Scott Walker. (RIP March 2019)

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And Alloa, as immortalised in Scott Walker plays for Alloa

Dan Worsley, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

So we now have Scott Walkers 1-4 and Scott Til' The Band Comes In.

Alba, Monday, 25 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link

Scott Scores Goals From His TV Series.

Don't Go Back to Brockville (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

Holy crap @ these two Ute Lemper tracks THANK YOU whoever first recommended them. These are beyond incredible

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:21 (five years ago) link

Also I really like Scott's basic latter-day songwriting "thing": put a bunch of surprising and contrasting sections in a row, then repeat them exactly (with different words), and only once. It's the most distilled form of formal minimalism: it happens, and then it happens once more, then it's over.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

Great to see people discovering those xp

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

The moment when the strings come in on Clara gives me goosebumps every time. So harrowing. RIP old man.

Fetchboy, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link

Here is an interview from the 1984

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

I'm interested to what extent his influence is still present in mainstream UK culture. Do people in the UK karaoke his shit? I would fucking love that; I went to pick up my daughter since my last post and I sang "Jackie" at the top of my lungs in the car…

It is bizarre at this point that there is nothing on this in the NYT; they clearly are asleep at the switch. Is Pareles too busy at Big Ears? It's odd to consider, but Scott is far far too rockist for Caramanica; if Thom Yorke or other 40somethings rep for anything, Caramanica turns up his nose. But Scott is right up Ratliff's alley; it would have been up at like noon if he was still there.

veronica moser, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

Fwiw Le Monde published an excellent obituary this morning.

pomenitul, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link

Er, this afternoon. Still.

pomenitul, Monday, 25 March 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

I can't remember whether it was Mixing It on R3 or Radcliffe's Hit The North on R5 where I first heard "Boychild". Summer 1990 and Fontana had just put out that compilation (savaged by Steve Sutherland in Melody Maker, while praising the Brothers' hits). That was the moment for me. I recall the strange fuss about his 3-sec appearance in that Britvic ad (which wasn't long after Climate) - as if he'd been missing for decades.

Michael Jones, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

I (a yank) learned about Scott from Roni Sarig's book The Secret History of Rock and Roll, a U.S. publication that I bought while studying abroad in England in 2001. That book introduced me to some other acts too — Serge Gainsbourg, Swell Maps, Young Marble Giants.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link

People have been posting the more difficult bits on Facebook but hearing The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore on the news was just epic.

koogs, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

i can't even process this news. have been a fan since drag city released tilt in... 1996?

maybe because SW basically started his career over several times, he seemed particularly youthful. so this really comes as a shock.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link

This morning in my room

A little swallow was trapped

It flew around desperately

Until it fell exhausted on my bed

I picked it up

So as not to frighten it

I opened the window

Then I opened my hand

The cracking voice on the last line is devastating.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link

the Joe Meek comp from 95 was my piece de resistance

oh, my partner and i bonded over this being in both of our collections. we both know all the songs by heart. it's fabulous. i've gotten several joe meek compilations (even a big box set) since and it's just too much of a good thing... the CD you put together is a perfect distillation of his work. so thank you!!!!!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link

Heartbroken.

Scott Walker was, and is, the greatest for me. My lone, and only spirit animal. We all try to hold or clutch onto things or people. For me, it was him. His presence in my life is a meandering red line stretched from playing old Walker Bros lp's of my mum that I put on the turntable when alone in the living room, curious to hear who and what were behind that corny cover; up to me echoing his dilly-dally yet incisive poetry of the latter works in my daily life.

That's a nice suit, that's a swanky suit.

There isn't a single artist that made me feel so completely at home in music, in a mind like my own, like he did. Who bridged two very different worlds - his 60s and his reinvention starting in the 80s - in which I both feel completely, utterly at home, at peace, at rest. No other musician, nor any human being, encompassed this feeling: that someone out there knows your dreams, the romance, the love, the foolishness, and - it's seems not to have been mentioned on first glance but damn - the humour! He made me feel there was someone out there I could identify with, especially in his/my growth. This is like losing a parent, in some way, for me.

A compass unlike any other. Scott Walker was my constant. And my constant he will remain.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:47 (five years ago) link

The cracking voice on the last line is devastating.

― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, March 25, 2019 11:43 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fitting. I wanted to quote this, too. It's been in my head all day since I heard the news.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link

does anyone have a link where i can read the entire le monde editorial? the version i found requires a paywall to read beyond the first few paragraphs.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link

Scope J is really immense, I think it's my favourite Scott moment from the later era and he's not even on it! I think I read in an interview that it was originally slated for his next album (which would have been The Drift) but he gave it to Ute Lemper when she asked for a song. Would have loved to have heard a Scott version of it though!

That 1984 interview posted upthread is great. It's amazing to me that it appeared not in some niche publication but in a mass circulation weekly. How times change...

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link

I forgot to mention that it is indeed behind a paywall. Sorry GG.

xp

pomenitul, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:55 (five years ago) link

One track on The Drift is very quiet, and then Donald Duck makes a guest appearance.

iirc, yelling "what's up doc?" which is actually Bugs Bunny's line!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 25 March 2019 23:20 (five years ago) link

I believe it makes the Pola X soundtrack redundant for Scott completists, too

no fuckin way man (uh, imo)

pola x sdtk has some of his most conventionally lovely cues, almost debussy-like

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 23:20 (five years ago) link

All 11 Scott pieces from the Pola X OST are on the Five Easy Pieces boxset.

Michael Jones, Monday, 25 March 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link

really? i gave the discogs page a glance and thought otherwise. sorry.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

Walker was haunted by the spectre of encroaching fascism and mass brutality in America and the history leading up to it, Tilt / Drift / Bisch Bosch were urgent on this front when no one was really talking about the subject seriously. that trilogy sounds even more terrifying now

— bernie slanders (@naxuu) March 25, 2019

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 25 March 2019 23:37 (five years ago) link

xp - still, would be interested to hear the Smog & other non-Scott stuff on that. I picked it up and put it down a few times in shops that year... was always something crazy (for 1999) like £18.99. Maybe it was only an import.

Michael Jones, Monday, 25 March 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link

Just for some levity: when singing 'Boy Child' in an impressionist's Scott-voice, I often change the line following "City after city/" with "/Had your fill with quadrilles" (from Roxy Music's 'Do the Strand').

Max Florian, Monday, 25 March 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link

i like your comments on climate of hunter and on his voice, alfred. you have more to say about this guy whose music you don't know well than many do of music they can sing backwards and forwards.

i do think this might be a bit overstated :

In Walker’s later music it would have been a principle betrayed

his music, even the later stuff, has its own sort of hooks, and he isn't afraid of a good climax if he wants one. he just hardly does so consistently. i really don't think that, as contrarian as much of his late work may seem, he was being determinedly "weird" or working systematically counter to the usual expectations. it's a cliché but i genuinely think he was just kind of following his own path.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

I always thought the line was "I opened the window / then I opened my head" and was a reference to Satie ("Ouvrez la tête")

Anyway re-listening to first-four-albums selections this morning got me in my sads again about Angela Morley also, what a fucking genius duo, the two of them

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:21 (five years ago) link

Love Angela Morley
Watership Down OST imo

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:22 (five years ago) link

i can't seem to find the link but there's a radio show from a few years ago, where jarvis cocker interviews scott for over an hour about those early records (which SW didn't often talk about) and they talk about his arrangers quite a bit. worth a listen or two.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:22 (five years ago) link

also i don't recall scott doing much press around the time of tilt (when i first discovered him), so his relative accessibility to journalists and others in the 21st century came as a pleasant surprise, as did the fact that he was a totally unpretentious and mellow dude. i gues when i first heard his music i expected him to be like an antonin artaud type or something...

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:24 (five years ago) link

xp Oooh I would love it if you could track down the link, or I'll try to

I rate Angela's work as highly as Nelson Riddle or Mary Lou Williams, she wrote effortlessly

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link

I do remember a Scott walker cover issue of the Wire I think around the time of tilt.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link

I have that issue under the bed somewhere

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:33 (five years ago) link

good wank material?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link

sorry, that was disrepectful in a RIP thread.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link

listening to "You're All Around Me" right now, hadn't locked on the Roy Orbison debt before

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link

xp
That issue had an interview with the same journalist as the 1984 interview linked upthread. It's here: https://web.archive.org/web/20130405163815/https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/scott-walker_tilting-at-windmills

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link

xpost

that's (orbison) a reference pt i hadn't thought of!

SW himself in the '60s declared himself influenced by jack jones, a name that mostly conjures up the word "huh?" now. but you can kind of hear it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EAELtJgD6A

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:42 (five years ago) link

i think walker's singing on the early records is more bombastic in the orbison mold and lacks the conversational intimacy of sinatra, who he is sometimes compared to. sinatra never wrote something like "big louise," though.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link

Sinatra didn't write, period.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:45 (five years ago) link

do you intend "bombastic" as description or criticism? Orbison's choice of approach on "It's Over," "Running Scared," "In Dreams" is appropriate to the songs he wrote.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:45 (five years ago) link

that's my point!

xpost

description, not criticism. i adore orbison and sW!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

I remember Jack Jones popping up on aging WW2-generation-friendly TV variety shows in the '60s and '70s. His dad Allan was the boring musical relief in the Marx Brothers' two best MGM movies.

With that record I mentioned I hear Orbison in the arrangement just as much.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link

yeah jack jones was one of those slightly younger guys who seemed to appeal to the greatest generation, like maybe bobby darin.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link

The Jones of "Jolson and Jones" references Jack Jones's dad Allan. It shares lyrics with Jones's Donkey Serenade

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link


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