US by jordan peele

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I agree that the thematic ambiguity is good. I did find the actual script needlessly overburdened with content to interpret, incl "we're americans" tbh. things left unstated are much more unsettling.

Simon H., Monday, 25 March 2019 12:34 (five years ago) link

I think “we’re Americans” works as deadpan, that’s how my engaged crowd seemed to take it, any other level aside.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Monday, 25 March 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link

Why did Adelaide stay in the tunnels all those years when Red was able to escape fairly easily?

― Chris L, Monday, March 25, 2019 7:38 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

She was handcuffed to her bed. Presumably someone eventually helped her out of it but perhaps it had been so long that she had no idea how she would get out and find her parents?

From 14 on she seemed more interested in inspiring the others.

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link

that it’s difficult to derive a single clear message from this movie is... good

Yeah, agreed. I mean, does everyone finish their first watch of The Shining frustrated that the message isn’t clear?

“We’re Americans” sets up that there are two classes of people who are tethered but do not visibly overlap. While watching it, I thought the Tethered were from a world where slaves were never freed...but in the end the story feels as much about class as race. You grow up in the underworld, you don’t get to heal your face, and so on. And what does the main family owe that underworld, whether they are their ancestors or themselves if not for good luck?

... (Eazy), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:32 (five years ago) link

I think “we’re Americans” works as deadpan.

That too, definitely.

clemenza, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

/The line doesn't give their jumpsuits their meaning, but it's the only point we have to go off of. The line makes it obvious there's something to the horror beyond a genre exercise, so................... what is it? and the twist totally complicates all of this./

you want an explainer not a movie


No, just more meat.

flappy bird, Monday, 25 March 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

Go watch Magic Mike then

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link

But there’s only two of them

flappy bird, Monday, 25 March 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link

Just skimmed this--unqualified rave.

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/review-jordan-peeles-us-is-a-colossal-cinematic-achievement

clemenza, Monday, 25 March 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link

Just saw this, flopson otm about the twist being easy to spot. Seemed like an obv possibility from the start if you’ve like ever seen anything before, and then when she’s finishing off the one twin and grunting just like the tethered ppl do and the son comes in and stares at her horrified, clearly suggesting that he’s starting to figure something out, and then they keep on piling on massive hints from there... cmon is right

I liked how the men were awful on both sides

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

I'm in love with Gus.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link

Gabe rather

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link

he was great

here's my review fwiw

flappy bird, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link

(The Dad from Get Out) I just thought Get Out had so much more to say about white liberalism.

-@samzorn

— Gretchen Felker-Martin (@scumbelievable) March 25, 2019

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link

I really liked this and found the way it fit together (or didn’t) really satisfying but I could definitely have done with more of the shadow family because I found them really frightening esp the husband and daughter

Elizabeth Moss’s fake devastation turning to mocking laughter - you know it’s coming, I feel like I’ve seen this so many times but the way she did it was great

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

Actually I’m not sure the devastation was fake

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

her best screen performance

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link

can we change thread title to ‘Us’

flopson, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

Film people are really into ALL CAPS TITLES idgi myself

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link

ya but in this case it’s confusing because titles only two letters so it looks like an abbrev. bothers me

flopson, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

It's just a titling convention, sheesh

Simon H., Monday, 25 March 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link

it's not tho is the thing

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

see promotional material for the film and listings.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

simon was saying what wins said. it's true that the title and thematic concerns of this movie mean that the standard titling convention creates confusion. the world's just a big ol mystery :(

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

peruse new answers and you'll see several all-caps movies and TV titles

Simon H., Monday, 25 March 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link

i realize it’s insanely pedantic ok

flopson, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link

Are we all tethered now

early to board the Buttigieg train (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:31 (five years ago) link

saw it again. decided that the ending isn’t illogical at all really, it makes the film make sense

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:44 (five years ago) link

my main take was that an excellent way to have your audience leave with a more positive impression of your film than they previously had is by sticking Les Fleurs on at the end of it

or something, Thursday, 28 March 2019 05:34 (five years ago) link

saw it tonight

flappy is nutso w/ this relentless "MAGA red jumpsuit" thing, as if jumpsuits or any red clothing items beyond transplant-protecting caps were associated with Trump

there's a broader melange of on-the-nose allusions: people wearing prison-style jumpsuits, chained and tethered and joined to each other, an underclass marked by this clothing and colour rising up

good night

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 28 March 2019 07:32 (five years ago) link

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2019 10:51 (five years ago) link

sic otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 March 2019 11:29 (five years ago) link

also on top of the excellent performances from the central cast, tim heidecker and elizabeth moss are both phenomenal in this

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 March 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link

Heidecker was born to play a murderous subterranean ape who is also somehow still just an asshole

Simon H., Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link

I don't know if I ultimately more than merely liked the movie, but there was enough going for it that I loved, important stuff, like acting and direction and score, that I'd still recommend it to someone. I mostly wished there was less explaining and more sticking to the metaphors and fairy tale motifs.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2019 04:11 (five years ago) link

I actually like it more the morning after than I did right after I saw it. Plenty of fuel for thought in this one, and I look forward to reading a bunch of think pieces. Honestly I agree that the MAGA metaphor is the most coherent one at work here (bar the unnecessary twist), but obviously there's a lot of other stuff going on as well.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link

Oh, and the uppercase US can't be a coincidence. US=U.S.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link

yeah it's not uppercase though, is the point

Number None, Friday, 29 March 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

Actually Us stands for "Universal Soldier" and the twist is this movie is in that universe

Buttigieg comes right from the source (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 March 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link

The title in the opening credits is ambiguous re: upper v lowercase.

dinnerboat, Friday, 29 March 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link

no it isn't

Number None, Friday, 29 March 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link

the allusion is obvious, but the title is written as Us in the film and every piece of promotional material

Number None, Friday, 29 March 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

Still not a coincidence, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

well they say we’re americans

flopson, Friday, 29 March 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link

Oh, and the uppercase US can't be a coincidence. US=U.S.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, March 29, 2019 10:06 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

flopson, Friday, 29 March 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link

look what you did Simon

flopson, Friday, 29 March 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

jesUs christ

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:59 (five years ago) link

justice, or just us?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 March 2019 23:17 (five years ago) link

The very beginning in the funhouse was great, and that twist at the end - which I winced at right after it happened (didn't see it but I never try to work stuff out in advance) and then it worked its way through as mirroring the kind of confusion that we find ourselves in. Until then this settled into a serviceable enough Romero-by-numbers with a hint of Haneke's Funny Games, with its play and violence in those well-off settings, but that ending hasn't yet let go.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 March 2019 23:18 (five years ago) link

Haunting. Movie will stick with me. Great performance all around.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 March 2019 06:59 (five years ago) link


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