CROOKED RAIN CROOKED POLL

oh and this album is still great!

"Cut Your Hair" is our generation's "We're An American Band"

https://www.theringer.com/music/2019/2/14/18224287/pavement-crooked-rain-25th-anniversary-range-life-cut-your-hair-gold-soundz

Those National Geographic finds are great

newark wilder doesn't get enough love

― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:58 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agree, def my fav

top 5 album all time, idc what 36-year-old cool guys say on Twitter in 2019

love this album to death

this thread makes my head hurt:

Listening to Malkmus yelp "You're the kind of girl I like / because you're empty / and I'm empty" in that sing-songy naifish voice makes me want to vomit

— Jeremy Gordon (@jeremypgordon) February 14, 2019

More for us, then.

A popular state!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJeK3nBDdU&fbclid=IwAR3OjK0CRGp1mfRlzurwgaJC9h3c1K-0NiOwljIaNZGpZ5IUqvzgEZXVd5E

Dang.

Well, that was supposed to lead you to Pavement's "Colorado."

malkmus's archness was so needed among a decade of manly emotions

Someone recently posted on ILM the original source from which the "Cut Your Hair" cover art was taken (an old German LP?), but I can't find it. If you read this (whoever you are), would you mind reposting? Thx!

i honestly feel bad for those who let all the shit surrounding pavement (the slacker image, the perceived sloppiness) get in the way of letting those effortlessly pretty melodies into your heart

iirc no one at the time actually cared about archness/slackerness/sloppiness; it was more about whether they owed mark e. smith royalties or had sold out by making a video

on malkmus' tombstone: HE DID CROSSWORDS

I remember almost everyone loving them, with few complaints...

I was interning at CMJ in the summer of '95, when a VHS with the “Father to a Sister of Thought” video arrived from Matador... the editorial staff immediately went into a conference room and watched it intently, with the volume cranked up high

they really were the last psychedelic band, goodnight guys

Liked it a lot, but did not love it right after "Slanted."

Then after "Wowee Zowee" the first 3 albums plus the Westing collection crystalized into this permanent part of me.

What a journey from those first EPs to CRCR and Wowee!

we never did find out what their throats are filled with

their throats are filled with

one of my all time faves. blew my mind slightly when i first heard it

who is the 36yo cool guy

W/r/t The archness/slackerness/sloppiness it bothered me at the time, esp the show I walked out of cuz no one in the band really seemed to know how they songs went and Malkmus seemed like he was incredibly bored with everything.

I know he's said recently he doesn't understand how that rep got started...well it seemed pretty clear at the time.

And I really think UMS is right, we needed the archness, even if made some people (me) bristle.

But so, I loved Crooked Rain and I still do!

good album imo

You can definitely see the "slackness" on display here... SM seems bored to the point of passive-aggressive hostility (it's a pretty funny interview, tho):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92FpC-7Zt0

who is the 36yo cool guy

― ||||||||, Friday, February 15, 2019 4:43 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

W/r/t The archness/slackerness/sloppiness it bothered me at the time, esp the show I walked out of cuz no one in the band really seemed to know how they songs went and Malkmus seemed like he was incredibly bored with everything.

I know he's said recently he doesn't understand how that rep got started...well it seemed pretty clear at the time.

And I really think UMS is right, we needed the archness, even if made some people (me) bristle.

But so, I loved Crooked Rain and I still do!

― chr1sb3singer, Friday, February 15, 2019 12:58 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it felt like the critics in that twitter thread linked above were responding to this persona, not so much the music.

lol xp

I haven't read that Twitter thread (and won't), but why bother complaining about an artist's "persona" from 20 yrs ago?

“Pavement = ironic slackers” is lazy shorthand that’s hardened into conventional wisdom. Their best songs positively ache. I mean, “Here” was covered by the Tindersticks.

— Stuart Berman (@stuberman) February 15, 2019

otm

Morris otm, but rock bands and especially indie rock bands are perpetually plagued by dolts who worry about what they represent

i generally found pavement's shambling onstage schtick more charming/entertaining than annoying back in the day (and they were occasionally great when I saw them), but i get why people might find it to be a turn off. i've always been a little confused as to why they're still such a flashpoint for some — it's cool if you don't dig 'em!

That interview is hilarious. I mean, how would you react to being interviewed by Lewis Largent, the Candlebox of MTV VJs?

I find all of their antics a lot more charming/funny now then I did, also a lot of it had to do with much hand-wringing at the time over "irony", and honestly I knew people who really liked Smashing Pumpkins & STP who felt like that those lyrics, even though they are obviously tossed off near non-sequiturs (actually that probably made it worse), were real shots fired at those fan bases.

At least in my experience the two tweakers I worked nights with didn't find it very funny that some "college boys" were making fun of them and other choice descriptions said around gobs of chewing tobacco pinched in their cheeks.

did they also use the 3-letter "f"-word?

And the 6 -letter version and several other words & phrases that don't get bandy about anymore, I certainly did.

Yeah but to describe Pavement specifically, lol (I could just tell it followed from "college boys"...)

Ha oh yeah totally, though frankly they way these dudes said it, "college boy" was just about the worst thing you call someone

are we supposed to revisit this every 5 years? i was pretty satisfied with the 20th anniv revisiting.
i did lol at era/error and start screaming KOREA in my head though

this is another one of the albums that the stalker left on my windshield. at the time, i was pretty glad he left me this one because i was going to buy it anyway. i have mostly fond memories of this album + gentlemen.

you people are my people

also, i thought their throats are filled with silence ... i.e. you loop the lyrics back around to the front end of the album. that's a theory i read, anyway.

If you mash up "Trigger Cut"/"Fillmore Jive" you get:

filled with... rocks & sand

Someone recently posted on ILM the original source from which the "Cut Your Hair" cover art was taken (an old German LP?), but I can't find it. If you read this (whoever you are), would you mind reposting? Thx!

I didn't see and can't find the original post, so sorry for not giving credit, but went looking based on that "Melody in F" text in the corner, and this looks like it:
https://www.discogs.com/release/5277469-Beer-Garden-Piano/images

Sorry to whoever originally found it, please do post here!

(There are some other, uhhh, classic cover pics in the Barrel Fingers Barry oeuvre)

Cool, thanks!

happy 30th

Oh hell.

Come on now, talk about your family

Damn

up
to the top of steve shasta gulch

write it on a postcard

in the city we forgot to name