The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

what game should we bully josh into playing next

I vote QWOP

I'm a fan of any game where you can retrieve your arrows from the body of your victim (or over by a bush because I completely missed my target) and reuse them. That's value!

i vote civilization

marvel puzzle quest

just so we can get him addicted and then he can complain about how botw doesn't have a tech tree and he wanted to research the trebuchet

maybe we are the game that josh is playing

because i feel like a goddamned fool right now

woah

some people were open to this idea but the majority didn't want to hear it

Are we living in a simulation?

morpheus in chicago

I'll take the korok pill pls

Josh, play Xenoblade Chronicles 2

xenoblade chronicles 2 looks decent but i wish the characters would repeatedly yell out whatever they're doing more frequently in battle

someone start a caucus josh thread so can put our arguments to the country chicago

we*

Josh should play the Sims and see if he gets fed up with having to go to the toilet/eat/sleep over and over, sinking into a morass of existential crises.

...maybe thats just how I play it.

I fucking hate The Sims. My kids both play that, it's like a stupid doll house.

And I know how to get arrows in Breath of the Wild, that's not the point. The point is that I have to get them! They might as well have made it a requirement in this game, like Sims, to make Link have to go to the bathroom every couple of hours.

Josh ffs you can take game actions or you can decline to take game actions just do it or don’t

really? you mean this game is optional?

I don’t even understand anymore. Why do you have to make lines in Tetris? Why do you have to shoot the enemy in goldeneye? Why do you have to hand over the ball when you go out of bounds in basketball? Why is bunting allowed? Why does white move first? Theres reasons for all these things but if you’re playing the game in the first place the reasons do not fucking matter!

Like my dude there’s no fucking logic to it you can click or you can cease clicking, all games are just about making small numbers get bigger until the credits roll, if you don’t want to do it you can stop and it doesn’t MEAN anything

some click to remember. some click to forget.

And I know how to get arrows in Breath of the Wild, that's not the point. The point is that I have to get them!

The inverse of this if I understand you is basically an unlimited supply/weapon stash. Now to me, thats kinda unchallenging, but again it depends on the game. This game is all about the go-and-get/explore/work out/find.

I don’t know anything about Dark Souls because I’m not a n00b but one thing about a lot of Japanese rpg-types is a simulacrum of “real life” and the social interactions that compose it and arrows in botw are part of that.

I found the botw weapon system odd at first but I grew to really like it, the challenge of working out where all the awesome gear is hidden, working out what to keep in your inventory and what to toss (should I keep a few wood bows and swords for thunderstorms? Do I really need 3 frost Greatblades? Boomerang vs throwing spear - what do?).

I would like to have been able to store more than 3 of each thing at my house, but eh.

botw is essentially a survival game which is why all your resources are limited. its not a rpg

Good point. Thats particularly driven home in both the Eventide Island bit and trial of the sword dlc.

a survival game where climbing a 46-degree* slope in a drizzle is the most lethal predator

*I don't know that it's 46-degrees, but you know the cut-off is this arbitrary

Calculating angles is probably overboard. Whether or not the cathedral ruins inherit from the SlipperyGuy class may have been at the designer's discretion.

I *think* I'm back on board. It was really a matter of finding the right rhythm, recognizing when it's cool to simply teleport in and out of somewhere and when it's better to just wander and discover. Still haven't taken on a divine beast, but had a streak of very satisfying shrines and towers (a couple of which the challenge was simply getting there - thinking of a shrine near the castle surrounded by guardians, or ... or a tower surrounded by guardians). Had also been frustrated because the first couple of times I was asked to get naked for that mad scientist for some reason I couldn't drop trou, but I was eventually able to doff my armor and parade for the dude, so now got some ancient arrows. Not many, granted, and they seem hard to come by, and also hard to use. Appeared to do little to no damage to a guardian in the wild? Anyway, def. getting a bit more momentum going again.

Have to say it's a huge help that there really is no bad side to dying, afaict. Just a small hiccup or setback, like being struck by lighting. If I lost equipment or rubies or souls or something it would be a lot more frustrating. In this game it's more a gentle (right down to the music cue) "it's ok, try again."

i still struggle against the guardians. i haven't shelled out for much of the ancient technology and can't seem to get the timing of the shield reflection of their lasers right

Finally being able to kill guardians without resorting to ancient arrows was when I first felt like I’d “gotten good”

Josh: ancient arrows'll become easier once you get the hang of killing guardians so in the meantime, gather up every cog and spring the shrine versions drop, cos you'll need em for the arrows.

Also: dont kill big bad guys (Lynels etc) with ancient arrows, they will blink out of existence and you will miss out on their weapon drop. Guardians excluded here - kill them using ancient arrows, 2 or 3 of those in the eye and itll drop like a fly.

xp haha Ive never killed guardians without either anc arrows or an anc sheild parry. I'm the worst lazyLink.

it should only take one ancient arrow in the eye? or maybe it's a bow power issue. speaking of bows, the ones with arrow multipliers (3x, 5x, etc) shoot that many arrows per shot. however, they only consume one inventory arrow per shot. I needlessly stayed away from them for a long time because I thought they'd waste arrows.

I needlessly stayed away from them for a long time because I thought they'd waste arrows.

lol, whooooops! same here. so wait, is there any reason to use a 1x bow over a 5x bow, if they both only use 1 arrow per shot but the latter is 5 times more powerful?

I think there could be a trade-off in range between bows that isn't very transparent. but the 5x bow will do 5x the damage at the same cost in arrows if all the effective arrows land.

i learned this from one of the loading screen hints. i was very upset about it.

Yeah I def use the multiplier bows (lynel bows and the great eagle bow esp) as they do indeed multiply the shot using only one actual arrow.

One shot with a savage lynel bow to the eye of a guardian and they're done for.

(I was cross I'd avoided fighting Lynels for so long as I didnt know they'd drop such powerful gear)

PS the great eagle and the ancient bow both shoot *dead straight* for quite a long distance (no drop) so are good for distant sniping. But both are hard to come by of course.

How come the guardians seem to take some minor amount of damage with the first hit of almost anything, and then ... seemingly no damage after that?

where or how are you hitting them?

with anything from a bomb on up, from a distance, up close, etc. Lately I just avoid them because I can never make any progress.

bomb arrows, swords ... little progress.

at least out in the wild. In the shrines bomb arrows worked pretty easily. at least with little guardians.

there's really only two easy ways to beat them: shield parry (any shield works, you just have to get the timing exactly right or you die), or ancient arrows.