The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

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Squashing a lizalfo with a metal shelf was sooo satisfying, I wish I'd put in the effort to master it earlier. I think constantly shattering weapons when using stasis to shift those big black slabs made me kind of hate that ability, and I stupidly never used it in combat.

rob, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

I looooove bombing stuff. I threw a bomb in a lake and a whole bunch of dead fish floated up, which made it easy to catch them.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

oh it was actually ciderpress who posted the tweet I mentioned. Here's the account: https://twitter.com/Juntendo_Sw.

(JF, don't look at that though)

rob, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

I love bombing things so much that I've blown myself up several times already. my fav move is to put down a bomb, taunt the dummies, then try to run away fast enough to blow them up when they reach the bomb. it's worth it!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

bombs are great. I definitely felt like I'd learned the game when I could throw bombs at things nearby but still the right distance to not blow myself up

rob, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

So I've encountered two of these rock monsters so far. Are they even worth fighting? They seem like a pain in the ass.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link

not really unless you want to

the game's open ended for a reason, do the things you enjoy and ignore the pains in the asses

ciderpress, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link

they're eventually quite fun to fight (except the icy versions)

||||||||, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link

early on they're probably not worth it for weapon breaking reasons alone

rob, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:37 (five years ago) link

awww, i think rock monsters are fun, just equip a hammer-type weapon and hold down the button while pounding on them

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link

i also love picking up the little rock monsters and throwing them

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link

Theres been a hilarious running meme on reddit where people are taking one of those metal moveable bookcases from Hyrule castle and putting them in all kinds of ridiculous places.

And a guy doing the whole game *without using the paraglider* which is fucking insane.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 03:05 (five years ago) link

that is insane!

i wonder how possible it is to play without using melee or range weapons, using only the abilities?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 03:41 (five years ago) link

how do you get off the plateau without taking fall damage? that seems like the only place where you Need the glider

ciderpress, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link

I guess you could climb down if you had enough stamina boosters?

rob, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link

why would you want to? it's like the guy who does YouTube videos of how long it takes to walk or sail over vast video game environments. takes hours and hours and hours.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:33 (five years ago) link

finally DL'd this after replacing my switch. i don't think i was THAT far into it before, having only taking down one of the...big things? slightly annoyed to be starting from scratch, but also it's nice to feel like i know what i'm doing and can move a lot more quickly. like, i think i spent a LOT of time on the plateau the first time around and this time i was outta there asap

gbx, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

OK, got myself a horse, got myself some inventory expansion, been fighting and/or avoiding some stuff, been doing some shrines. My takeaway so far is ... it's kind of boring, but not necessarily in a bad way.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

Which is to say, it seems impeccably designed to be exactly as boring as it is. It's a very specific kind of boring that, I should stress, I am enjoying. But it's like a kid version of Dark Souls, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

It’s the right level of boring for me, i.e. it’s challenging but doesn’t make me feel twitchy and exhausted.

It’s such a beautiful world, just exploring it for the first time, or finding new corners when you think you’ve seen everything - that’s the opposite of boring for me. It can be peaceful, but I’ve never found it dull. It really hits a sweet spot in “doing what I like about games and not doing what I don’t like” in a way no other game has (or will, probably).

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 12:31 (five years ago) link

I did get a bit bored after completing 100+ shrines and all the beasts, just farting around till I saw Ganon. But I think that boredom was more like anxiety and melancholy that I’d seen more of the game than it had left to show me.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 12:35 (five years ago) link

yeah the world is like a warm bath for me

at first I thought it was too empty but the expanses really underscore the majesty of the various towns, encounters and set pieces dotted round the world

||||||||, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link

Oh, there's tons of stuff to see and do. But I'm kind of bored at the way you have to do it. Climbing, walking, jogging for like 3 seconds at a time, even gliding and horse riding. I know I'll build up my stamina and inventory and whatnot, but right now it all takes forever. And then talking with everyone and interacting with everything, that's kind of exhausting as well, since I don't want to miss something or someone important. OK, need to talk to this guy! Oh, he's just selling meat. Alright, gonna talk to this person! Oh, just complaining about the weather. Etc. Again, perfectly designed world, but a bit of cognitive dissonance balancing the broader apocalyptic OMG you have to save me quest and everyone and everything just chilling. I kind of wish there was a bit more pressure to hurry up! Even the monsters are often singing and dancing or sleeping. Their AI is pretty generous with letting you get away, too. I suppose this makes it fun to play in short bursts, but at that rate it would take months to finish.

So is the Witcher 3 kind of like this?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:36 (five years ago) link

I was a bit slow to realise you could make your own fires to sleep through the night, and didn't have to find a pre-existing fireplace. If you're not doing that, it might help?

I also, er, didn't realise for ages that climbing up the towers unlocked the map. So I found my way to the Rito divine beast just by winging it, and the journey felt really epic.

But there's a midpoint (somewhere between the first and third shrines) when you still die a lot but you don't feel overpowered. After my 4th beast I was basically invincible.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link

xp Witcher 3 is a completely different type of game, it's no more similar to this game than spider-man is

ciderpress, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

Oh, I thought it was another open world wander/ride around on a big quest while mixing potions and helping people on side quests sort of thing. Maybe that's all games of this ilk.

I think I knew you could make your own fire in Breath, but I think I only have one flint, and so far it hasn't been hard to find fires (or survive the night), and besides, everything fucking breaks after three uses! Like, I got a sledgehammer so thought, cool, I can use it to smash clearly meant to be smashed rocks, and yeah, there was a gem or something inside, but then my hammer broke and now I don't have a hammer.

What do you mean, climbing the towers unlocks the map? You mean if you spy something from a high vantage it automatically gets added to the map? I haven't gotten to a beast yet because I think I've still been goofing around with the basics. I just got to that first village.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

you can bomb those rocks, btw

when you climb a tower and put your slate on the dais thing, it fills in that area of the map for you all at once (there is no other way to open the map)

rob, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

oh, I am thinking of different towers, just the ones with a treasure chest on top.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

have been reading this thread, nodding my head excitedly, saying "HE'S DOING IT. HE's ACTUALLY DOING IT." like Joe Lo Truglio in Wet Hot American Summer

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link

Map towers = sheikah towers ie:
https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/thumb/2/27/BotW_Great_Plateau_Tower.png/1200px-BotW_Great_Plateau_Tower.png

There are dozens of them and some are quite hard to get up! And if you think the games a bit dull/easy I'm thinking you havent yet encountered any Guardians or Lynels, heh you're in for a treat there.

It’s the right level of boring for me, i.e. it’s challenging but doesn’t make me feel twitchy and exhausted.

I realised the same when I went back and got a long way into WW the last few weeks. It was making me really stressed out!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link

yeah - lynels are genuinely tough, even into the late game due to the scaling of the various different lynel types (red/ blue/ white/ silver)

still can't reliably beat them

guardians are a nice fair challenge. so satisfying parrying their eye beam back at them

||||||||, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't lose to lynels if I ate some 3x defense food, but boy would those fights be sloppy. If I ever play this again I plan to master using stasis on those assholes

rob, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

I agree w arlo (!) re weapon durability
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCMDG51cf5w

||||||||, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

I never said it was too easy, just a bit dull how much time is spent traveling and climbing and doing mundane stuff, like cooking and foraging. Because the handful of bigger enemies I've encountered early on have already been a massive pain in the ass. Rock monster: had to run away after doing minimal damage that destroyed all my weapons. Training robot spider in the shrine near the first town: destroyed all my weapons after doing minimum damage. Bigger monsters, the first biped foes I've encountered after the Bogpins or whatever: super fast and take a lot of damage. And Now I have little but a bunch of clubs and rakes and shit to fight with (plus bombs and bows) so just have to avoid everything. I hope coming across weapons starts becoming more common, because so far they are few and far between, and nothing has been tough enough to survive more than a couple of modest fights. I figure eventually the battle system will become second nature, but I'm hoping that comes sooner rather than later. I also hope I stop encountering people who trigger epic monologues about who I am and where I cam from and what I'm supposed to be doing. I get it, dude. I'm here to rescue the princess and save the kingdom.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

the monologues with their voice acting are the worst part of the game. you are actually there to wander around before dying in new, embarrassing ways.

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link

Josh in Faron Tower will be a fun post

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

All the frustrations Josh describes are things I found super fun.

My favourite (sort of) humiliating death was at the hands of angry lady with the garden maze

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 31 January 2019 00:48 (five years ago) link

I am super early in the game, but unlike Dark Souls I do not really feel like I am making *progress.* But I'll stick with it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:12 (five years ago) link

most of the 'progress' is exploring all of the map and completing shrines

ciderpress, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:17 (five years ago) link

how do you get off the plateau without taking fall damage? that seems like the only place where you Need the glider

― ciderpress, Tuesday, January 29, 2019 10:30 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's a #swag move that looks like this you can do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=QQbKpdOGWQk

Evan, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:20 (five years ago) link

zelda is a vision of a world beyond progress. it is a story of how one athletic boy's search for his missing shirt quickly led to a revelation of secret universal cycles of love and evil he never could have conceived.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link

I think i saw a pornhub video with that same description

Evan, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:27 (five years ago) link

It is about harvesting and eating premium cuts of meat while you cut back irl.

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:46 (five years ago) link

It’s about wandering through green alpine fields while it’s -1000° outside

rob, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:48 (five years ago) link

It’s a game about climbing

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 31 January 2019 02:56 (five years ago) link

the same tree, over and over again

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 31 January 2019 03:08 (five years ago) link

It's about finding the perfect outfit

fgti's romance (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 31 January 2019 03:31 (five years ago) link

now that I am finally playing the game y'all are making me want to play it less.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 January 2019 04:00 (five years ago) link

Seems inevitable really

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 31 January 2019 04:17 (five years ago) link

yes, play less. but then also more by doing so. zelda is like jazz.

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 31 January 2019 04:46 (five years ago) link


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