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phew good thing I don't like Noe!! (idk what that book is)

Heh, your exceptions converge with mine. We're safe.

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 March 2019 09:31 (five years ago) link

Rushomancy- I'm not an expert on either but doesn't theatre suffer from this too?

Lars Von Trier is the only thing I listed that I actually kind of dislike but I have enjoyed some of his work.

I don't know if modern Nazis dislike abstract art (I wasn't really thinking of that, I like most kinds of drawing/painting/sculpture) but that seems like a general conservative thing to me, though obviously some conservatives love it.

I find Apocalypse Culture and its ilk interesting but cant really be bothered anymore. I heard it once described as "the book that launched a thousand fanzines".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 30 March 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link

i know nothing about theatre. i also know little about classical music - can't read, don't play, and i'm certain there are still problems that exist there, i don't want to say all the old problems have been solved - but there's at least enough for me to be encouraged!

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

I'm only wary of classical enthusiasts who poo-poo contemporary composers. (That's most of them, I guess.)

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 March 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link

dislike noe but his new one looks great :\

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link

i'm not sure how "ben shapiro is an idiot and a philistine" was taken to mean "there are no great artists who were or are fascists".

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

obviously ben shapiro is not wagner or hamsun.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link

He's Daffy Duck in the era when Daffy just existed to be pissed off by Bugs Bunny. I miss the old loony Daffy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link

ben shapiro is clearly an idiot, i don't know him or care to know him enough to judge whether or not he is a philistine.

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

He can't be a philistine - he's too stupid to have tastes, whether good or bad.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link

What a sad shame this shitbird couldn't eat his fried chicken in peace and quiet. Guess there are consequences for those that incite the harassment of parents of murdered children. Glad he is being sued and I hope the Sandy Hook parents take everything. pic.twitter.com/PkkmhKPB1a

— Vic Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) March 30, 2019

gbx, Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

Ben Shapiro is instagram influencer adjacent.

Yerac, Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link

Ben is obsessed with AOC because seeing someone nearly 6 years younger than him (who didn’t even go to Harvard) have such a massive effect on the political discourse reminds him that all his past precociousness has fizzled out and he’s basically a 35 year old youtuber. pic.twitter.com/0z3XkZmStr

— Insincere Hemingway (@theatlasofworld) March 30, 2019

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 1 April 2019 06:35 (five years ago) link

tbh, i can kind of relate.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 1 April 2019 06:36 (five years ago) link

that tweet fair point, but let's not overlook the occam's razor explanation: that aoc makes ben incredibly horny and he's v mad and confused about it

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 09:47 (five years ago) link

bg otm, she confuses a lot of the fash like that

gyac, Monday, 1 April 2019 09:54 (five years ago) link

Fascism means never having to say you're horny

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 09:56 (five years ago) link

Seems degrading to say that the reason right wingers are obsessed with AOC isn’t bc she’s a dynamic young political figure championing causes diametrically opposed to their own but bc she’s so sexy and maybe says more about you than whoever you’re claiming is blinded by her hotness.

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:04 (five years ago) link

no

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:05 (five years ago) link

I don’t think that’s quite the smoking gun you think it is.

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:09 (five years ago) link

i don't think 'no it is YOU who is the horny one!' is quite the comeback you think it is either

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:11 (five years ago) link

I admire Ben Shapiro's stance on boiling down complex issues

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:13 (five years ago) link

Conservatism means being furious, scared, and horny all at the same time pic.twitter.com/4ozTbtPphI

— Ryan Boyd (@ryanaboyd) March 14, 2019

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:15 (five years ago) link

a bold stance from mr ben 'facts don't care about your feelings' shapiro xp

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link

I agree with Mordy that arguments intended to expose the libidinous frailty of yr enemy are, at best, double-edged

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:17 (five years ago) link

claiming that her opponents find her hot is degrading to her even if you think you're safely imputing those beliefs to the opposition and not touting them yourself if you can't see that idk even if it's true (maybe especially if it's true) maybe they are obsessed with her bc she's v charismatic (aka appealing) and is promoting policies that they hate something that wouldn't reduce her to a sex object but make her like any other politician someone who is hated bc of what they stand for not bc of how they look. obama was a v handsome man but u didn't see ppl continually claiming that he was hated bc they just found him too sexy + it confused them (which is such a fucking stupid claim on its face - ben garrison is using her "sex appeal" to degrade her not bc his loins are so on fire he cannot but daydream over her visage).

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link

like give her the minimum credit that they hate her bc she is a political threat and not bc they want to fuck her

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link

Mordy OTM

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:21 (five years ago) link

like give her the minimum credit that they hate her bc she is a political threat and not bc they want to fuck her

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grawlix (unperson), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link

yeah, weird that a bunch of straight white conservative men weren't claiming that obama was too sexy, good point

aoc is a very charismatic personality who has been a tireless, and very effective, advocate for a lot of leftwing policies that have been kept out of mainstream american political thought for too long

she's also an attractive young woman who has been just as effective in rebutting a bunch of shit thrown her way by those same straight white conservative men, and i don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine that those people, who by and large expect suberservient treatment from women, have found it confusing in their bathing suit area

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time. And when the attacks on AOC has consisted of stuff like her dancing to Lisztomania, with the accompanying tweets claiming this showed she was completely incapable of being a politician, it's quite straightforward to think they drew that conclusion because they thought sexy = unpolitical. Which is basically saying their horniness confused them.

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link

i can't find it within myself to take umbrage at the implication that ben shapiro is a hypocrite of low moral character

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link

it's not about giving _her_ credit, it's about giving _them_ credit for being motivated by anything beyond personal feelings, and truthfully i don't think they deserve that credit

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:53 (five years ago) link

I...agree with Fred

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 12:55 (five years ago) link

otm xp

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link

xp about making men horny all the time?

Neil S, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link

keeping men horny and confused is just good praxis

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link

right-wing memes consistently portray AOC as a ditz (90% of them are just recycled "dumb blonde" jokes), I think Fredrik is right here

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link

They’re monsters. I think it’s inappropriate to talk about who might find her attractive and whatever though—even from the standpoint of being critical of the alt right. She isn’t inviting this kind of attention. She is just trying to be a member of congress and advocate for her constituents.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:16 (five years ago) link

She’s facing gender based attacks from the right. Period. Their psychological motivations aren’t worth discussifn.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link

It’s gross to think about and irrelevant.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link

i just assume that we're affirming fred's statement that he is constantly making men horny.

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:36 (five years ago) link

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I'm at a point in my online life where my mind is so broken I genuinely can't tell if the artist believes this is a good or bad thing pic.twitter.com/tuCfRsoSzY

— please @ me for access to my powerful brain (@ChrisCaesar) March 31, 2019

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link

There might be a bit of projection at work here too, given how the conservative movement has deployed/manipulated the sexual attractiveness of women on their side

rob, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

keeping men horny and confused is just good praxis

― Simon H., Monday, April 1, 2019 6:11 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

updating my entry for fred on my xls with this new info

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

Is Alessandra Mussolini alt-right?

pomenitul, Monday, 1 April 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link

i think being a direct descendant, and fanatical admirer of, benito mussolini makes you about as trad-right as it’s possible to be

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time.

ILX politics threads being exhibit A of this most unlikely phenomenon.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link


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