kind of side-eyeing "Spanish Language" as a genre, but then I organize my music geographically so...
― rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link
well, it was either that, "Latin," or "Global" and then fold in the K-Pop and Afropop and none of those things felt appropriate. I suppose I coulda gone with "Flamenco" but then that's just Rosalía and nothing else!I hear you though. I could use better definitions when it comes to some of this stuff.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link
Could you post my ballot too I honesty don’t remember
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link
Actually it was interesting to run through the list and think about which other languages were represented. I miss, but am too lazy to reproduce, lex's geographic breakdown that he'd always have ready right at the end
― rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link
i seem to recall him popping up last year JUST to deliver that list so perhaps we'll get a late xmas gift
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 00:33 (five years ago) link
He didn't participate in the 2017 threads except for that, but I think he at least voted. Did anyone get him to vote in 2018?
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:35 (five years ago) link
There's more rock/indie songs in there than any other genre? YOU FILTHY ROCKISTS
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 1 February 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link
I think this was mine:
Django Django – ChampagneCavern of Anti-Matter - MalfunctionThe Orb - Doughnuts ForeverMogwai - We’re Not DoneHierroglyphic Being - The Melody LingersErik Skantze - JammyJon Hopkins – Emerald RushDjango Django - Tic Tac ToeCave - San’ YagoHowie B - Oh the Places You’ll Go Cavern of Anti-Matter - Phase Modulation ShuffleHoly Ghost – Anxious (A Tom Moulton Mix)Daniel Avery – Quick Eternity (Four Tet Remix)Django Django - Marble SkiesYo La Tengo - What Chance Have I Got77:78 - Chilli (Flying Mojito Bros Refrito)Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - You Will Find a HomeE-40 - The Pots & Pan ManNile Rodgers & Chic - State Of Mine (It's About Time)Anderson .Paak ft. Kendrick Lamar - TintsCandi Staton - ConfidenceLone - Pulsar
― peepee, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:52 (five years ago) link
I find these posts to be more helpful in finding out about things I missed.
― peepee, Friday, 1 February 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link
My list
Mitski - NobodyLake Ruth - Julia's CallJean Grae & Quelle Chris - Gold Purple OrangeBeach House - Drunk in LAJanelle Monáe - Make Me FeelLow - Always Trying To Work It OutLet's Eat Grandma - It's Not Just MeLaurel Halo – Raw Silk Uncut WoodParquet Courts - total footballBlood Orange - Charcoal BabyYAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of TimeSpeedy Ortiz - Lucky 88Oneohtrix Point Never - Black SnowThe 1975 - Give Yourself A TryRobyn - Because It's in the MusicThe 1975 – TOOTIMETOOTIMETOOTIMEMGMT - She Works Out Too MuchNeko Case - Last Lion of AlbionJanelle Monáe ft. Grimes - PynkJLin - Carbon 12Lana Del Rey - Venice BitchMelody's Echo Chamber - Quand Les Larmes D'un Ange Font Danser La NeigeDomenique Dumont - Le Soleil Dans Le MondeNeko Case - Bad LuckDomenique Dumont - Sans Cesse, Mon Cheri
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 1 February 2019 01:04 (five years ago) link
Have the 'nearest neighbour'-type stats been published yet?
― Twelves, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link
I'm back! Eggs all taken care of.
― seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link
gizza sec
What's little and large? A big egg!
― Twelves, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:26 (five years ago) link
^go back to lurking! (lol)
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 01:32 (five years ago) link
Ok!
Full results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzfsaI__ThO3bvcUt4lYYTPBmNFDFteyVSzYgNlVvwE/edit?usp=sharingVoter stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qead3e_uylrHxeAMI1pzfuVUqu-F6USOzpN8TJv9hlM/edit?usp=sharingArtist results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11H0HCDx5tfKMNrlZyDyh1UHb7jtJwjYkgAyNKtfksBE/edit?usp=sharing
― seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:33 (five years ago) link
Ballots as requested:
frogbs
Datarock - Feathers and WaxDaphne & Celeste - AlarmsOrbital - P.H.U.K.Janelle Monáe - AmericansAndrew W.K. - Music Is Worth Living ForUnderworld and Iggy Pop - Bells & CirclesAndrew W.K. - I Don't Know AnythingAutechre - violvoicAndrew W.K. - Total FreedomDaphne & Celeste - Song To A SucculentJanelle Monáe - Make Me Feel
― seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:34 (five years ago) link
nashwan
Ssion, Ariel Pink - At Least The Sky Is BlueChaka Khan - Like SugarFischerspooner, Caroline Polachek - TogethernessNeon Indian - Heaven's Basement (Theme From 86'd)En Vogue - Electric CafeChildish Gambino - Feels Like SummerDaphne & Celeste - AlarmsMr Twin Sister - Echo ArmsDJ Koze with Roisin Murphy – IlluminationNabihah Iqbal - Zone 1 To 6000
Fever Ray - Wanna Sip (Olof Dreijer Remix)Simian Mobile Disco, Deep Throat Choir - DefenderJon Hassell – dreamingEl Perro Del Mar - Fight For LifeKamasi Washington - Fists of FuryHannah Peel - Kiss Me FirstRóisín Murphy - PlaythingTornado Wallace, Sui Zhen - Today (Move D Remix)Mappa Mundi - Trance Fusion (Hunee Edit)Kelela - Waitin' (Kaytranada Remix)Kimbra & DAWN - Version of MeFabiana Palladino - ShimmerNile Rodgers & Chic - State Of Mine (It's About Time)Gwenno – Tir Ha MorSnoop Dogg, Fred Hammond - Call Him
― seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:35 (five years ago) link
oh and this was my ballot:
The Beths - River Run: Lvl 1Meg Baird and Mary Lattimore - Fair Annie Domenique Dumont - Le Soleil Dans Le MondeNite Jewel - On Your OwnFabiana Palladino - ShimmerKeyakizaka46 - Moumorihekaerouka?Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry
Roisin Murphy - The RumbleMother of Mars - Hera in the ValleyPerfume - MugenmiraiYAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of TimeRavyn Lenae - The Night SongLizzo - BoysDustin Wong / Takako Minekawa / Good Willsmith - The Garden of Earthly FlangerJuliana Hatfield - PhysicalOtha - One of the GirlsTess Roby - BordersMidori Takada and Lafawndah - Le Renard BleuPlanningtorock - Much to TouchBarbara Morgenstern - TriggerpunktKeith Fullerton Whitman - Albatross (Blend)Peggy Gou - It Makes You Forget (Itgehane)Kali Uchis - Your Teeth In My NeckHyolyn - See SeaLana Del Rey - Venice Bitch
obv you should check out all the ones in bold
― seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link
tt asked earlier as well (I only say on her behalf as she's asleep) :)
― imago, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link
Voters topping the charts
Most lonely: saer :(Top blood sausage m8: tobyThe fuxxoriest fuxxor: IndexedThe infinite antifuxxors: imago, breastcrawl, MarkoP, Dinsdale, kruezer2, tangenttangent, daavid, Odysseus, peepee, saerHivemind queen: Murgatroid
― seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link
tangenttangent
Trust Fund - AbundantU.S. Girls - M.A.HSnape - Waiting for DeathSOPHIE - FaceshoppingTropical Fuck Storm - Chameleon PaintBlack Dresses - Thoughts and PrayersHop Along - Not AbelMitski - A PearlYoung Dreams - My Brain On LoveHen Ogledd - Problem ChildVennart - Immortal SoldiersSuperchunk - ErasureYAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of TimeSuede - Life Is GoldenKero Kero Bonito - Only Actingmewithoutyou - Winter SolsticeBill Wurtz - Mount St Helens Is Going To Blow UpDie Wilde Jagd - 2000 ElefantenJeff Rosenstock - Yr ThroatJoanna Wang - The Motorized Scooter EdoOptiganally Yours - How Do You Feel?EASYFUN - Be Your USATeleman - Submarine LifeDashboard Confessional - Catch YouClarence Clarity - W€ CHANG£
wau Gambino got 8 votes and still didn't place
― rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:45 (five years ago) link
LOL at me being the only voter for my number 1 choice ("Promises").
― Tim F, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:52 (five years ago) link
seandalai can you post mine for me pls
― johnny crunch, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:53 (five years ago) link
xp I know the feeling
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link
that's especially odd though, since Tim and jaymc tied for most votes in the top 77
― rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:55 (five years ago) link
The funny thing is that I had equal highest representation of my votes in the top 77 (15/25), and of everything I voted for "Promises" was probably the biggest actual chart performer?
xpost
― Tim F, Friday, 1 February 2019 01:56 (five years ago) link
johnny crunch
lil baby & gunna - drip too hardDrake - Nice For WhatThe Internet - Come OverCardi B ft. 21 Savage - Bartier CardiDrake – In My FeelingsDrake - God's PlanLana Del Rey - Venice BitchSaweetie - ICY GRLChildish Gambino - This Is AmericaNicki Minaj ft. Ariana Grande - bedhalsey - without meAriana Grande - No Tears Left To CryCalvin Harris ft. Dua Lipa - One KissCamila Cabello - Never Be the Samelil baby & drake - yes indeedKanye West - Ghost TownPlayboi Carti ft. Red Coldhearted - Middle of the Summerflipp dinero - leave me alonePost Malone ft. 21 Savage – rockstarkanye west - no mistakesSheck Wes - Mo BambaPanic! At the Disco - High Hopes
― seandalai, Friday, 1 February 2019 02:00 (five years ago) link
The Beths - Little DeathHop Along - How SimpleRae Morris - Dancing With CharacterLana Del Rey - Venice BitchMitski - NobodySt. Vincent - Fast Slow DiscoRobyn - Because It's in the MusicLet's Eat Grandma - Donnie DarkoCharli XCX - Girls Night OutMusya Totibadze - Останусь с тобойKali Uchis ft. Bootsy Collins & Tyler The Creator - After The StormJessie Ware - OvertimeFabiana Palladino - ShimmerThe 1975 – Love it if we made itHatchie - SureRavyn Lenae - StickyKasper Marrot - KeflavikThe Radio Dept. - Going Down SwingingKrystal Klear - Neutron DanceLindstrøm ft. Ronika - Didn't Know BetterRaveena - HoneyAriana Grande - No Tears Left To CryLe SuperHomard - Paper GirlLucy Dacus - Night ShiftRina Sawayama - Cherry
― kitchen person, Friday, 1 February 2019 02:26 (five years ago) link
Monotony my top neighbour. I think that's six years in a row now.
― kitchen person, Friday, 1 February 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link
My weighted ballot. *'s placed.
Okkervil River - Famous Tracheotomies Janelle Monae - Americans*The 1975 - TooTimeTooTimeTooTimeJohn Prine - Boundless LoveNeko Case - WinnieCarly Rae Jepsen - Party of OneBuffalo Tom - Roman Cars *Toni Braxton - Long as I Live*Hatchie - SureTitus Andronicus - Real TalkSt. Vincent - Fast Slow DiscoSuperchunk - Reagan YouthDowntown Boys - Fotos Y RecuerdosWussy - Aliens in Our MidstYoung Dreams - My Brain on LoveJann Arden - All the Little ThingsLaura Veirs - Lightning RodChristine Fellows - CocoonCamp Cope - The OpenerMarsha Ambrosius - Old times
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 1 February 2019 02:52 (five years ago) link
Can’t copy and paste from my phone but that’s quite a long list of songs that get 1 first place and no other votes, my own number one included
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:07 (five years ago) link
"Rubber Bullies" getting 6 votes has me very optimistic about the TFS album placement
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link
my mixed ballot, bold placed
Superchunk - Black ThreadSheck Wes - Mo Bambamr twin sister – jaipurSada Baby & Drego - Bloxk PartyHop Along - Prior ThingsPeggy Gou - It Makes You Forget (Itgehane)Valee ft. Jeremih - Womp WompKali Uchis - Your Teeth In My NeckNatalie Prass - Hot For The MountainGunna ft. Lil Baby & Young Thug - Oh OkayH.C. McEntire - Red Silo
Khalid ft. 6lack & Ty Dolla $ign – OTWAmen Dunes - BelieveArctic Monkeys - Four Out Of FiveThe Breeders – Dawn: Making an EffortRae Morris - Dancing With CharacterHoodboi ft. Tkay Maidza - GlideRae Sremmurd ft. Young Thug – OffshoreBeach House - Black CarNeko Case - Bad LuckHailu Mergia - Lala BeluFuture - When I Think About ItRobyn - Send To Robyn ImmediatelyScreaming Females - I'll Make You SorryWesterman - Confirmation
― simmy simmy ya, simmy yam simmy yay (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:20 (five years ago) link
I didn't nominate tracks but nevertheless ended up being the sole voter for these two. Many thanks to whoever nominated Bas Jan in particular. Hadn't even heard of them before the noms playlist!
Bas Jan - Walton on the NazeTirzah - Devotion
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 1 February 2019 03:26 (five years ago) link
weighted (did not place, sole voter)
Marsha Ambrosius - Old TimesKurt Vile - BassackwardsH.E.R. ft. Bryson Tiller - Could've BeenKash Doll - For EverybodyKacey Musgraves - Slow BurnToni Braxton - Long As I LivePhoebe Bridgers - Motion SicknessGerardo Ortíz - EgoístaKhalid, 6lack & Ty Dolla $ign - OTWSimmy ft. Sun-El Musician - UbalaLana Del Rey - Mariners Apartment ComplexEmpress Of - When I'm With HimJacquees - YouRaymix - Oye MujerSophie - FaceshoppingMariah Carey - With YouKim Petras - Heart To BreakDerez De'Shon - Fed UpAriana Grande - BreathinTroye Sivan - BloomTaylor Swift - DelicateLil Baby - CashTrippie Redd - TopangaGuayaba - Bye Bich (Dark Meat Remix)MNEK - Tongue
great poll as always! i haven't gotten to the top ~20 or so yet but i can hold off for a little bit since as usual it looks to be the most boring part of the poll, at least based on the ones i know (yes i know some of the ones i voted for made it up there). whytf do ppl enjoy that particular mitski song. props to the pollrunners, voters and moka for the terrific graphics!!
last thoughts for now: both ariana grande songs that placed in the top 10 deserve to have been 78'd and are only impressive as seamlessly assembled, hyperefficient industry products. (yes i know i voted for a different ariana song that could also be described similarly.) i am starting to get sick of the 1975, the 'poptimist ;)' band for rockists, but alas one of my few heterosexual male friends has recently notified me that he really loves the new album (unsure if he'd heard any of the previous ones) so i guess i'll have to listen to it in full since i can't afford to lose any of those these days. i like "boo'd up" okay (not as much as "trip") but am sometimes perplexed by how little justification ppl seem to give for why they supposedly love it so much. surprised in a good way at how many ppl in the rundown enjoyed "long as i live" despite never having heard it before -- do turn on a grown-folks r&b station sometime! "before i do" not placing last year was a fucking disaster.
― dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 03:41 (five years ago) link
both ariana grande songs that placed in the top 10 deserve to have been 78'd and are only impressive as seamlessly assembled, hyperefficient industry products.Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but you voted for that Kim Petras track, so... GTFO
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:46 (five years ago) link
Deafheaven - HoneycombThe Nels Cline 4 - Imperfect 10Mitski – NobodyThe Beths - You Wouldn't Like MeAndrew W.K. - Music Is Worth Living ForAmy Brandon/Julian Bertino - IntermountainousNick Omiccioli - the field wellawakebutstillinbed - fathersNick Omiccioli/newEar Contemporary Chamber Ensemble - Haunted SeasAlice in Chains - The One You KnowSons of Kemet - My Queen is Harriet TubmanGhost - RatsYAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - Out of TimeMary Halvorson - Storm Cloud Childish Gambino - This Is AmericaAndrew W.K. - Total FreedomThe Beths - Future Me Hates MeYAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - YandereDeafheaven - Worthless AnimalMitski - GeyserPanic! At the Disco - High HopesJack Tickner – Let’s GoJulia Holter - I Shall Love 2Greta Van Fleet - When the Curtain FallsElla Mai – Boo'd Up
― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:49 (five years ago) link
seamlessly assembled, hyperefficient industry products
Leaving aside any general objection to this kind of description one might have, it seems to me that one can no longer (if one ever could) say from a production/creation standpoint that this description applies to "No More Tears Left To Cry" or "Thank U, Next" more readily than it does to much else studio-created "pop" in the broad sense - e.g. including, say, Wizkid.
What perhaps marks out Ariana, and these two singles in particular, is not anything about them as products in isolation but rather the systems of meaning into which they are received - their ready memefication (people posting instagram picks of themselves on profile in greyscale with a burst of rainbow light; the immediate sloganisation of "thank u, next"), largely made possible by ariana's status as the people's diva and locating her in a relationship of both similarity with and divergence from beyonce (sweaters with pink "surfboard" slogans; "I woke up like this"). You might describe the way they enter the new media slipstream as "seamless" and "hyperefficient" but there's nothing interchangeable with other pop products about those qualities.
It seems to me that if one was going to criticise them ("thank u, next" in particular) it would be to argue that much of their appeal is premised on these contextual effects, without which they're (it would be argued) weaksauce not hotsauce.
But since one does not have to divorce the songs from those effects, I ranked "thank u, next" pretty high up my list.
― Tim F, Friday, 1 February 2019 04:04 (five years ago) link
It’s also just a lazy description — you can literally hear the “seams” in “NTLTC,” that’s partly why it’s so compelling and unusual.
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link
(It repeatedly employs an abruptly/harshly clipped vocal hook!)
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:15 (five years ago) link
kind of amazing that any "industry product" description of ariana's work, ESPECIALLY thank u next and no more tears to cry ignores the terrorist attack that intersected with her life only a year and a half before. both those songs are easily read and recognizable as deeply human responses. pop can be commercial and honest and it's silly to refuse to acknowledge that.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:37 (five years ago) link
yeah I def reacted to "no tears..." specifically with that context in the front of my mind
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link
and the association is still there
Tirzah – “Holding On” - wasn't sure how i was gonna dig it when they started playing 3 blind mice on a default synth setting but this one really comes together nice! i really like how clear her voice comes thru, it's a low key wonderful voice. if other songs are similar i could for sure see myself getting into this (in a way i didn't with e.g. nite jewel b/c i only liked one song)
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.)
This was one of my favorite songs of the year and one of my favorite albums of the decade. If I were a musician this would be the kind of album I’d love to create. It sounds like two good friends having fun with a 4-track and most of the time that’s the sort of vibe I look for in music.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 1 February 2019 05:06 (five years ago) link
Tim and jaymc tied for most votes in the top 77― rob, Thursday, January 31, 2019 7:55 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rob, Thursday, January 31, 2019 7:55 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hivemind, baby! Unweighted ballot (bold did not place):
The 1975 - Love It If We Made ItAriana Grande - No Tears Left to CryBruno Mars ft. Cardi B - FinesseChristine and the Queens - Doesn’t MatterDJ Koze - Pick UpEmpress Of - When I'm with HimHaley Heynderickx - The Bug CollectorHoodboi ft. Tkay Maidza - GlideHop Along - Somewhere a JudgeIceage ft. Sky Ferreira - Pain KillerJessie Ware - OvertimeKacey Musgraves - High HorseKacey Musgraves - Slow BurnLaura Jean - Girls on the TVLizzo - BoysMeshell Ndegeocello - SensitivityNatalie Prass - Short Court StyleRae Morris - Do ItRaevyn Lave - StickyRobyn - Honey Roisin Murphy - PlaythingRolling Blackouts Coastal Fever - MainlandSoccer Mommy - Your DogSun-El Musician ft. Mlindo the Vocalist - BamthathileTove Styrke - Say My Name
― jaymc, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link
Just noticed that Phoebe Bridgers' "Motion Sickness" finished #94. I love it, but it came out in 2017, no?
― jaymc, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:18 (five years ago) link
i like the tirzah largely bc it reminded me (4 obv rzns) of mica levi's feeling romantic feeling tropical feeling ill tape, which is my favorite thing ever
― lowercase (eric), Friday, 1 February 2019 05:25 (five years ago) link
do i need to post my ballot or will the overlords do this for me
― budo jeru, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:38 (five years ago) link