Things you were shockingly old when you learned

Anne Baxter was Frank Lloyd Wright's granddaughter.

sabra is not just a brand of hummus, but also a term for israeli jews born in israel.
(also, it's from the hebrew word for prickly pear cactus, which is native to north america, not israel.)

That Chevy Chase is a nickname that stems from an old ballad and that Chevy Chase is a place in Maryland too.

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The concept of the Hall of Fame has its roots in ancient Norse mythology. Valhalla was an enormous hall in Asgard where warriors who were slain in battle would go upon their death.

King Ludwig I of Bavaria was apparently inspired by this legend, and built two different halls inspired by the Norse legend: Walhalla near Regensburg, Bavaria (completed in 1842), and the Ruhmeshalle in Munich (completed in 1853), whose name literally means "Hall of Fame." These halls were museums containing plaques and statues of important German-speaking people, including scientists, artists, and politicians.

there is also the Pantheon, in Paris, not sure how that fits in..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthéon

I always thought Chevy Chase was a kind of car :/

Now that is a winner!

Wait wait I mean, I knew who Chevy Chase was, lol. I meant I thought his name was a nickname after a car.

Still a winner

That Rufus of Rufus & Chaka Khan was a band not a man.

Wow.

I think it evolved out of the American Breed. Had some of the same players at least.

I would say the same about Portugal. The Man but...

Yeah, for the longest time I wondered what Rufus Khan had been up to since he'd inadvisably split with Chaka. TBF, it seems almost deliberately misleading.

without ever looking it up til now, i always assumed it had something to do with stax records' rufus thomas. so i wondered a few minutes ago if it was an homage or something. wrong again.

"They re-emerged in 1969 under the name "Smoke". In 1970, after switching their management to Bob Monaco and Bill Traut, the group's name changed again to "Ask Rufus", the name is taken from the title of the advice column in Mechanics Illustrated. "

fr wiki

Nothing deliberate about it (leave alone “misleading”), they were always a band, and were known as such. When they became famous through their songs with Chaka, they were billed as “Rufus featuring Chaka (Khan)”. Only when Chaka had become a star in her own right (as well), they became “Rufus & Chaka (Khan)”, but the album sleeves still clearly featured the whole band. I doubt that anyone at the time was picturing a “Rufus Khan”.

That Rufus of Rufus & Chaka Khan was a band not a man.

― Alba, Tuesday, February 19, 2019 2:31 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i had a recent, similar revelation about Tony Orlando & Dawn

chaka and the rufii

I doubt that anyone at the time was picturing a “Rufus Khan”.

if you were a child listening to the radio in your parents' car, or to the announcer at the ice rink, and not browsing LP sleeves from decades earlier in America, you were absolutely capable of picturing this

“from decades earlier”? I said “at the time”. And sure, a young kid will picture all kinds of stuff in its mind, but I was responding to the suggestion it might have a been a “deliberately misleading” name. It wasn’t.

1970 might as well be decades earlier in the 1980s, when you have not been alive for even one decade

I for one welcome our new policy of rigorously factchecking every Old Lunch post, though.

Nooooooooo

FACT CHECK: yes.

fact check the phrase “at the time”

you realise that, jokes aside, you are the one telling both OL and myself that we DIDN’T think Rufus was a person AT THE TIME, because we learnt years later that it was a band

this is classic ilx

and that records from 1970 still existed in 1976 and 1983 and 1988 and 2017

jim otm

breastcrawl would be shocked and amazed by the casual misconceptions about all kinds of things you can overhear in public

and half the time, it's not worth jumping in to correct them

I still feel bad that I even got into a discussion when I was around a group watching live U2 concert on television and I felt the need to correct a couple misconceptions. like, somehow there was an impression that "the Edge" had a real name of Brian Eno

long story short, I ended up in a discussion about U2 and still regret that

correct a couple misconceptions. like, somehow there was an impression that "the Edge" had a real name of Brian Eno

no, this is true, it's why he wears a hat and a silly beard to disguise himself

my plausible misconception has been corrected

or maybe you could just read what I wrote (like my words in their context) instead of what you think I wrote.
(Is unmisconceptionalize a verb?)

see, the thing about words is what you mean to convey and what you actually convey depends on the audience's reception, context, etc.

and everyone else on the thread is like "whoa, why did that guy jump on Old Lunch's humorous musings about whether something was 'deliberate'" because in context we know he's jokey and implying a conspiracy is the type of joke

so that's the context you kind of jumped into, literally disputing something that -- at least to me -- was an ambiguous statement meant in jest

my dad has worked for a long time at a business called "ralph lastname, inc."

people call and ask for ralph. now, in this case, there was a ralph. he died over 45 years ago. but people make assumptions

i can state almost without a doubt that a band called "ask rufus" was in fact asked "which one of you is rufus?" at some point in their career and by changing their name to "rufus" they knew this would continue, and was in fact very funny

When I was a kid, other kids in the playground snottily insisted the song "Howzat" by Sherbert was about cricket. When I told them it was about a guy accusing his lady of cheating they all jeered at me like I was an idiot.

I bloody wasnt, grump.

^ I bet I wasn’t the only person itt who argued fruitlessly in the playground that the baddie in Star Wars was called Darth Vader, not Dark Fader

“darth vader? those aren’t even WORDS”

LOL

cricket is kind of like cheating on wife. both end in ashes, right

Think of your cheating self as a batsman and your wife as a wicketeeper standing up at the wicket to a slow bowler - she'll whip your bails off if she catches you.

this is classic ilx

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:16 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its classic ilm and fuck it

So I took a joke post by Old Lunch at face value? An Original Sin if there ever was one.

As to what happened after: sic quoted my “at the time” out of the context of my post and then transplanted it to their own context, thereby implying I said something I never said, and then doubled down and all-capsed on it, even after I had already acknowledged their point.

Then mh jumped in to do some ILXplaining while making assumptions about me based on the thing I never said that sic claimed I said.

I like a nice forest, but not when it consists of shifting goalposts. But that’s classic ILX for ya, I guess.

FWIW mine was actually not a joke post in this particular instance but I'm aware of the part I've played in muddying those waters so I understand the confusion.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dGA1_pou1fk/Vb5b7YXP0YI/AAAAAAAAYL8/5crK_E73pDw/s1600/S66-05120.jpg

i've been seeing images of the saturn/apollo rocket since i was born, and i never never considered ~where~ in the assembly the actual personnel module/capsule (ahem, "command module") was positioned, or what its actual parts scale looked like. and like, i've seen the usual movies and stuff. i can't believe how small the capsule is.

i'm more disappointed by my lack of curiosity to know than my actual ignorance.

iirc you can climb into (a facsimile of?) the command module at the air and space museum in DC

is it cool?

I'm haunted by the memory of how I was incredibly jealous that other kids had been to this astronaut exhibit at our local science museum when I was a kid but I hadn't. I'd heard about how field trips would do activities showing what it's like to be on a space station, and it sounded so cool.

I wasn't shockingly old, but I finally made it through there in middle school and it was at that point I realized the whole thing was for ten year olds and it was mostly painted plywood and sheets of plastic that approximated an airlock. It was not, in fact, that cool.

I was a huge airplane nerd when I was a kid and didn't get to the air and space museum until I was like 30 and it was still the best thing ever.

speaking of apollo missions i only learned like yesterday that "the eagle has landed" wasn't like a cool secret codephrase, the lander was literally named Eagle and it had landed