Royal Trux : Classic or Dud ?

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On first listen through this sounds fine to me; it's neither as good as Veterans of Disorder or Electric Brick Wall but it sits comfortably between the two, and I 100% have time for that kind of album

space rock gapdy = ADOSE (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link

Amen

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

can't listen to that interview at work. what's the short version of her leaving drag city?

one thing notale about drag city is how much loyalty they seem to inspire. royal trux are exceptional in being long time or old time d.c. acts that have left the label not once but twice. cf. bill callahan and will oldham who have stuck with them for 25+ years despite surely getting lots of offers from bigger labels.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

*notable

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

Listening to the podcast now; Jennifer suggests that Drag City operates in some kind of groupthink fashion that was dragging them down (transcription is mine):

Neil and I have, like, all sorts of ideas[...] We don't want to be held down, we don't want to be told no, and we don't want to be on a label that's a collective mind. When we want to do something, we can't wait for the label to determine if everyone else wants to roll that way. We're autonomous, and always have been[...] They're the label, and we're the artist. It's more of a 'project' than a seriously functioning record label at this point.

She goes on to say that when she finally overcame her skepticism around streaming, and wanted Trux's stuff out there, she was frustrated by the politics around how Drag City was approaching it at the time.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link

huh. honestly it's hard to imagine any label satisfying her desire to roll with whatever they want to do.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:31 (five years ago) link

"they"

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:31 (five years ago) link

"our 2020 album will only be released on CD-ROM"

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

The specific incident she mentions is that she is/was pro-streaming and DC kept pushing back for months and then finally they acquiesced and let Royal Trux/RTX/Black Bananas be available on streaming sites and within a day or two the entire Drag City catalog started being available as well.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:33 (five years ago) link

The way I heard/understood it, it was only after they had left the label, and their catalog was made available by Fat Possum, that all the DC stuff also came online (which was the "irony" of the situation).

yuh yuh (morrisp), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link

Haha, I def like the accuracy of your take better than my 1/2 of one ear semi-listening take.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link

omg interviewer seriously just asked about "'white stuff' in terms of racism" I'm dying

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:01 (five years ago) link

Podcast interviews conducted via telephone are t-h-e W-O-R-S-T

yuh yuh (morrisp), Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:03 (five years ago) link

I don't know what the story is with Drag City; but when you consider that even Neil "noted he was 'overjoyed' not to be working with the band’s previous label" (per one of the interviews linked above) -- something definitely went bad there.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:06 (five years ago) link

is your ejaculate racist y/n?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:12 (five years ago) link

I'm kinda glad I heard this after all the Neil/Jennifer drama and read some of the negative reviews, since it set my expectations to a point where I really kinda liked it. It's not great, but not the Black Bananas redux I kinda feared. I still don't like the Kool Keith track and a few others, but "Suburban Junky Lady", "Every Day Swan" and "Whopper Dave" give me what I like.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link

I agree, it's definitely a better album than what I / we had been led to believe

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link

I think it's great fun. And it still feels like RT except for the Kool Keith track but I'm gonna guess that was Jennifer H's call so I'll give her that one weird outlier.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 23:38 (five years ago) link

THE 1987 ROYAL TRUX PINK CASSETTE HAS BEEN FOUND AND RIPPED
http://tinyurl.com/rtx1987

Just making my rounds passing this out. If you know anyone who's interested in hearing this pass it along.

trux tracker (edges), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

/\ cassette rip credit goes to Concentric Circles on instagram
https://www.instagram.com/concentric_circles_/

trux tracker (edges), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

whoa

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link

!

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link

Oh weird, vocal on "Gold Dust" almost sounds like Daniel Johnston. Wonder if this has been uploaded at the right speed. Can't really tell Neil and Jennifer apart! Nice find.

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link

Pretty sure it's ripped at the right speed. There was a 30 second clip released a year ago by another tape owner that sounds the same.

This is before Jennifer came into her rough vocal style. Just a kid at that point

trux tracker (edges), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link

Priceless!

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

Thanks for sharing the link to this demo; very cool.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link

"Cut You Loose" and "Luminous Dolphin" sound like the same versions on Singles, Live, Unreleased -- yes?

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 22:46 (five years ago) link

yes, and it seems like Bare Bones & Andersonville are the same as on the first LP.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 22:51 (five years ago) link

Just got to those (and agree).

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 22:56 (five years ago) link

This tape is really good... fills in the gaps without shattering any of the "mystique" (...we have White Stuff for that).

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

sounds like the NYC show has been canceled too

tylerw, Monday, 29 April 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

Looks like the whole tour has been axed.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 April 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

Ugh. Shouldn't be terribly surprised, but...

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 29 April 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

Definitely not surprised. Purchased the tix figuring that this would be the most likely conclusion TBH.

Still love that record tho.

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Monday, 29 April 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

hey they should have announced the tour was cancelled last june sorry they lied

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) April 29, 2019

tylerw, Monday, 29 April 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

Strange update. Facebook post by Jennifer

"So you wanna know....why? "TRUX BAND" Rehearsal ...waiting and on the hunt
few day ago
hit this cover in 15....obv liberties were took
"After the Fox" The Hollies / Peter Sellers"

https://www.stereogum.com/2041908/royal-trux-cancel-tour/news/

Permanent re-host of mp3: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aCaE-IRv7I6F_SnyCESMPQXKFY8pTQOb/view

trux tracker (edges), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

I'm going to divert my Trux tix money toward the Flipper show.

I couldn't make it too far past "Is it the same guitarist on the Black Bananas album?" but if you want to hear Jennifer Herrema interviewed by Greg Gutfeld, here you go
https://radio.foxnews.com/2019/04/03/royal-trux-black-bananas-with-jennifer-herrema/

Mike Dixn, Friday, 3 May 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

remember when they produced that make-up album? in mass mind? that record rules

adam, Saturday, 4 May 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

The interviewer there keeps the narrative about the '90s band's exemplary career path going. Who are we meant to compare them to, Motley Crue? There were tons of alternative aesthetic/indie bands who were in and out with major labels in the '90s; someone would have to explain to me how Royal Trux's arc was more admirable than another's

timellison, Saturday, 4 May 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

someone once said (or maybe wrote) that the Royal Trux major label deal was the only one in history in which you sympathized more in the end with the major label than with the band

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 4 May 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

wrong

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 4 May 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

(as usual)

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 4 May 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

wrong as in somebody didn't actually say that? I just mean I read that quote in a zine or something many years ago and it stuck with me. afaik the band were paid to not record a third album for Virgin and were subsequently able to buy a big house. Obviously it's probably a little more complicated than that but if you have any insider knowledge please do share, I'm just going by what I'd always heard. Seems like they did OK, even as far as ending up right back where they started on Drag City

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 4 May 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

Accelerator was the third album; Virgin declined it and Trux owned it under the deal, so were able to release it on DC.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 4 May 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

Re: how successful they were or weren't back in the day, looks like their top-sellers were:
Cats & Dogs - just north of 10K
Royal Trux and Thank You - a lil over 8K
Accelerator - around 6500

Everything else under 5K.

To put this in perspective, all the early Smog records sold 10-15K... most Jesus Lizard records sold between 20-40K...
Heck, Steven Jesse Bernstein's Prison sold 12K!

They were way more popular than Action Swingers and Helios Creed!

mr.raffles, Monday, 6 May 2019 04:29 (four years ago) link

What are those, like, first-week numbers?

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 6 May 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

nope.

Total US Soundscan.

mr.raffles, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 03:54 (four years ago) link


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