doesn't even have an electric jet project in the works smdh
― mh, Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
just think, if he'd flown that jet 150,000 miles into space he'd be 0.001% of the distance to mars by now
― maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link
'The Long View' on Radio 4 is this programme that compares an historical event or figure with one from the present day and seeks to point out how similar they are. This week was isambard kingdom brunel and elon musk, the first 3 mins was some railway fellow giving the background of brunel and what an innovative engineer he was, his background on the railways and the idea of an atmospheric railway and what a pioneer he was etc. Then the presenter lists elon musk's accomplishments paypal etc then goes something like "so isambard kingdom brunel giant of the railways and cutting edge engineer back then and elon musk groundbreaking engineer now" only for the technology contributor also on the program to cut in with "elon musk isn't an engineer, he left after 2 days of classes" lol
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link
Well.....
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1PY00J?__twitter_impression=true
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link
oh, alllisonmy twitter impression = true
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:06 (five years ago) link
Apparently he arrived in Ostend (belgium). An acquaintance's brother is working for Tesla here in Belgium.
― nathom, Saturday, 9 February 2019 07:14 (five years ago) link
if you read this thread you probably already read matt levine, but today's is good on musk
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-02-20/elon-musk-can-t-help-himself
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link
He’s also claiming (in Wired) that they will have FULL self-driving cars by the end of 2020, where the driver could take a nap while the car drives the whole trip.
― DJI, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
elom nusk
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link
lol
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link
joer ogan
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:03 (five years ago) link
making outlandish claims that never prove to be correct and fabulous promises he never keeps are almost his entire public relations playbook
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:14 (five years ago) link
Promise kept: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/28/18245165/tesla-model-3-price-lower-cost-elon-musk-news
― DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link
well... i mean the promise hasnt been kept until the cars have actually been delivered. at the moment this is just another announcement.
― just sayin, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link
he also accepted pre-orders for the self-driving option... which hasnt happened
I can't figure out who does more goalpost-moving, Musk, or the people in this thread.
― DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:51 (five years ago) link
your blind uncritical loyalty is far more offensive, you really should just read through this thread again if you're having trouble understanding why so many people hate him
― sold out in presale (sleeve), Friday, 1 March 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link
lol "blind uncritical loyalty"
― DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 01:05 (five years ago) link
i hate him cause hes bad but hes also very stupid
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link
DJI you're not exactly uncritical, no. but your posts itt are kinda odd, like you've listed things that should be heinous dealbreakers ("I know he's a union-buster" or whatever) but they then don't... break the deal. like is there nobody else working on solar stuff to champion, instead of the guy where that's like the one tiny crumb of goodness to weigh against all the shit? i admit tho that partly this is coming from the internet being so full of uncritical musk stans who say a lot of similar things and maybe my radar is extra sensitive, idk
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 March 2019 02:52 (five years ago) link
guy literally thinks going to mars is good when it so obviously sucks shit
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 02:53 (five years ago) link
We can go to mars in like seven hundred years it’ll still be there
― moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link
the guy launched his car into space, like how dumb is that
― Clay, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link
He only does dumb things, and does them in the most obnoxious way.
― moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:13 (five years ago) link
confusing science fiction for science is thing that annoys me about nerds
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:14 (five years ago) link
the whole thing of canonizing the underdog tesla too, also while actually behaving like edison
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:16 (five years ago) link
like grow the f up jeez
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:17 (five years ago) link
we won't, tbf
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link
thinking abt the time he cried on national tv cause the government said he cldnt post lies about him company anymore lmfao incredible
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 03:34 (five years ago) link
never go to mars mars is bad
my car is in the shop after a dude hit it earlier this week and it’s paid off
should I buy the new tesla so we could have a tesla guy on the thread
― mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link
when I built a new garage by my house I had it wired so I could put an electric car charger (or arc welder) in it fwiw so my infrastructure is ready
― mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link
Get an electric car made by a company that knows how to build cars imo
― moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 05:03 (five years ago) link
pretty sure in current weather my battery life would be faring insanely poorly
― mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link
when I built a new garage by my house I had it wired so I could put an electric car charger (or arc welder) in it fwiw so my infrastructure is ready― mh, Friday, March 1, 2019 4:38 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― mh, Friday, March 1, 2019 4:38 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
So you could use an electric kettle in your garage?
― S-, Friday, 1 March 2019 07:41 (five years ago) link
― lag∞n
go to barsoom instead
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 1 March 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
go to.....heck
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 15:02 (five years ago) link
xxp a real european 220v one? maybe!
― mh, Friday, 1 March 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link
x-post to JiC
Yeah Josh - you're right. There is enough bad about Musk that I guess he's inexcusable? I guess I'm (somewhat) giving him a pass because I like that he has taken on bigger, more pressing problems than just the typical amass-enough-MAUs-to-get-bought-by-Google "entrepreneurs," or the lazy, rent-seeking behavior of the dinosaur capitalists.
Electric cars, self-driving cars, low-cost space travel, solar tiles - I really like all of these ideas. And while you can debate hype vs. reality, I don't think you can just wave off all that he and his companies have done in those domains. Sure he's almost always late, but after spending a long time in tech, I think that overpromising is often a successful tactic used to get things done as quickly as possible, even if it drives observers (and engineering teams) crazy in the short-term.
― DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link
the planet is is dying and suburbia is causing a health crisis in the meantime. and a lot of it is on cars. electric cars and self-driving cars are bad ideas.
they're also not ambitious. they're "what if cars, but electric" or "what if cars, but you don't hold the steering wheel". they're the ideas you come up with if you take the "snakes on a plane" approach to movie ideation and apply it to physical infrastructure.
so just to be clear: i'm not waving off his accomplishments. i'm saying they are bad.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
driverless cars just equals a whole lot more unemployed truckers and farm workers right?
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 March 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
they're the ideas you come up with if you take the "snakes on a plane" approach to movie ideation and apply it to physical infrastructure.
otm. succinct. witty, too. should be plastered all across the internet.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 March 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
@caekI hear where you're coming from that you feel that maybe driverless cars and electric cars are "bad" ideas, but I guess I disagree. I mean, they aren't the "best" ideas from a societal standpoint (I guess you'd favor putting more effort into mass transit, or no-transit solutions, which I also agree with), but that doesn't make them bad, imo.
However, to say that his ideas aren't ambitious is ridiculous. I mean, starting a car company when there hasn't been a new successful car company in the US since Jeep? Starting a rocket company? Trying to get cars to drive themselves? Those are ambitious ideas.
And to Dr. C - My end goal for technology/AI/automation is that nobody has to work. THAT is an ambitious idea. Getting to that state without mass disruption is the hard part, but I still think it's the goal.
― DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
that's a cool idea but we need some intermediary steps. the history of automation to date has often been flanked with that hope and in general capital has elected to keep the surplus to itself, with occasional pseudo-exceptions e.g. where very well-organized (and nonradical) unions negotiated final bail-out packages so that existing members would be compensated while their type of work was eliminated.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 March 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link
yeah i'm being hyperbolic about the no ambition stuff. but it's easy be ambitious when you're a billionaire so i grant him less credit.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link
"more cars" is ipso facto a bad idea from a societal point of view.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link
if Elon Musk were ambitious he'd spend his money lobbying to ban cars.
― moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link
not to mention they are still a very long away from actually working except in the most idealized conditions, AFAICT
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
the most ambitious thing any california billionaire could do is bankroll a ballot measure to repeal proposition 13.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link
Less self driving more self guillotining
― A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link