ILM’s Top 77 Tracks of 2018

lol yeah this is gonna be the 4th year in the row where either 0 or 1 of my song choices make it :)

just because it's a particularly inspired image, i am compelled to shout out Moka again for the consistently excellent graphics

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses)

:) thank you

It will make it a lot harder for people like me, who can't rely on anyone else to nominate things they like.
― emil.y, Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:33 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think you have a different problem than vote-splitting.

Do ya?

kudos again to the images moka, fantastic work

let a thousand flowers bloom

I think you have a different problem than vote-splitting.

― Nabozo, Tuesday, January 29, 2019 8:39 PM (thirteen minutes ago)

I mean, yeah, it is tough having better taste than the majority of ilx0rs, but why should I be punished for that?

Nominations threads will come in handy when it is time for the cull.xp

lol

gotta say, while there was more stuff i liked today, there was also more stuff i outright disliked. naming no names here but sheesh isn't it wonderful how diverse all our tastes are

Even in that context it makes sense: there’s only 77 left when everything is said and done.

xps

name names, vague passive-aggression doesn't really add to discussion xp

Sund4r also otm

I know I nominated Baby Shark but promise I didn't actually vote for it, pls don't cull me I have a wife two kids and a podcast to support.

podcasters are first against the wall iirc

sweet

I also liked y'day's lineup more than today's, just personal taste...

idk that my taste really adds to the conversation but there was a lot that failed to move me today. everything i liked i had already heard and p much everything i hadn't heard was rly boring to me. as i say, diff't strokes. all good. my music taste is completely fucked-up on instant melodic gratification and overstimulated progge antics so i find a lot of things boring that might be accurately described by others as 'a jam'

mind you wtf were the kim petras and autechre songs doing here lol

might end up using this year's results as an excuse to kickstart an actual poll on instituting a one-track-per-artist limit as opposed to just whining about it again

― resident hack (Simon H.)

I think I also chipped in a similar idea in some thread I don’t remember. The point was to get 77 different main artists on the countdown (feature credits get a pass) and only the most voted song per artist makes it, you can still vote for whichever song of the artist you like but only one gets represented... This to get a more varied poll.

So per example in 2014, a year with 5 Taylor Swift singles in the top 77 you get:

6. TAYLOR SWIFT - Style (620 points, 19 votes)

And maybe either post the real top 77 at the end in text form with repeat artists as it is right now or if you want to discuss all songs on the top 77 in the moment add them as a secondary info inside the main winner from the artist as a mini ranking of their songs inside the top 77 like say:

6. TAYLOR SWIFT - Style (620 points, 19 votes)
- Blank Space (515 points, 15 votes)
- Out of the Woods (469 points, 12 votes)
- Shake it Off (345 points, 11 votes)
- Bad Blood (322 points, 8 votes

Something like that...

I didn't vote but I've been listening to the playlist; I hope everyone who voted for Die Wilde Jagd also checked out FACS last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Km1_Bd017Q

Otherwise you have to make the cut since the nom phase and that just seems like too much trouble. I’d leave the current system as is and just present the results differently...

if you want 77 artists on a poll, then like why not just... nominate/vote for artist(s) of the year

I also think that artificially culling results so you limit each artist to one appearance undermines the entire idea of doing a poll and at that point we should just pick a random poster to curate a listening experience and deem that the best-of list instead of asking everyone to contribute time and energy into deciding what their favorite songs of the year were and then jettisoning 30% of them because a couple of well-known/well-loved artists released a bunch of stuff that the voters like.

i strongly dislike 1 track per artist limit. feel like there has to be a more nuanced solution if it's even a problem

FACS was pretty cool!

DJP otm

xxp I agree; it sounds more "varied," but also less representative and reflective of heavy-hitting artists' impact that year. If there had been a poll using that system in 1984 (for example), only one track from Purple Rain would have been allowed to appear? Seems kind of weird.

suggestion for the poll: my mixtape should be #1 this year bc its hot fire

lmao I always forget how attached people are to The Purity Of The Stats. more artists is just more fun imho

It's not The Purity Of The Stats so much as it is Why Bother Having A Poll If You're Going To Fuck With The Results To Make It Fit What You Want It To Look Like Anyway

because repeats are boring

that said, I do not expect this measure to pass

The #77 track this year received 6 votes; presumably, if you started culling repeats, tracks would be entering the bottom of the countdown that only got a few votes each (or there may even need to be a tiebreaker btw. a bunch of single-vote tracks)...

...which is fine if it's less boring, but then it's not really serving the purpose of a consensus poll(?)

Hahaha I mean the stats don’t change, in my proposed system the stats would remain... it just starts in whichever number the repear artists pushed down the number so let’s assume the only repear artist for 2014 was Taylor Swift.

We start in number 81, the TS songs with their actual rankings wont appear until the highest TS song appears. Like so:

6. TAYLOR SWIFT - Style (620 points, 19 votes)
- 10. Blank Space (515 points, 15 votes)
- 12. Out of the Woods (469 points, 12 votes)
- 23. Shake it Off (345 points, 11 votes)
- 42. Bad Blood (322 points, 8 votes)

So in the actual results 43 jumps to 41 and you’re left guessing which artist and song it is until their song with most points appear. When the TS extravaganza appears then you get to talk about how much you love her and those 5 songs in the meantime you get 4 songs outside the top 77 to discuss.. yay!

I mean for me it sounds more fun because I don’t want to discuss TS 5 diferrent times in a poll and we get to hear and discuss songs outside the top 77. I know I can listen to songs 81-78 when the poll’s over but I like reading the passionate hate they inspire in here too.

On the other hand if it ain’t broke don’t fix it I guess.

and we get to hear and discuss songs outside the top 77

But you can do that all year long on here! Or the nomination thread...

I feel like starting this poll now just so we can take this discussion there resume talking about the actual rollout here, I feel bad

i mean, i did tbf cut tropical fuck storm

Aw man you were my only hope RIP "Tyres"

we should challenge each other to diversify our tastes, rather than artificially engineer a more diverse list. attack the cause, not the effect

what if nominations started in feb 2019 and ran until jan 2020 and we just started the spotify list then and it slowly grew all year? i'd prob end up "diversifying my tastes" if i had that list instead of the little bubble i made for myself for the 11 months of the year it's not top 77 time

and yes i am aware of the irony of me calling that "diversifying my tastes" but you know what i mean

forks is doing this: Listening to ILX Listen: 2019

Aw man you were my only hope RIP "Tyres"

― slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:44 (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wasn't voting for that one anyway!

xp i was gonna say! jump in if you wanna! I'll post a different sort of thread in February to make it a bit more clear, but at the moment I have a playlist with 200 songs discussed across all the genre threads... AND you will be happy to hear that I have a self-imposed "two-song-max-per-artist" limit.

if you wanna see what ILX is talking about in January, here it is:
http://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/3gfEiJs2o4shZtC6vJEFhY

It's not The Purity Of The Stats so much as it is Why Bother Having A Poll If You're Going To Fuck With The Results To Make It Fit What You Want It To Look Like Anyway

We already fuck with the results by having everyone cram the nominations instead of voting for what they actually listened to throughout the year.

sick forks! i'll try 2 fuck with this this year (altho it sounds overwhelming if it's just everything that everyone just mentions in all of the threads... curious to see how long the list gets)

We already fuck with the results by having everyone cram the nominations instead of voting for what they actually listened to throughout the year.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:58 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think there's a happy medium

my happy medium is attempting to listen to everything before voting

each to their own

# of artists represented in the top 77 per year (not including featured credits)

2017: 70
2016: 62
2016: 61
2015: 61
2014: 63

Doesn't seem like a huge issue, tbh

(Oops, the last three years should be 2015, 2014, and 2013, obv.)