The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

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on my first save I had just bought the lynel mask off kilton and mini lynel link was SUPER CUTE

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5 x banana + barbarian armour is good for lionel hunting

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i didn't think banana effects and barbarian effects stacked?

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 February 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

I didn't know that - only stacks to level three apparently

better approach is apparently ancient armour set + ancient weapon + mighty banana meal

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

barbarian armour set + def up would presumably be good too

||||||||, Sunday, 3 February 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link

this thread revive has motivated me to reinstall botw and do some post-game cleanup + DLC, once i'm done with dead cells

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 February 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

in some village I just encountered some statue that enigmatically stole some of my stamina but gave me a heart. I don't know what's up with that.

there's a shrine I really want to get to, but I have to find some way to sneak past all the bad guys in a skull fort right outside of it. it keeps raining, which means I can't scale the cliff and sneak up. there's an example of something that is pretty cool but also pretty annoying. The rain. just makes things either look bleak or makes it hard to do for no good reason. as far as I can tell.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link

by the way, I see that there are walkthroughs for this game online, but how do you pull that off in an open world environment? I can totally see seeking out help on a case-by-case basis, but this game does not seem designed for "do this than that than this in such and such order."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 18:50 (five years ago) link

If you’re in Zora realm then the rain won’t stop until you beat the divine beast there

L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

josh: you can cook stamina foods that will help you get up those slippery slopes. i also think there were some armors that increase your climbing grip/ability

there will always be a way around every obstacle in this game

Nhex, Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link

Josh, the walkthroughs chart a course to/through the four divine beasts quests and detail how to unlock and solve the shrines. They’re arranged more or less arbitrarily.

rb (soda), Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link

I'm doing a pretty good job evading enemies, or at least outrunning them, and I have a couple of good weapons. Though I do keep running out of arrows, which has been a problem on multiple occasions. Haven't been bothering with most sidequests, still want to focus on towers and shrines. That shrine radar is pretty generous in terms of distance. It starts beeping and I look all around and see nothing except a shrine somewhere way off in the distance and I think, huh, is that it?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link

Should say that a few enemies so far are super fast (like these lizards that were hanging out on a swimming platform in tropical land) and some of the chopping mall guardians that keep finding newer and faster ways to kill you. I prefer the puzzle shrines, which are annoying but at least more achievable (at least for now).

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

yeah, i did a long stretch of shrine-grinding pretty early on, both because they were fun and also to get more hearts/stamina.

i usually skipped the ones that combat-focused, leaving those til near the end of the game.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 3 February 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link

Josh if you want, I'd also recommend googling "things I wish I'd known about botw before staring playing' or similar.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2019 02:50 (five years ago) link

(not a dig! I did this and it pointed out some "oh - DUH" stuff that really helped!)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2019 02:50 (five years ago) link

Also early game strategy for me was: it is perfectly ok to just RUN AWAY from some things. Do not even try to fight lynels, rock monsters or Hinox - leave them sleeping.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2019 02:51 (five years ago) link

One thing I do like about this open world thing is that, despite my frustration of having no real sense of direction (in every sense), the flip side of that is that by just wandering around and screwing around and screwing up with no bosses or clock running down or whatever to deal with, it does give me a good sense of the world/game. In fact, at this point - and I don't know how much time I'll ultimately be able to give this game - I can imagine doing just what I'm doing for hours and hours and days and days, not advancing the story or fighting battles or doing much of anything of much importance, just climbing and flying and doing my stuff. I keep finding new environments and terrain and enemies, which is fun.

I did get struck by lighting for the first time today. I knew I was supposed to take off all my metal gear but I was basically like, psh, who the fuck cares, getting struck by lightning seems easier than rushing to avoid it.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2019 03:49 (five years ago) link

Hi yes my possibly 300+ hours of gameplay concur with the just farting around exploring approach.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2019 04:44 (five years ago) link

Popped back in to play a bit more today. Made some progress on towers and shrines, but man, I'll concede I'm not that clever about these things and certainly not patient, but having looked up a couple shrine walkthroughs as needed there is just no way I would have figured some of the puzzles out and, for that matter, there are already a couple of shrines I got stuck on whose solutions just seems like such frustrating bullshit that I'm just not going to bother with them at all.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:53 (five years ago) link

Josh are you smart

Norm’s Superego (silby), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:55 (five years ago) link

Who can say? But also impatient, which really offsets any smarts. Because if there's a stupid shrine that doesn't take smarts, just patience and a million attempts, like the one where you have a to carry a ball, and use stasis, and limbo under lasers ... yeah, I just don't care enough to do that over and over again.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 01:02 (five years ago) link

a boy used to carry a ball in the street

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 02:55 (five years ago) link

I played this for the first time since early November this past weekend. I think wondering around and exploring was what I needed to hear, cuz that’s what I did and it was fun. As opposed to fucking with that 2nd Ancient Beast that I think made me quit last time.

circa1916, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 03:00 (five years ago) link

i did look up solutions for a couple of the dungeons, those weren't quite my thing, but the shrines were never anything i felt i had to walkthrough, and usually walkthroughs are my first resort - i grew up playing adventure games whose idea of a "puzzle" was some mensa bullshit. i kind of love most of the shrines in breath of the wild because i did solve them by just playing around and experimenting, some of them not in the "right" way. if one is inclined to think that sort of playing style "stupid" i could see it getting frustrating though.

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 03:05 (five years ago) link

I've seen videos of amazing methods people used to by pass some shrine puzzles. I cheated on some myself - I just couldnt work the puzzles out - I'm not ashamed lol. But the ones where its not a matter of looking anything up, just timing such as platformer jumps and fights... yeah.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 03:06 (five years ago) link

Yeah also what rusho said, in that there isnt any one "right" way to do a lot of this stuff.

(case in point: saw someone on reddit use a bomb and blow themselves up to fling the body over a chasm to skip a whole section in a shrine, lol)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 03:08 (five years ago) link

I had so many lightbulb moments doing shrines, i'd get frustrated and turn off, but then come back the next day and suddenly figure out how to do it. That was a lovely feeling.

(Although most of my lightbulb moments were me suddenly thinking, "oh yeah, magnesis, duh")

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 05:22 (five years ago) link

yeah, most botw puzzles boil down to thinking of your different abilities and what they're allowed to do on the level .usually objects are lit up and color coded when you're using an ability, so just walk around the levels thinking about which abilities could be useful and equipping and trying out different ones. eventually you'll probably seem some sort of lever that can be manipulated and it will all come together.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:05 (five years ago) link

one of the most annoying for me was actually the one that wasn't really a puzzle - you just had to sort of stasis-hit a giant ball across a moat like a golf ball. all it was really was trial and error until you got it right

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:34 (five years ago) link

The similar one with the rock in the bottom of targaryan canyon or whatever its called with the golf thing was also frustrating.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 07:59 (five years ago) link

That's what I meant, those sorts of challenges, where you know exactly what you have to do so it's just a matter of trial and error. Over and over again. I realize some folks might be into that, but I'm generally not, since the reward to me is not worth it. For example, with Dark Souls (which I know sorry but I just played) the Capra Demon or the Anor Londo archers are or can be a real pain, but there really is no practical alternative. Same thing with a lot of platformers; you just gotta do it. But there are tons of shrines in Zelda. The real world game of Zelda has so many puzzles to solve and opportunities to goof around that I don't really feel the need to seek out optional additional ways.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link

one of the shrines i have fond memories of, though, is a total gimmick shrine - the whole thing is just set up kind of like the opening sequence of "raiders of the lost ark".

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link

There is a really goofy wit to a lot of the game, both in the behavior of the enemies and the dialogue of the people you encounter. A real roadrunner/coyote vibe to lots of stuff, too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link

Indulgent Zelda question - I have an old Game Cube with Wind Waker in my basement that I've never played (for some reason). But I've also figured I can pick up a Wii U and Wind Waker HD affordably cheaply secondhand. Worth it? Anyone played both versions?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 7 February 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link

I have.

Wind Waker original is like the first two seasons of Twin Peaks-- best Zelda game ever for the first 2/3rds, plot advancing thrillingly, then suddenly, prior to the final boss, you're made to perform hours upon hours of oceanic fetch quests that are about as exciting as James Hurley's motorcycle adventure, and you will punch a hole in your couch

The HD version corrects this somewhat. Just as they made it possible to fast-swap shoes in Ocarina 3D (thus making the Water Temple un-tedious and even fun), Wind Waker HD greatly reduced the amount of labour required in dredging up eight Triforce pieces in advance of facing the last battle. For this reason I'd highly recommend the HD version over the original version

froggles! (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 7 February 2019 13:48 (five years ago) link

I've now played Breath of the Wild for several hours and I honestly feel like I haven't even started it yet. That's a good and bad thing, but mostly good!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link

how many hours do you think you've put in so far? personally, i was having a pretty good time with it during the first 5-10 hours, but then things kind of clicked and i reaaaaally enjoyed hours 15 to 75, which is way longer than i usually play any game. by the end i think i had clocked a little over 100 hours, and i was kind of astonished to see that it was that high because the time just flew by.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

Yeah also the WiiU version of WW is great because you have the map on the handheld, which helps while navigating around, like having a second screen.

I found the controls a bit janky compared to the GC tho? maybe im just shit at it lol

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

josh - have you been to zora's domain yet?

||||||||, Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

I just met the mermaid Avatar prince who wants me to go turn off the tap in waterworld. this is the first specific plot related direction I have been given since I first learned about divine beasts iirc. I assume somewhere in my settings I can see the time I've spent right?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link

I think it says I have been playing for 25 hours or more? I guess that is possible. maybe ity including my daughter's play time?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link

no, that's me. but I am very slow to pick up on these things, so 25 hours for me is probably more like 5 hours for most people.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:03 (five years ago) link

you are doing it right imo. I did many towers and shrines before the first beast.

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 February 2019 04:23 (five years ago) link

Same, and I especially took my sweet ass time once I finished the first beast and had a sense of how long the entire game would take if I rushed through.

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 February 2019 04:24 (five years ago) link

it seems like everyone did the zora's domain beast first but somehow i ended up doing it next-to-last. i did the bird one first.

i get semi-irrationally annoyed by zora's domain because the town/castle is a pain in the ass to navigate, with all those long bridges that loop around and you can't always tell which one takes you where. i should probably go back and explore that area some more because i hurried out of there before.

na (NA), Friday, 8 February 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link

I did the cunt camel first

||||||||, Friday, 8 February 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link

brb, headed to "posts out of context"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 February 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

Confession: I x-skip almost all the mini cut-scene sequences I can skip, often in the shrines, but I never skip the the cooking, which I dutifully sit through and enjoy.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 February 2019 14:44 (five years ago) link

same

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