Primal Scream: C or D?

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off-thread topic but the 'turn to page 32' thing re Gnarls Barkley album is more interesting. catering for ultra ADD if ever i saw it.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Every time I see a current NME cover, I wanna curl up and cry

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Mr Bobby Gillespie Record Collection Rock get your f-ing haircut your long haired mopped twonk

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Primal Scream: We Still Don't Give a F***

And neither do we, so f*** off ya talentless c***

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG @ that nme cover. So, so sad. So desperate. I read the page-long live review on the Observer yesterday, WTF @ that. Has there been a brit band from the last 20 yrs who have had such a free ride from the music press?

NME gave the Scream dogs abuse for the Give Out But Don't Give Up
album. Infact they really hated rocks in particular when they reviewed the single.

That album may not be perfect but I don't think it's as bad as NME & Co claimed at the time.

The new album is a return to stonesy stuff isn't it? hmmm. I'm not sure thats a great idea though, they've spent years trying to get rid of that image. Still lets wait and see what it sounds like before judging. After all Evil Heat was just a rehash of xtrmntr(their best album IMO)

At least the Scream aren't just content releasing clones of Screamadelica which I'm sure the press would've preferred.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Bobby: "I love Can ever since I was a teenage punk rocker"

'nuff said?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

what do "17 year olds in doncaster" think of that long haired leather jacket wearing bloke?

that don't remember screamadelica.

they were only 11 when xtrmntr was released.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Primal Scream were scheduled to play Top of the Pops in November 1994, despite the fact their most recent single, I'm Gonna Cry Myself Blind, had not got into the charts.

Their management had arranged for Luton Airport to remain open longer than usual so the band could fly in after playing in Dublin. Apparently Luton wasn't "rock 'n' roll" enough, and the band refused to make the trip. They were banned from appearing on the show for the next three years.

Say no more. Oh wait...

"He’s just Michael Hutchence with a better record collection and a worse voice, you know, hehe."
Edwyn Collins speaking of Bobby Gillespie

Lotta Continua (Damian), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

so classic. the ridiculous posing is just part of the charm!

pash, did you ever write the bobby/alex from blur slash? that sounds totally horrifying.

haitch (haitch), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR all style and reference points... but all the same an enjoyable noise and bits of it are original (MBV arkestra- ironically a remix and Insect Royalty)... Vanishing point ok, inconsistent and unsatisfying tho, as is Evil Heat, which apart from its opening song (brilliant broiling electronics and guitar samples) is duff and flat. less said about the wannabe stones stuff the better. I can only suggest that they are caning the narcotics again to even think of engaging in such musicological necrophilia. It actually makes perfect sense for such a po mo band to sound best when produced by many different hands... fitting...

HOWEVER: that OMM live review made me want to put my fist thru the monitor screen in front of me- christ! so many lazy rock'n'roll cliches... someone got paid to write that heap of sphincter-fellating old todge?

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Martian, I was 12 when Screamadelica came out in 1991, and I'm considerably older than 17 now.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

screamadelica /= xtrmntr

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

just idle curiosity, but is 'screamadelica' a very good seduction CD to use on somebody who doesn't know very much about music? need to know by this weekend. (ideally you'd want to 'finish' right at the end of "loaded")

dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

god no

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 07:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard about Crazy Bob Gillespie doing Give Out But Don't Give Up, Part Deux but I thought it was an April Fool's joke...

I wish it was.

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"Trick of the Tail" would probably be a better choice, Q.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

the new single sounds like bad zztop with extra added mandolin it is truly gruesome, toe curlingly milk curdlingly bad. i almost managed to convince myself stonesy balladry might be the last dignified bolt hole for the pscream but evidently not. plus gillespie seems intent on preening like a tit more than ever just at the point at which he ceases to pull it off altogether

cw (cww), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 08:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I normally loathe that whey-faced poltroon, but seriously a description like 'bad ZZ Top with mandolins' makes it sound AWESOME! Can it possibly live up to this sort of hype I wonder? I'll warn you now though, I still feel grudgeful about spending 50p to get goddamn XCRMNTR out of the town library.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link

oh man i'm sorry if i've inadvertently raised expectations please quell them immediately. the mandolin only kicks in as if in 3/4 of the way through with a shit eating shrug of desperation

cw (cww), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

the new single sounds like bad zztop with extra added mandolin it is truly gruesome, toe curlingly milk curdlingly bad

bollocks. the new single sounds like xtrmnr-era prml scrm going rock, with a mandolin, and as such is absolutely fucking wonderful. irritatingly, it disappeared from the iTunes music store (UK) just as i was trying to buy it, and now won't come back. fuckers.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

"Screamadelica" and "Vanishing Point" were both classic albums.

The rest are largely dud, particularly "Give Out But Don't Give Up"

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Apologies for the baseball analogy, but the Scream are like a batter who swings for the bleachers every time. Yeah, there are strike-outs but when they connect...

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I am totally excited about a sub-ZZ top song with a mandolin.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link

you should be, shakey mo! i've managed to find a shitty recorded-underwater rip of it, and even that fucking rules.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

its funny how all the British folx seem to hate them for their overexposure (and its attendant revelations about lame personal behavior/viewpoints of the bandmembers). Since we don't get that in America, the band is BEYOND obscure, a cult thing all the way - I could care less about their tabloid shenanigans, I just love the music.... (how much? I just ordered a vinyl copy of the Dixie Narco ep. that's how much)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Shakey OTMFM.

Where can I hear this new single??? Did the BBC play it? Is it on their official website?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

a vinyl copy of the Dixie Narco ep

i remember buying that in HMV in blackpool the day it came out. there's a truly beautiful pedal-steel song on it. god damn, now you've made me want to hunt through 1,000-odd records to find it. must ... go ... to ... bed ...

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

XFM scotland played the single tonight (not for the first time); it is a truly awesome soundtrack to zooming round the big roundabout between the A77 and A78 ;)

it was briefly on iTunes tonight but disappeared. a hunt in the usual places should reveal some really piss-poor radio rips.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

it is a truly awesome soundtrack to zooming round the big roundabout between the A77 and A78

(not that i want anyone thinking i just drove round and round a roundabout listening to it. although, thinking about it, that would be kinda fun ...)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

and it's not the A78 ... it's the A71 ... MUST ... GO ... TO ... BED ... AND STOP FILLING ILM WITH SHIT ...

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

that MBV akrestra ... that was a connect holy fuck!

fandango (fandango), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a crappy cassette copy of the EP that's on the outs so that's right I am buying it on vinyl. How luddite am I.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

(Also: does anyone know what the fuck the original of the Dennis Wilson "Carry Me Home" was released on...? There's a cover on the Dixie Narco EP and I am a Beach Boys nut but damned if I've never even heard of this song. And I own a copy of Pacific Ocean Blue, it ain't on there).

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: does anyone know what the fuck the original of the Dennis Wilson "Carry Me Home" was released on...?

It was never released. It was supposed to be on the Holland album

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

You can get a poorly recorded version on a bootleg what I have, but can't remember the name thereof. Feature David Frost elsewhere.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

it worked

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dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

the new album is pretty boring-stonesy-crap. sad after the heights of xtrmntr...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link

xtrmntr was six years ago!!!!

despite them being my fave band ever for some time, i have been fearful approaching their recent stuff. LOVE for 'dixie-narco' ep.

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I love that cover. He's just staring at me, going "IT'S ME YOU, LOVE, AND YOU KNOW IT!!! SINCE YOU WERE 15 BABY, COME AND GET IT!!!" but bad stoner rock is not the way to get my attention. Sigh.

Bernard's Summer Girlfriend (kate), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

(how much? I just ordered a vinyl copy of the Dixie Narco ep. that's how much) you daft sod you could have had my copy for nothing (if I could actually find it, that is)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah? well uh got any other stuff you wanna give away?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I too love me Dixie-Narco. I kinda rendered Give Out irrelevant.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

xtrmntr was six years ago!!!!

god i feel old suddenly ! xtrmntr is by far my favourite prml album (vanishing point is ok, screamadelica and devil whatever, a bit boring... give out and this latest one, are absolutely uninteresting).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

You guys are all on crack. This "Country Girl" song is awesome.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha awesome dave!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Based on the photos from last month's appearance at the Isle Of Skye fest:

1. Kevin Shields is showing up again
2. Bobby cut his hair (when his hair gets shorter the albums get better)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/242/517585691_7395aa3b5c.jpg

Some things never change.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Bobby got introduced by Warren Ellis at ATP as "former Jesus and Mary Chain drummer Bobby Gillespie" - I'm sure he appreciated 20+ years of work being ignored :)

onimo, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

man, I didn't even recognise him! i though he was Ian McCullough when looking at the thumbnails.

Still a twat.

Shields looks good, he looks really good; he's lost a bit of weight recently. saw him a few months ago, he was doing sound for... uhhh, what is the name of that band. Rog's little brother's other band. this is really helpful I know.

ha ha, I agree with yr assessment of hairlenght to album quality, though - as usually it is indicative of drugs consumption.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Story at the end of this blog post needs more attention.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link


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