woody allen

oh, i'm sure he'll find some european ingenues to make doe eyes at some thinly-veiled, handsomer, slightly younger iteration of himself.

slightly younger? with Jesse Eisenberg, he's had to go two generations now.

yeah that occurred to me. i guess even liam neeson has got to be 15-20 years younger than woody at this point.

as opposed to earlier, when liam neeson was merely 10 years younger than woody.

if indeed he wasn't always

xp ffs

liam neeson gets younger every year fyi

A Rainy Day In New York coming out everywhere except the USA:

https://thefilmstage.com/trailer/first-trailer-for-woody-allens-a-rainy-day-in-new-york-starring-timothee-chalamet-elle-fanning-selena-gomez/

bcz of our sense of justice

if only it were because distributors realize his scripts are awful

agreed

https://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/A-Rainy-Day-in-New-York-620x308.png

Chalamet looking like a young Fran Lebowitz here.

Please don't lump us all in with the French and the Italians.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/amazon-studios-woody-allen-rainy-day-in-new-york-rights-1203220413/

it's crazy how his good/bad ratio fell off so completely around 2002 or so. Everything afterwards is so lazy and half-baked. Given that he's a incapable of evaluating is how work, I don't expect he'll ever cop to some big shift in his process but ... what happened around then? the Dreamworks deal? Did he lose some key collaborators or something?

Jean Doumanian?

xp. personally i feel like his ratio falls off somewhere just after, i dunno, deconstructing harry (which i actually don't even think is particularly good in hindsight, but in the terms of later period woody allen is definitely among the better pictures)

like if you take away sweet and lowdown and small time crooks the run of bad to mediocre that starts with celebrity kind of never stops

you don't like Sweet and Lowdown?

We can quibble about the demarcation point somewhat, it just feels like something went seriously awry at the start of the millenium

xps

yeah i guess i am quibbling a lot. i consider sweet and lowdown and small town crooks to be among the better movies he's made in the last 20 years. i'm honestly not crazy about either of them, but besides anything else/match point/whatever works they're masterpieces

by besides I'm meaning "in comparison to", oof. my brain

his slide seems to roughly coincide with his realization that he could no longer credibly play a romantic lead, maybe that just sapped his interest

Yet from 2005 until fairly recently he released several films that became among his highest grossing: Match Point, Scoop, Midnight in Paris, To Rome with Love, Blue Jasmine.

those movies are (mostly) bad!

Mostly just released to long-haul flight entertainment systems I think

I offered description, not criticism. One of my hobbies in the last decade is writing long reviews of bad Woody Allen films. It was like sit-ups: not too strenuous, felt virtuous afterward.

I always forget that so many of these nu-Woody flicks were big moneymakers

well, relatively

not sure what would make me interested in seeing any film by Woody Allen, having seen none to date

are any of them good

I always forget that so many of these nu-Woody flicks were big moneymakers

― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Tuesday, December 10, 2019 6:01 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

well, relatively

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 10, 2019

Relative to their budgets a few of them (MIP in particular) were HUGE money makers.

lol silby

like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?

The only mildly amusing Allen movie in the last twenty years is Irrational Man, only because it's weird watching Joaquin Phoenix adjust his quirks to Woody.

like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?

srs question: are these joke questions

here's the woody allen movies I'm aware of:

whatsit, the one named for the girl, Annie Hall: the plot is Woody Allen gets dumped
Manhattan: I assume it's set in Manhattan
Blue Jasmine: only aware of this because of a Comedy Bang Bang gag
Everything you wanted to know about sex: I don't want to know about sex

shakey I never joke

uh ok

I like Vicky Cristina Barcelona but mostly because of Penelope Cruz. Most W. Allen films consist of conversations that I would slowly walk away from in real life.

like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?

Broken down his filmography through 2002 with a yes/no question (yes indicating that it involves said fucking):

What's New Pussycat? - No
What's Up, Tiger Lily? - No
Take the Money and Run - No
Bananas - No
Play It Again, Sam - No
Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask) - No
Sleeper - No
Love and Death - No
The Front - No
Annie Hall - No
Interiors - No
Manhattan - YES
Stardust Memories - No
A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy - No
Zelig - No
Broadway Danny Rose - No
The Purple Rose of Cairo - No
Hannah and Her Sisters - No
Radio Days - No
September - No
Another Woman - No
Crimes and Misdemeanors - No
Alice - No
Shadows and Fog - No
Husbands and Wives - YES
Manhattan Murder Mystery - No
Bullets Over Broadway - No
Mighty Aphrodite - YES
Everyone Says I Love You - No
Deconstructing Harry - sort of
Celebrity - No
Sweet and Lowdown - No
Smalltime Crooks - No
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion - YES

a bunch of those are good-to-great. Annie Hall in particular is a comedy milestone/landmark film imo.

like are any of them not about he, Woody Allen, fucking a much younger woman?

some of them are about him fucking a woman his own age. one of them is about Javier Bardem fucking two women, one of whom is five years younger than him* and one that is fifteen years younger than him. one is about Jason Biggs fucking someone his own age, but it is much worse than any of the American Pie movies.

* (that he has repeatedly fucked onscreen for 26 years and counting, as of Everybody Knows)

dang xpost

this has a chart of the age gaps between pairings in his films. https://www.mic.com/articles/185578/heres-a-chart-showing-the-age-gaps-between-romantic-partners-in-woody-allens-movies

I wonder if silby would like Annie Hall.

I wonder a lot of things

lol I looked up the Biggs one and forgot it's about him cheating on his girlfriend with a slightly younger woman and seeking advice from Woody Allen on what to do about it

I think you wouldn't. But if you ever get mono maybe you could give it a shot. It's fine. xpost

I'm not exactly seeking out movies about het romances these days

my lesbian boomer pals and i get into arguments about it because they love it and I am like ... it's ok.

the main thing it has going for it is that NYC isn't overcrowded in it.

I bet a silby could enjoy several of the good-to-great Woodys, including Annie Hall, if able to set aside "imo Woody is a sex creep" preconceptions. But there are plenty of other movies to watch.

xpost again, I went off and read the Mic chart