The Beatles' final gig, on the rooftop at Apple Corps, January 30th 1969.

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I have the full 35mm print which I downloaded from t0rrents, this was taken from the BBC broadcast of the film in 1982.

uh...

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link

Oh, does that not make sense then? idk, I'm just copying what is on the torrent site. As I understand it, it just means that I have a 1st gen copy from the BBC broadcast.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link

The full detailed explanation of which version is which, is here
http://wogew.blogspot.com/

Some highlights

1982: BBC2 shows Let It Be for the fourth and last time on May 8. 16mm version, mono.
1992: Original 16mm film restored by Ron Furmanek, remastered sound, stereo when available.
1997: VCI (UK) announces plans to release the 1992 restoration of the film on VHS. It doesn't happen.
2003: Original 16mm film plus outtakes restored by Bob Smeaton.
2003: Movie director Lindsay-Hogg says 2 DVDs with the film and outtakes ready for 2004.
2011: Original film and outtakes re-transferred again in higher resolution for future release.
2015: The last 34 minutes of Furmanek's unpublished 1992 restoration uploaded on YouTube
2015: Apple releases a collection of The Beatles' promotional films on Blu-ray and DVD. The material from "Let It Be" looks unrestored. This triggers speculation that Apple saves the restored version for a later stand-alone release.

piscesx, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:41 (five years ago) link

Man, that final Beatles gig really was up there

StanM, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link

They should transfer the whole thing right off a roof

maffew12, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

Yeah, a 35mm print would be five or so individual reels of physical film in cans, weighing about 30kilos, that you would need two sound-insulated projectors and a theatre to watch. You definitely did not download that from a torrent.

It’s also insanely unlikely that the BBC were even TXing off a 35mm print. Your “first gen” copy is at best: 35mm -> telecined to 1” videotape -> broadcast reduced to 625 lines -> now in mono, not stereo -> recorded on home Betamax at 250 lines (or 240 for VHS) -> never ever played back by the user even once, for decades, until they converted it to digital -> probably also compressed for torrenting.

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

xposts obv, typing with one thumb while a cat sleeps on my other arm

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

Tell that cat to move over. Twice, if necessary.

maffew12, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

leave my kitten alone

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

i'm not a beatles expert but the film has never been shown in its originally filmed (16mm) aspect ratio, right? it was cropped for 35mm and then cropped further from the 35mm for 4:3 broadcasts?

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link

i might be interested in peter jackson's four-hour epic take on the story if he gets howard shore to record a ponderous and heavy-handed score, preferably replacing the shit the beatles actually played during these sessions

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link

Lord of the Ringos

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link

ugh Huffpost made same pun

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link

I assumed the broadcast was 4:3, but didn’t mention cropping bcz I also strongly suspected it was from 16mm, which pisces’ list does indicate

but I also have no idea if the original edit was done at widescreen, or on 16mm elements & then recomposited for theatrical

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

finally someone is using their clout to let the world know about the beatles

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link

Used to be, you'd have to go to a pizza place to hear them.

peace, man, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

Apparently there was some Beatles tribute band recreating this just across the road from where I work, at lunch time.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link

In Liverpool or London? There was supposedly something in Liverpool One.

Some wag over on the Hoffman forums suggests a new happier Let It Be reminds them of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os6raCCmAFk

piscesx, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

... sorry, London, on the roof of St Pancras Station, though I can't see any mention of it anywhere.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

It's crazy to me that the Simpsons barbershop quartet episode aired 24 years after the Beatles' rooftop gig, but it'll have aired 26 years ago this year.

Sam Weller, Friday, 1 February 2019 09:37 (five years ago) link

Yeah that's a pretty crazy stat, that Simpsons ep feels like last week.

Interesting tidbit from Mark Lewisohn about the Twickenham footage.

@TheBeatles did it and now I’ve done it. An exhausting but exhilarating month’s work comes to an end. Finally I know how it was – and how I’ve been wrong in all my past writings. We’ve ALL had it wrong. Roll on Peter Jackson’s film and my Volume 3. #Twickenham #SavileRow #Jan69 pic.twitter.com/XhX2DrtCUU

— Mark Lewisohn (@marklewisohn) January 31, 2019

piscesx, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link

just put out Vol 2 already!

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

🎥 Peter Jackson has released an exclusive sneak peek of his upcoming documentary “@TheBeatles: Get Back” #TheBeatlesGetBack will open August 2021 with never seen before footage of the band during the recording sessions of ‘Let it Be’ in 1969! pic.twitter.com/nWwzeuHE8U

— sir paul mccartney 🎲 (@Page_SirPaul) December 21, 2020

budo jeru, Monday, 21 December 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link

The editing might overdo the "it was actually a happy time" but it's a nice video (if I mute it) and it LOOKS great.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

Linda and Yoko just chattin’! Hard to believe this has all just been sat on a shelf for so long. Looks great.

piscesx, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

eheh yeah, and Yoko SMILING during these sessions !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 21 December 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

omg that cut straight thru my cynicism

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

Looks good, but I really hope the film includes the lengthy feedback excursion, accompanied by Yoko, that began after George left in a huff.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

That McCartney power stance at the start of "Get Back" is quite something.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

Marty Dibergi looking good!

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link

omg that cut straight thru my cynicism

Wow. Otm.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 December 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

I could watch a full 36-hours of this stuff. Looks amazing. Mind you, I've always kind of been on Yoko's side and everything, but it is really fucking weird how she's just sitting there all the time. I always imagined that she was just watching in the control room or something - didn't realise she was literally on a chair at John's elbow while the band played.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

John and Paul looking genuinely fond of each other! George smiling! A lot!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

all done with CG knowing Jackson

Number None, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

I often grow weary of the large-looming Beatles legend, so it’s nice to short circuit all that and just watch them in action.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

all done with CG knowing Jackson

― Number None

They haven't inserted the cave trolls yet.

chap, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

This looks very enjoyable, though I don't really care about that album - if it was Abbey Road, on the other hand...

chap, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

i mean, there are prob some abbey road tracks in the mix. "maxwell's silver hammer" and "octopus' garden" promintently featured in the let it be movie (maybe this is bad news for some people)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

I always imagined that she was just watching in the control room or something - didn't realise she was literally on a chair at John's elbow while the band played.

And when she was recovering from a car accident, her hospital bed was brought into the studio during the Abbey Road sessions.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

though now i'm waiting for some beatlehead itt to inform me those were the only abbey road tracks in the mix during the get back project, i don't actually know xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

The Let It Be sessions basically mutated into the Abbey Road sessions, to an extent.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

echoing AlXTC, does make it seem a bit like the movie is going to be "The Making of Get Back: the Beatles' Happiest Most Wonderful Time" but still, always thrilled to see good quality footage of the excellent band the Beatles playing their very very good music.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

xxp

Some of the anecdotes in Craig Brown's 150 Glimpses of The Beatles paint Yoko in somewhat creepy, stalker-ish light. Tony Bramwell describes her as a "little black-clad figure" who would show up uninvited at Kenwood throughout 1967 asking for John. After Cynthia would turn her away, Yoko would seem to be leaving. But hours later Cynthia would look again and Yoko would still be at the end of the drive staring longingly at the house. *queue Hammer soundtrack*

Darin, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

Well yeah that sounds like someone in love, to me.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

The teaser was fun. It's telling that most of the fun footage comes from the Apple Studio sessions. If you listen only to the Twickenham sessions, everything negative about the Get Back sessions seems to be true, but the change in scenery helped immensely - getting the hell of the Twickenham was the first thing they agreed on when they got their shit back together.

birdistheword, Monday, 21 December 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

Right. Maybe that's why he went through all those contortions- not a trailer, not an excerpt, etc.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 December 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

God, that green suit of Ringo's at 5:26..."If I had a million dollars (if I had a million dollars), well I'd buy you a green suit (but not a real green suit, that's cruel)"--actually, it looks pretty great.

clemenza, Monday, 21 December 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

Billy Preston is a very suave presence.

chap, Monday, 21 December 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

Love Ringo's red polka dot shirt, too!

Darin, Monday, 21 December 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

John and Paul are kind of a classic duo consisting of one person who revels in being a confrontational jerk but who is also charming and amusing much of the time, and another person who wants to be seen as nice or "nice" but is all too often overbearing, manipulative insufferable, etc./PopPsych101

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

lol you wanna George staring daggers in the modern era? Check out his response to Paul's request (order?) to play "Blue Moon of Kentucky" ("The short version"). Paul's relentless cuteness gets to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wrgrm1eabI

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

Yeah, was gonna mention that one

Mark G, Thursday, 24 December 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

I posted this in another Beatles thread, but whenever Paul starts talking during those group interviews in Anthology, George gets this look on his face like, “Ugh, this fucking guy.” If a camera or mic was on Paul, his Performing Persona took over, which George had no use for: “I’ve known you since you were 14, and I can tell when you’re bullshitting.”

One thing I love about that clip, though, is that they’re all, George included, enjoying it, but you get the sense that George just wants to hang out and play without the cameras, and without it being THE REUNITED BEATLES. He might’ve had a blast just swapping tunes and stories without the pressure of it being a heavy Beatle moment.

(Also, when Ringo goes into half time on “Raunchy,” it suddenly sounds more Beatle-y.)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 December 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link

Christ the Anthology era sucked so hard.

piscesx, Thursday, 24 December 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

Christ: the Anthology <---- the perfect Christmas gift

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 December 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

Too bad Neil Innes and Eric Idle had a falling out before they finished it.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

I heard somewhere, maybe from my Beatles nut friend, that the Anthology in the end was designed to be an easy, equitable way to get a heap of money to "the principals" (as I think they were collectively termed). So it served its purpose by, say, making Pete Best a millionaire.

Have I related, or posted anywhere, about the Beatles reunion story I read via the Edge's storied guitar tech, Dallas Schoo? This is the key bit:

There was the time in 1995 when Steve Miller invited him to his home studio in Idaho to service his guitar collection. Miller then warned him: He had some people coming to use his studio and Schoo had to promise to not freak out. Schoo rolled his eyes; he had seen it all.

Two days later, a fleet of SUVs pulled up and out get Paul and Linda McCartney, Ringo Starr and Barbara Bach, George and Olivia Harrison, and Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick. They were there to mix “Free As A Bird,” the final new Beatles music that was made using a John Lennon demo tape of an unrecorded song, and they asked Schoo to maintain their guitars.

Schoo freaked out.

At one point, McCartney leaned over to Schoo during a break and struck up a conversation.

“So you’re with that U2?”

“Yes, yes, sir, I am.”

“That’s meant to be a big deal, isn’t it?”

“Yeah.”

“But they didn’t change the world did they?”

Schoo erupts in laughter. “Then he looked at Harrison and said, ‘If it wasn’t for us, you’d still be walking around in Buddy Holly glasses.’ That story I’ve taken all over the world, man, and Paul and I have remained friends to this day.”

The bonus story I heard came from my friend's cousin, an esteemed producer in Nashville. Apparently he was in a session when he got a whispered furtive phone call from Dallas.

"Hey, man, it's Dallas. Do you hear this?" He holds up the phone to let him hear muffled music. "That's the fuckin' Beatles, man!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 December 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

Sorry, your story is better.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

it's too bad paul didn't finish by excoriating chris for the lame and deeply unfunny sin of reading off of CUE CARDS

budo jeru, Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

Heh, is that a reference to Zappa? #OneThread

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

ja

budo jeru, Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

Having been thru a separation, if someone had asked me how to edit footage of the last year of my marriage while it was ending I would have chosen the material which showed the reasons for separation. As a grieving and justification process.

yeah but they did that already. in another fifty-one years, you might be ready to look at some photos of the kinder moments in your latter times.

I heard somewhere, maybe from my Beatles nut friend, that the Anthology in the end was designed to be an easy, equitable way to get a heap of money to "the principals" (as I think they were collectively termed). So it served its purpose by, say, making Pete Best a millionaire.

George was open about doing the Anthology stuff because his manager had stolen all his money via HandMade, and fucked off to an island. (The year of Anthology, Harrison sued O'Brien for £16 million, only won £6.7 million, but continued to actually lose more money suing him in bankruptcy court.)

huge rant (sic), Thursday, 24 December 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

yeah but they did that already. in another fifty-one years, you might be ready to look at some photos of the kinder moments in your latter times.
For sure, which is why I offered it to explain the difference between LiB and this film.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 24 December 2020 04:32 (three years ago) link

ah!

huge rant (sic), Thursday, 24 December 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link


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