The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

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Huh, I didnt know that was what "ancient proficiency" was!

Apparently too - though I havent tried this - if you're on a lynel and whacking it around the head it doesnt do any weapon damage.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 1 February 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link

unlocking those map towers seem to be a good plan. had fun wondering around this morning, saw some cool stuff, like rogue robots and other creatures I never seen before. the oddest thing might have been some sort of cave or rock formation with several clumps of flowers in it. A flower reacted magically when I got near it, but I was unable to pick it or chop it down or anything.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link

there is a little game you can play w those flowers!

(ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Friday, 1 February 2019 19:59 (five years ago) link

zelda thread posts making me want to start a new file :o

(ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Friday, 1 February 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link

^^

DJI, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

Well, I have no idea what the little flower game is, so I left.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link

Ancient Armour was my favourite tbh

fgti's romance (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 1 February 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

Generally I liked wandering around like a ninja in the Sheikah armor. The Radiant Suit was fun and actually pretty useful when it was artificially dark. Right before going to the castle I expended a ton of hoarded items to get the Dark Armor, which was entirely pointless but cool looking I guess. I kind of wish I'd upgraded the barbarian one to the point of it being worth wearing, but that would have required becoming a lynel rancher

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link

lol @ lynel rancher

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

the spooky merchant in this was so cool

||||||||, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link

yeah I opened that up way too late in the game. some of the enemy masks looked fun to mess around with and evil horse gear was probably dope, but instead I cashed in tons of monster parts for the armor set...which looked sick but was pointlessly risky

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link

the stealth armor is my standard go-to armor, particularly since it gives a speed boost at night

i also use the climbing armor a lot when exploring

i'm super pissed that the harem girl armor is basically cosmetic-only and not upgradeable

(i know it's a pretty regressive and dangerous trope to even have in a game, but i feel like they did the trope about as well as they could have, and i quit ff vii in disgust when it got to the drag part)

also i wish there was another game with this same engine and another map to explore, i know nintendo is hell-bent on innovating whenever they're not making a mario game but i wish they would milk this game a little bit more

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:58 (five years ago) link

The Gerudo drag works imo because Link is an androgyne and he looks good in it

Norm’s Superego (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link

The Gerudo drag works imo because Link is an androgyne and he looks good in it


feel like link's androgyny is pretty intentional? it's a plus

gbx, Saturday, 2 February 2019 03:37 (five years ago) link

Definitely.

Norm’s Superego (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2019 04:07 (five years ago) link

I was having some fun searching for towers, but that mostly means avoiding 95% of enemies, who are almost almost all too tough to fight. So I guess I should prioritize getting hearts and stamina and, it seems, arrows, which I keep running out of. I keep bumping into things that are insanely overpowered, like this dancing magician who lights me on fire, or, I assume, the giant green snake I saw flying through the night sky.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link

Buy arrows any time you can

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:46 (five years ago) link

yeah even late game I'll still always buy every arrow from each vendor I come across. those things weren't plentiful ime

I thought of something you should try not to do - probably not an issue this early on - but don't sell off any ancient machine parts. some of those are very rare drops and you need them to craft ancient weapons/upgrade armour later on

||||||||, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

I must have missed the arrow store. I assume there's one in that first town, though I immediately got distracted and am now in the middle of nowhere, trying to scale a tower without robots shooting lasers at me.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:55 (five years ago) link

in the first town, yes, and you'll also come across vendors/merchants as you wander

||||||||, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:56 (five years ago) link

they do gate some areas in this game actually - via cold weather/lava. access to those areas requires certain armour

||||||||, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link

The Gerudo drag works imo because Link is an androgyne and he looks good in it

― Norm’s Superego (silby)

yeah! the big problem i have with "comedy drag" is that usually they make the person in drag look ridiculous and treat them as a figure of fun. that doesn't happen at all in breath of the wild. link's manner of dress, in fact, isn't treated in a demeaning or humiliating fashion, even by people who know perfectly well what his biological sex is.

josh:

the dancing magician who lights you on fire isn't "insanely overpowered" once you have the right tool to deal with him, and the giant yellow snake isn't a boss for you to kill (you'll probably learn more about the snake later).

you can buy arrows, but if you want to save your money the path to zora's domain is a pretty reliable source for grinding arrows.

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:03 (five years ago) link

Every stable you can buy arrows from beedle no?

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:04 (five years ago) link

they do gate some areas in this game actually - via cold weather/lava. access to those areas requires certain armour

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not at all, you can use food as a time-limited substitute for having the necessary armor

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:04 (five years ago) link

that's true actually - I just forgot because I mostly ignored those meals

||||||||, Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:05 (five years ago) link

the only meal I reliably used was 5 bananas

||||||||, Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:06 (five years ago) link

after i beat the game i looked up an faq on how the cooking system works, if you use a mighty porgy you can use two mighty bananas to get to level 3 and use your other two cooking slots for duration-boosting

longest duration involves using a bladed rhino beetle, frankly i could never get enough beetles to use them for cooking though

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

lots of beetles in a forest filled with shooty underground guys in the north-east corner of the map.

if you wield a wooden shield, arrows that enemies shoot will stick into it. when you put the shield away, they'll automatically go into your inventory. Probably said upthread, but bears repeating. worth it in a pinch.

early game (first ~ 20 hours) is a lot of finding creative ways to kill bobolinks or w/e they're called w/o depleting your weapon stash. i don't recommend playing the game in any particular order, but I do think that doing the Sheikah Slate quest in the Hateno village is worth it to upgrade your sat-nav thing. and also to obtain bombs that hurt (weakly) bad guys

i've played the game twice through, from load screen. important learning on second play-through: use the map-markers liberally, and don't be shy about teleporting from area to area at will.

remy bean, Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:21 (five years ago) link

75+ hours played. thought it would be more

any advance on that ?

||||||||, Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link

If I can't fight something without it killing me before I can even do any damage, then yeah, I consider that overpowered. Once I am able to defend myself against or destroy most enemies, then *I* will be overpowered. I'm sure eventually I'll get the thing that does the thing, but until then, I've got to avoid all but the most easy enemies. Though I have killed two or three people that turned into vengeful assholes, they weren't too bad.

Anyway. Just been exploring. Lots of climbing.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link

that was less of a "you n00b" thing and more "man it's really satisfying when you face off against enemies who kicked your butt early-game and kick their butts"

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 February 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

josh do you know about evade and flurry rush ?

I’ve just started a new save - I forgot how unforgiving the early game can be with little stamina, everything breaking all the time and only three hearts. my 75 hours standing me in good stead though - already off the plateau, got a good mix of weapons in my inventory and only died once

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link

it’s easy to miss a lot of basic stuff

Have you ever sunk 95+ hours into a game before coming back to the starting zone and accidentally stumbling into the tutorial?

lol yeah no me neither pic.twitter.com/TSFBNNYE1N

— negaoryx (@negaoryx) December 20, 2018

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link

it’s easy to miss a lot of basic stuff

Have you ever sunk 95+ hours into a game before coming back to the starting zone and accidentally stumbling into the tutorial?

lol yeah no me neither pic.twitter.com/TSFBNNYE1N

— negaoryx (@negaoryx) December 20, 2018

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link

if you wield a wooden shield, arrows that enemies shoot will stick into it. when you put the shield away, they'll automatically go into your inventory.

A similar trick is to find one of the bokoblin camps where they shoot at you with bomb arrows, but wait til its raining. The arrows rain down uselessly around you and you can collect em.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:25 (five years ago) link

is evade and flurry rush when you dodge at the right time and are able to get several attacks in?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:13 (five years ago) link

Dark Souls is super unforgiving early on, but at least your weapons don't break. and you can quickly build up your stats.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:14 (five years ago) link

the stats in Breath of the Wild are inside you

Norm’s Superego (silby), Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:41 (five years ago) link

man, josh thinking this shit too hard is the last thing I expected

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:48 (five years ago) link

also in awe of trayce. Thought this whole time was just bad at lynels. Turns out just bomb arrow expert.

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:50 (five years ago) link

That woman's face
That is classic
YOU CAN BACKFLIP?
Doodle-doodle-doodle-doo-doop! *expression*

fgti's romance (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 3 February 2019 05:20 (five years ago) link

Im baffled how she missed the tutorial. I'm a noob and I feel like it was right in my face, being directed to that shrine? It was so long ago tho, I cant remember.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2019 07:58 (five years ago) link

i feel like this streamer's existence proves my claim about the poor design of this game

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2019 09:54 (five years ago) link

josh what weapons are you using ?

once off the plateau - I’ve got a few travelers swords (which deal w red bokoblin), a few soldiers swords (which deal w blue bokoblin handily) and a couple of soldier’s bows. are you making sure to aim for headshots with your bow too? got min max those arrows

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 10:08 (five years ago) link

I've gotten a lot of weapons, a variety of swords (I had no idea any particular sword was better suited to any particular enemy; is that in their description?) but they've all broken quickly and I've found myself in a long stretch with no good enemies to raid for weapons. Well, I mean, there are enemies, but my bombs do virtually no damage and I've been out of arrows for a while. Until it breaks my primary is this big club thing I got from a tall one-eyed doofus I spent forever trying to kill. I did come across (in my journeys) a big camp of the blue/green monsters, the tougher version of the dumb easy guys (bokoblins?), and after taking them out I got a cache of claymores or broadswords or something bigger and stronger. Like, there were several sticking out of the ground. But of course my inventory capacity is tiny, so I only took one or two. Mostly I've been wandering around in search of towers, I can always teleport back to an easier area and raid for weapons. I should probably do that, anyway, to cook some of the food I've found. I don't even have any apples left!

fwiw I did manage to expand capacity once, with the whatever seeds, and since I've found more of those little green guys since then I should probably find a way to upgrade again. I do find the upgrade system (and the cooking system) a little annoying. It's just another step for the sake of another step. Like climbing. I get it, it's part of the game, but it takes foreeeeeever even though (so far) getting to the top of whatever is a foregone conclusion. I have a magic bandana that speeds me up, maybe there will be another thing like that.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link

I skipped the little battles most of the time and just pulled weapons from whatever shrine or quest I was doing. I was never short of weapons past maybe the first few hours of the game. My approach was to do shrines full-time, periodically doing a divine beast to break up my shrining. That way you build up hearts pretty quickly.

L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 3 February 2019 14:27 (five years ago) link

But you have to turn in the shrine baubles, right? At ... prayer statues?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link

the swords run:

traveler
soldier
knight
royal

the enemies run (in ascending order to HP):
red
blue
black
silver
golden

better swords do more damage. a soldier's sword can quite handily deal with blue enemies

remember you can also sell your jewels (amber, opal, ruby, diamond, etc) to any vendor. there are a few vendors who will give you more for these - but it's not substantially more so on the whole it's best to sell them fairly often in the early game. you can use the cash to buy arrows and/or armour

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:13 (five years ago) link

I do wish you could get the horny fairies to just upgrade a whole bunch of things in a oner instead of having to do each item one by one

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

I'm having a ton of fun in my second play through - it's a blast not being fully powered up and having to carefully manage my inventory etc.

think I'll play the main quest up to zora's domain and then have a think about what to do next

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link


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