ILM Top 77 Tracks of 2018 Poll Afterparty: Ballots, Recrimination, Statistics and Damned Lies

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kind of side-eyeing "Spanish Language" as a genre, but then I organize my music geographically so...

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

well, it was either that, "Latin," or "Global" and then fold in the K-Pop and Afropop and none of those things felt appropriate. I suppose I coulda gone with "Flamenco" but then that's just Rosalía and nothing else!
I hear you though. I could use better definitions when it comes to some of this stuff.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link

Could you post my ballot too I honesty don’t remember

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link

Actually it was interesting to run through the list and think about which other languages were represented. I miss, but am too lazy to reproduce, lex's geographic breakdown that he'd always have ready right at the end

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link

i seem to recall him popping up last year JUST to deliver that list so perhaps we'll get a late xmas gift

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 00:33 (five years ago) link

He didn't participate in the 2017 threads except for that, but I think he at least voted. Did anyone get him to vote in 2018?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:35 (five years ago) link

There's more rock/indie songs in there than any other genre? YOU FILTHY ROCKISTS

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 1 February 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link

I think this was mine:

Django Django – Champagne
Cavern of Anti-Matter - Malfunction
The Orb - Doughnuts Forever
Mogwai - We’re Not Done
Hierroglyphic Being - The Melody Lingers
Erik Skantze - Jammy
Jon Hopkins – Emerald Rush
Django Django - Tic Tac Toe
Cave - San’ Yago
Howie B - Oh the Places You’ll Go
Cavern of Anti-Matter - Phase Modulation Shuffle
Holy Ghost – Anxious (A Tom Moulton Mix)
Daniel Avery – Quick Eternity (Four Tet Remix)
Django Django - Marble Skies
Yo La Tengo - What Chance Have I Got
77:78 - Chilli (Flying Mojito Bros Refrito)
Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - You Will Find a Home
E-40 - The Pots & Pan Man
Nile Rodgers & Chic - State Of Mine (It's About Time)
Anderson .Paak ft. Kendrick Lamar - Tints
Candi Staton - Confidence
Lone - Pulsar

peepee, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:52 (five years ago) link

I find these posts to be more helpful in finding out about things I missed.

peepee, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

My list

Mitski - Nobody
Lake Ruth - Julia's Call
Jean Grae & Quelle Chris - Gold Purple Orange
Beach House - Drunk in LA
Janelle Monáe - Make Me Feel
Low - Always Trying To Work It Out
Let's Eat Grandma - It's Not Just Me
Laurel Halo – Raw Silk Uncut Wood
Parquet Courts - total football
Blood Orange - Charcoal Baby
YAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of Time
Speedy Ortiz - Lucky 88
Oneohtrix Point Never - Black Snow
The 1975 - Give Yourself A Try
Robyn - Because It's in the Music
The 1975 – TOOTIMETOOTIMETOOTIME
MGMT - She Works Out Too Much
Neko Case - Last Lion of Albion
Janelle Monáe ft. Grimes - Pynk
JLin - Carbon 12
Lana Del Rey - Venice Bitch
Melody's Echo Chamber - Quand Les Larmes D'un Ange Font Danser La Neige
Domenique Dumont - Le Soleil Dans Le Monde
Neko Case - Bad Luck
Domenique Dumont - Sans Cesse, Mon Cheri

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 1 February 2019 01:04 (five years ago) link

Have the 'nearest neighbour'-type stats been published yet?

Twelves, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link

I'm back! Eggs all taken care of.

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link

gizza sec

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link

What's little and large? A big egg!

Twelves, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:26 (five years ago) link

^go back to lurking! (lol)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 01:32 (five years ago) link

Ballots as requested:

frogbs

Datarock - Feathers and Wax
Daphne & Celeste - Alarms
Orbital - P.H.U.K.
Janelle Monáe - Americans
Andrew W.K. - Music Is Worth Living For
Underworld and Iggy Pop - Bells & Circles
Andrew W.K. - I Don't Know Anything
Autechre - violvoic
Andrew W.K. - Total Freedom
Daphne & Celeste - Song To A Succulent
Janelle Monáe - Make Me Feel

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:34 (five years ago) link

nashwan

Ssion, Ariel Pink - At Least The Sky Is Blue
Chaka Khan - Like Sugar
Fischerspooner, Caroline Polachek - Togetherness
Neon Indian - Heaven's Basement (Theme From 86'd)
En Vogue - Electric Cafe
Childish Gambino - Feels Like Summer
Daphne & Celeste - Alarms
Mr Twin Sister - Echo Arms
DJ Koze with Roisin Murphy – Illumination
Nabihah Iqbal - Zone 1 To 6000

Fever Ray - Wanna Sip (Olof Dreijer Remix)
Simian Mobile Disco, Deep Throat Choir - Defender
Jon Hassell – dreaming
El Perro Del Mar - Fight For Life
Kamasi Washington - Fists of Fury
Hannah Peel - Kiss Me First
Róisín Murphy - Plaything
Tornado Wallace, Sui Zhen - Today (Move D Remix)
Mappa Mundi - Trance Fusion (Hunee Edit)
Kelela - Waitin' (Kaytranada Remix)
Kimbra & DAWN - Version of Me
Fabiana Palladino - Shimmer
Nile Rodgers & Chic - State Of Mine (It's About Time)
Gwenno – Tir Ha Mor
Snoop Dogg, Fred Hammond - Call Him

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:35 (five years ago) link

oh and this was my ballot:

The Beths - River Run: Lvl 1
Meg Baird and Mary Lattimore - Fair Annie
Domenique Dumont - Le Soleil Dans Le Monde
Nite Jewel - On Your Own

Fabiana Palladino - Shimmer
Keyakizaka46 - Moumorihekaerouka?
Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry

Roisin Murphy - The Rumble
Mother of Mars - Hera in the Valley
Perfume - Mugenmirai
YAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of Time
Ravyn Lenae - The Night Song

Lizzo - Boys
Dustin Wong / Takako Minekawa / Good Willsmith - The Garden of Earthly Flanger
Juliana Hatfield - Physical
Otha - One of the Girls
Tess Roby - Borders
Midori Takada and Lafawndah - Le Renard Bleu
Planningtorock - Much to Touch
Barbara Morgenstern - Triggerpunkt
Keith Fullerton Whitman - Albatross (Blend)

Peggy Gou - It Makes You Forget (Itgehane)
Kali Uchis - Your Teeth In My Neck
Hyolyn - See Sea

Lana Del Rey - Venice Bitch

obv you should check out all the ones in bold

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link

tt asked earlier as well (I only say on her behalf as she's asleep) :)

imago, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link

Voters topping the charts

Most lonely: saer :(
Top blood sausage m8: toby
The fuxxoriest fuxxor: Indexed
The infinite antifuxxors: imago, breastcrawl, MarkoP, Dinsdale, kruezer2, tangenttangent, daavid, Odysseus, peepee, saer
Hivemind queen: Murgatroid

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link

tangenttangent

Trust Fund - Abundant
U.S. Girls - M.A.H
Snape - Waiting for Death
SOPHIE - Faceshopping
Tropical Fuck Storm - Chameleon Paint
Black Dresses - Thoughts and Prayers
Hop Along - Not Abel
Mitski - A Pearl
Young Dreams - My Brain On Love
Hen Ogledd - Problem Child
Vennart - Immortal Soldiers
Superchunk - Erasure
YAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of Time
Suede - Life Is Golden
Kero Kero Bonito - Only Acting
mewithoutyou - Winter Solstice
Bill Wurtz - Mount St Helens Is Going To Blow Up
Die Wilde Jagd - 2000 Elefanten
Jeff Rosenstock - Yr Throat
Joanna Wang - The Motorized Scooter Edo
Optiganally Yours - How Do You Feel?
EASYFUN - Be Your USA
Teleman - Submarine Life
Dashboard Confessional - Catch You
Clarence Clarity - W€ CHANG£

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link

wau Gambino got 8 votes and still didn't place

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:45 (five years ago) link

LOL at me being the only voter for my number 1 choice ("Promises").

Tim F, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:52 (five years ago) link

seandalai can you post mine for me pls

johnny crunch, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:53 (five years ago) link

xp I know the feeling

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link

that's especially odd though, since Tim and jaymc tied for most votes in the top 77

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:55 (five years ago) link

The funny thing is that I had equal highest representation of my votes in the top 77 (15/25), and of everything I voted for "Promises" was probably the biggest actual chart performer?

xpost

Tim F, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:56 (five years ago) link

johnny crunch

lil baby & gunna - drip too hard
Drake - Nice For What
The Internet - Come Over
Cardi B ft. 21 Savage - Bartier Cardi
Drake – In My Feelings
Drake - God's Plan
Lana Del Rey - Venice Bitch
Saweetie - ICY GRL
Childish Gambino - This Is America
Nicki Minaj ft. Ariana Grande - bed
halsey - without me
Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry
Calvin Harris ft. Dua Lipa - One Kiss
Camila Cabello - Never Be the Same
lil baby & drake - yes indeed
Kanye West - Ghost Town
Playboi Carti ft. Red Coldhearted - Middle of the Summer
flipp dinero - leave me alone
Post Malone ft. 21 Savage – rockstar
kanye west - no mistakes
Sheck Wes - Mo Bamba
Panic! At the Disco - High Hopes

seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 02:00 (five years ago) link

My list

The Beths - Little Death
Hop Along - How Simple
Rae Morris - Dancing With Character
Lana Del Rey - Venice Bitch
Mitski - Nobody
St. Vincent - Fast Slow Disco
Robyn - Because It's in the Music
Let's Eat Grandma - Donnie Darko
Charli XCX - Girls Night Out
Musya Totibadze - Останусь с тобой
Kali Uchis ft. Bootsy Collins & Tyler The Creator - After The Storm
Jessie Ware - Overtime
Fabiana Palladino - Shimmer
The 1975 – Love it if we made it
Hatchie - Sure
Ravyn Lenae - Sticky
Kasper Marrot - Keflavik
The Radio Dept. - Going Down Swinging
Krystal Klear - Neutron Dance
Lindstrøm ft. Ronika - Didn't Know Better
Raveena - Honey
Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry
Le SuperHomard - Paper Girl
Lucy Dacus - Night Shift
Rina Sawayama - Cherry

kitchen person, Friday, 1 February 2019 02:26 (five years ago) link

Monotony my top neighbour. I think that's six years in a row now.

kitchen person, Friday, 1 February 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link

My weighted ballot. *'s placed.

Okkervil River - Famous Tracheotomies
Janelle Monae - Americans
*The 1975 - TooTimeTooTimeTooTime
John Prine - Boundless Love
Neko Case - Winnie
Carly Rae Jepsen - Party of One
Buffalo Tom - Roman Cars
*Toni Braxton - Long as I Live
*Hatchie - Sure
Titus Andronicus - Real Talk
St. Vincent - Fast Slow Disco
Superchunk - Reagan Youth
Downtown Boys - Fotos Y Recuerdos
Wussy - Aliens in Our Midst
Young Dreams - My Brain on Love
Jann Arden - All the Little Things
Laura Veirs - Lightning Rod
Christine Fellows - Cocoon
Camp Cope - The Opener
Marsha Ambrosius - Old times

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 1 February 2019 02:52 (five years ago) link

Can’t copy and paste from my phone but that’s quite a long list of songs that get 1 first place and no other votes, my own number one included

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:07 (five years ago) link

"Rubber Bullies" getting 6 votes has me very optimistic about the TFS album placement

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link

my mixed ballot, bold placed

Superchunk - Black Thread
Sheck Wes - Mo Bamba
mr twin sister – jaipur
Sada Baby & Drego - Bloxk Party
Hop Along - Prior Things
Peggy Gou - It Makes You Forget (Itgehane)
Valee ft. Jeremih - Womp Womp
Kali Uchis - Your Teeth In My Neck
Natalie Prass - Hot For The Mountain
Gunna ft. Lil Baby & Young Thug - Oh Okay
H.C. McEntire - Red Silo

Khalid ft. 6lack & Ty Dolla $ign – OTW
Amen Dunes - Believe
Arctic Monkeys - Four Out Of Five
The Breeders – Dawn: Making an Effort
Rae Morris - Dancing With Character
Hoodboi ft. Tkay Maidza - Glide
Rae Sremmurd ft. Young Thug – Offshore
Beach House - Black Car
Neko Case - Bad Luck
Hailu Mergia - Lala Belu
Future - When I Think About It
Robyn - Send To Robyn Immediately
Screaming Females - I'll Make You Sorry
Westerman - Confirmation

simmy simmy ya, simmy yam simmy yay (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:20 (five years ago) link

I didn't nominate tracks but nevertheless ended up being the sole voter for these two. Many thanks to whoever nominated Bas Jan in particular. Hadn't even heard of them before the noms playlist!

Bas Jan - Walton on the Naze
Tirzah - Devotion

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 1 February 2019 03:26 (five years ago) link

weighted (did not place, sole voter)

Marsha Ambrosius - Old Times
Kurt Vile - Bassackwards
H.E.R. ft. Bryson Tiller - Could've Been
Kash Doll - For Everybody
Kacey Musgraves - Slow Burn
Toni Braxton - Long As I Live
Phoebe Bridgers - Motion Sickness
Gerardo Ortíz - Egoísta
Khalid, 6lack & Ty Dolla $ign - OTW
Simmy ft. Sun-El Musician - Ubala
Lana Del Rey - Mariners Apartment Complex
Empress Of - When I'm With Him
Jacquees - You
Raymix - Oye Mujer
Sophie - Faceshopping
Mariah Carey - With You
Kim Petras - Heart To Break
Derez De'Shon - Fed Up
Ariana Grande - Breathin
Troye Sivan - Bloom
Taylor Swift - Delicate
Lil Baby - Cash
Trippie Redd - Topanga
Guayaba - Bye Bich (Dark Meat Remix)
MNEK - Tongue

great poll as always! i haven't gotten to the top ~20 or so yet but i can hold off for a little bit since as usual it looks to be the most boring part of the poll, at least based on the ones i know (yes i know some of the ones i voted for made it up there). whytf do ppl enjoy that particular mitski song. props to the pollrunners, voters and moka for the terrific graphics!!

last thoughts for now: both ariana grande songs that placed in the top 10 deserve to have been 78'd and are only impressive as seamlessly assembled, hyperefficient industry products. (yes i know i voted for a different ariana song that could also be described similarly.) i am starting to get sick of the 1975, the 'poptimist ;)' band for rockists, but alas one of my few heterosexual male friends has recently notified me that he really loves the new album (unsure if he'd heard any of the previous ones) so i guess i'll have to listen to it in full since i can't afford to lose any of those these days. i like "boo'd up" okay (not as much as "trip") but am sometimes perplexed by how little justification ppl seem to give for why they supposedly love it so much. surprised in a good way at how many ppl in the rundown enjoyed "long as i live" despite never having heard it before -- do turn on a grown-folks r&b station sometime! "before i do" not placing last year was a fucking disaster.

dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 03:41 (five years ago) link

both ariana grande songs that placed in the top 10 deserve to have been 78'd and are only impressive as seamlessly assembled, hyperefficient industry products.

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but you voted for that Kim Petras track, so... GTFO

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:46 (five years ago) link

Deafheaven - Honeycomb
The Nels Cline 4 - Imperfect 10
Mitski – Nobody
The Beths - You Wouldn't Like Me
Andrew W.K. - Music Is Worth Living For
Amy Brandon/Julian Bertino - Intermountainous
Nick Omiccioli - the field well
awakebutstillinbed - fathers
Nick Omiccioli/newEar Contemporary Chamber Ensemble - Haunted Seas
Alice in Chains - The One You Know
Sons of Kemet - My Queen is Harriet Tubman
Ghost - Rats
YAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of Time
Mary Halvorson - Storm Cloud
Childish Gambino - This Is America
Andrew W.K. - Total Freedom
The Beths - Future Me Hates Me
YAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Yandere
Deafheaven - Worthless Animal
Mitski - Geyser
Panic! At the Disco - High Hopes
Jack Tickner – Let’s Go
Julia Holter - I Shall Love 2
Greta Van Fleet - When the Curtain Falls
Ella Mai – Boo'd Up

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:49 (five years ago) link

seamlessly assembled, hyperefficient industry products

Leaving aside any general objection to this kind of description one might have, it seems to me that one can no longer (if one ever could) say from a production/creation standpoint that this description applies to "No More Tears Left To Cry" or "Thank U, Next" more readily than it does to much else studio-created "pop" in the broad sense - e.g. including, say, Wizkid.

What perhaps marks out Ariana, and these two singles in particular, is not anything about them as products in isolation but rather the systems of meaning into which they are received - their ready memefication (people posting instagram picks of themselves on profile in greyscale with a burst of rainbow light; the immediate sloganisation of "thank u, next"), largely made possible by ariana's status as the people's diva and locating her in a relationship of both similarity with and divergence from beyonce (sweaters with pink "surfboard" slogans; "I woke up like this"). You might describe the way they enter the new media slipstream as "seamless" and "hyperefficient" but there's nothing interchangeable with other pop products about those qualities.

It seems to me that if one was going to criticise them ("thank u, next" in particular) it would be to argue that much of their appeal is premised on these contextual effects, without which they're (it would be argued) weaksauce not hotsauce.

But since one does not have to divorce the songs from those effects, I ranked "thank u, next" pretty high up my list.

Tim F, Friday, 1 February 2019 04:04 (five years ago) link

It’s also just a lazy description — you can literally hear the “seams” in “NTLTC,” that’s partly why it’s so compelling and unusual.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link

(It repeatedly employs an abruptly/harshly clipped vocal hook!)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:15 (five years ago) link

kind of amazing that any "industry product" description of ariana's work, ESPECIALLY thank u next and no more tears to cry ignores the terrorist attack that intersected with her life only a year and a half before. both those songs are easily read and recognizable as deeply human responses. pop can be commercial and honest and it's silly to refuse to acknowledge that.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:37 (five years ago) link

yeah I def reacted to "no tears..." specifically with that context in the front of my mind

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link

and the association is still there

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link

Tirzah – “Holding On” - wasn't sure how i was gonna dig it when they started playing 3 blind mice on a default synth setting but this one really comes together nice! i really like how clear her voice comes thru, it's a low key wonderful voice. if other songs are similar i could for sure see myself getting into this (in a way i didn't with e.g. nite jewel b/c i only liked one song)

― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.)

This was one of my favorite songs of the year and one of my favorite albums of the decade. If I were a musician this would be the kind of album I’d love to create. It sounds like two good friends having fun with a 4-track and most of the time that’s the sort of vibe I look for in music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 1 February 2019 05:06 (five years ago) link

Tim and jaymc tied for most votes in the top 77

― rob, Thursday, January 31, 2019 7:55 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hivemind, baby! Unweighted ballot (bold did not place):

The 1975 - Love It If We Made It
Ariana Grande - No Tears Left to Cry
Bruno Mars ft. Cardi B - Finesse
Christine and the Queens - Doesn’t Matter
DJ Koze - Pick Up
Empress Of - When I'm with Him
Haley Heynderickx - The Bug Collector
Hoodboi ft. Tkay Maidza - Glide
Hop Along - Somewhere a Judge
Iceage ft. Sky Ferreira - Pain Killer

Jessie Ware - Overtime
Kacey Musgraves - High Horse
Kacey Musgraves - Slow Burn
Laura Jean - Girls on the TV
Lizzo - Boys
Meshell Ndegeocello - Sensitivity
Natalie Prass - Short Court Style
Rae Morris - Do It
Raevyn Lave - Sticky
Robyn - Honey
Roisin Murphy - Plaything
Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever - Mainland
Soccer Mommy - Your Dog
Sun-El Musician ft. Mlindo the Vocalist - Bamthathile
Tove Styrke - Say My Name

jaymc, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link

Just noticed that Phoebe Bridgers' "Motion Sickness" finished #94. I love it, but it came out in 2017, no?

jaymc, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:18 (five years ago) link

i like the tirzah largely bc it reminded me (4 obv rzns) of mica levi's feeling romantic feeling tropical feeling ill tape, which is my favorite thing ever

lowercase (eric), Friday, 1 February 2019 05:25 (five years ago) link

do i need to post my ballot or will the overlords do this for me

budo jeru, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:38 (five years ago) link


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