my 12yo daughter I not only know who she is, I hear her songs approximately 500 times a day

— Marty Cook (@TheCajunSloth) December 3, 2019

(Kids redacted) pic.twitter.com/wRF6TSLrBn

— Stephen malkmus (@dronecoma) December 11, 2018

That's all I got, I leave further explorations to the more skilled internet detectives.

I WORK WITH THE GUY SO I CAN FIND OUT WHATEVER YOU WANT, PM ME.

Marty, not Malkmus.

Sorry to dox yr coworker, pplains...

That Billie pic reminds me of when Malk said in an interview that Lorde owes him a favor (in return for something unspecified).

Feel like I'm gonna owe Marty a favor.

Marty graduated Mizzou '93? Bet he was at that Big Star tent show.

He wasn't.

(I know this because I WaS ThErE ~!)

Can’t say I’ve seen much Pavement fan art, but hard to imagine it getting much worse than this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/783996565/pavement-inspired-illustration

https://www.etsy.com/listing/778280777/radiohead-inspired-watercolour-paintings?ref=shop_home_active_11&frs=1

Weeshed otm

pavement really does sound like that though

the other ones are pretty funny but I can't tell how much of it is intentional

the bob marley one, ohhhh

Thought this thread revival would be about Scott reviving the band's IG for quarantine-nostalgia:

https://www.instagram.com/pavementband/

sweet account. those 7"s look great

Hey, has anyone ever heard the song “David’s Gone,” which was on a cassette comp called Nostalgic Glimpse of a Victorian Country Childhood?

Around 20 years ago, I was in an eBay bidding war for the tape, and was kind of relieved to lose out at the last second (as the $$ had gotten pretty high). The winner was really cool – he mailed me a CD-R with the track burned as some kind of audio file, but I was never able to get it to play.

...guess not(?) Bueller?

Anyhoo - I never realized there was a diff btw. "Summer Babe" and "Summer Babe (Winter Version)" - or at least I figured the differences were too subtle to notice (and that this was kind of "the joke") - tho I'm listening to them back-to-back now (Drag City comp vs. S&E), and the vocal is definitely flatter on the LP mix. What's the story behind the different mixes, anyway (...and is this something I could figure out for myself if I got off my @ss & flipped back thru the Luxe & Reduxe booklet or the Jovanovic book)?

Hey, I never noticed the keyboard(?) deep in the mix under the "From now on..." section of "Loretta's Scars."(??)

I cannot get over how good this album still sounds.

"David's Gone" was passed around in the very early days of either alt.music.pavement or the pavement.listserv but yeah that's an almost 30yo relic that's essentially a silver jews rarity (dime map quality just less DCB). I can't remember a single thing about the song tbqh.

Thanks for the intel (I wondered if DCB was the titular David).

I've espoused many times about the "lo-fi" tag being misaligned to Slanted & Enchanted, such as here:

C or D : Guided By Voices.

One thing that kind of bothers me about Pavement's "lo-fi" distinction is that they recorded everything up to Crooked Rain at Gary Young's original studio that had a 24-track MCI console which if you are familiar with is approximately the size (132"x41"x38") of ~200 Tascam 424s (18"x14"x4") such as the ones actually used by GBV, Sebadoh, Silver Jews, et.al. Slanted & Enchanted is extremely hi-fi compared to Alistair Galbraith or The Grifters music from the same period.

maybe pix would be better:

https://www.google.com/search?q=mci+jh-636&tbm=isch

vs.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tascam+424&tbm=isch

lo fi by preference vs lo fi by necessity?