nothing like itunes/apple then.
To be fair, iTunes itself is a very powerful (even scriptable) library manager with a great UI. But payments to the artists are similarly poor of course.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 4 April 2019 11:47 (five years ago) link
itunes was becoming bloatware before I quit it, has it improved?
― what if bod was one of us (ledge), Thursday, 4 April 2019 12:34 (five years ago) link
i use Dopamine on windows, switched recently from foobar2000. both totally faultless, FLAC compatible. dunno about mac.
― meaulnes, Thursday, 4 April 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link
Depends what you define as 'bloatware' - iTunes has a lot of powerful functionality but if you don't need the library management aspect of it (scripts/filtering) or the features like remote control, then there's lighter music players around sure.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 4 April 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link
I've tried MusicBee of late and it's a great little tool. Trouble is, I'm still uploading to Google Play Music (probably futilely) and the easiest way to manage that is through iTunes, so I'm still attached to the bloody thing, like it or not.
Is Dopamine better than MusicBee, anyone know?
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link
haven't tried Dopamine but really liked Musicbee the while I used it. I switched to foobar from there for whatever reason, but the amount of tinkering around with it to get it up to the level of library management that Musicbee does "out of the box" is just nuts. Also had the impression foobar sounded better... not sure how that works exactly!
― maffew12, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link
good burn if meaulnes had said anything about itunes or apple
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 4 April 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
spotify app has become 100 percent useless for its primary function for me (commute listening) as i can no longer access my saved albums if there’s no internet connection to tap into. not sure when this happened but i remember a not-too-distant past when i didn’t have this problem
the ui does get worse and worse. sweet recent font change though
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 April 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link
Is there a reason you don't save the stuff you want to listen to offline?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 April 2019 20:35 (five years ago) link
That's weird. You've downloaded the albums, not just saved them, right?
xpost
― Alba, Thursday, 4 April 2019 20:36 (five years ago) link
that is the germane questionbut when you step back and look at it from a non-nerd perspective it sounds inane!
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
Thread by David Lowery:
Try living on $0.0038 a stream and then get back to me. https://t.co/bUVtICBfQ1— David C Lowery (@davidclowery) April 4, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link
Yes, saved is stupid Spotify terminology to anyone who has old-fashioned pre-cloud ideas of what saving means, it's true.
― Alba, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:27 (five years ago) link
That sounds like I'm being sarcastic. I genuinely think it's stupid!
― Alba, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link
"ahh you've saved it, you see, but it's not actually on your phone"whaaa
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link
You can still listen to downloaded stuff offline iirc
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link
yes but not "saved" stuff, which is a distinction that i have to say strikes me as fairly counterintuitive
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
i can *listen* to downloaded stuff offline, but i can't access the album pages offline, so if i want to, say, switch from one album to another while i'm in between stations on the train, i ... can't
and i'm pretty sure i used to be able to
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link
and these would all be saved, downloaded albums, i don't fuck around
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link
yeah, I can still see "Your Library"->"Albums" while offline
― say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link
if that's what's meant by "the album pages"
is this even with Settings > Offline mode ticked on? I use this loads cuz I have 1gb mobile data... even the app phoning home about my activity with offline tracks is a bit much
― maffew12, Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:42 (five years ago) link
if so, delete app and start again, I'd say. I got to clean house on this thing once in a while. Android that is. Windows and Linux have given me no issues
― maffew12, Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:44 (five years ago) link
If you're interested in the effect of streaming on the music industry, this is a much more informative document than a Dave Lowery rant on Twitter:
https://www.ifpi.org/downloads/GMR2019.pdf
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 5 April 2019 01:16 (five years ago) link
Am i missing something about syncing up between 2 different devices apparently supposedly playing the same queued playing list. Seems like half the time I put on my phone and its gone back to the queue from the last time I used it and sometimes it picks up the queue after the show its playing ends.Also found it getting rid of the queue I had set up whej i swapped from phone to the desktop.
― Stevolende, Friday, 5 April 2019 10:56 (five years ago) link
I've found that the queue can be dramatically different from device ti device. I've tried shuffling a large playlist on my phone, which works reasonably well. When I bump it over to the roku app the queue changes a lot because the roku app can only shuffle from a small portion of a playlist.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 April 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link
Wtf case study : Add an album to your library Playing album...oh I don’t like this song...tap the ellipsis Uncheck “like” and be told the song has been removed from my libraryGo back to album track list and it’s still there???
― calstars, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link
works for me (desktop & android app)
― what if bod was one of us (ledge), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link
― calstars, Friday, April 5, 2019 6:04 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh yeah, this happens now too, it sucks complete ass
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link
apple will make a commercial with "limit to your love" playing where person touches the little spotify heart on a track and is told about the 10k limit.
― say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link
I've been using Spotify for nearly a decade and I still don't really know what "Your Music" is. Is this the stuff you've downloaded for offline listening, or just some list of favorites? Do people listen to these huge lists on shuffle or something?
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link
It is the lists of artists, albums, and songs you like. The songs list is long and useless. The other two are nice to have.
― say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link
My workflow is: I hear a song, add it to my library/save it/like it/star it/whatever it is this week, then every so often I go through the what I've added and put them in suitable playlists. I never listen to the whole lot on shuffle.
― Alba, Friday, 5 April 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
I see. It's the that list of stuff I've accidentally + on
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
clicked
Alba flow is otm
― say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link
I stay away from the 'add to your library' functionality - be it star, heart, add to saved tracks etc - precisely because I can't work out what goes where and it seems to change all the time anyway. I just playlists, which work just fine for me.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link
my approach is an evolving mess.I did notice something recently on desktop that I'd like to see on mobile... an option in the saved Albums view to only show albums I've saved (and/or downloaded?) in full. I don't "save" any songs aside from albums because it makes the "album" view useless. For tracks, I'll throw them on a playlist instead.I'm tripping over myself now because I have some songs from saved albums on playlists that I have downloaded, making the album show up on my album view when I am in offline modeI know that if anyone would understand, it'd be y'all
― maffew12, Friday, 5 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
I'm sure this isn't an entirely new thing but it feels like it: using apps is a lot like watching modern telly programmes in that you have to surrender to them basically making shit up in front of you. Which makes me sound really old but there it is.
Fwiw, ethical implications aside, I'm still very much in the Spotify has been a total fucking revelation camp.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
Is it not really feasible for third parties to create alternative Spotify clients/front-ends?
― mick signals, Friday, 5 April 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link
in previous years i tried to track my listening with different genre playlists but some of them i'd rarely get to and managing so many different playlists was a pita so this year i just made one Best Of list and one To Listen list and now i'm hearing much more of the stuff i intend to but the To Listen list has gotten out of control it's too huge.
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
Yeah this is basically how I approach it too, my big list of favorites and my periodically rotating new music list. I have lots of other lists, but none get a fraction of the play of these two.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:47 (five years ago) link
I've gone from a to listen playlist to a to listen folder but it's terrifyingly vast - like a Borges library. Ach, the tyranny of permutations.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
In full on 'and another thing!' taxi driver mode here but why does the 'repeat' button get so much real estate? I was just looking at my CD player and thinking I've never used that button.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
Everybody otm. I think we should unionize.
― maffew12, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
One day I went to smarterplaylists.net and got all of my Discover Weekly recommendations to archive to one big playlist every week.Don't be like me.
― maffew12, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
I'm currently maintaining my digital collection with Logitech Media Server
fist bump
― mick signals, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
I’ve experienced that offline thing while commuting. Even while in offline mode, it seems to try to connect to their servers and hangs for a while. I usually get past it by selecting different tabs or closing/restarting the app.
― beard papa, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link
I guess I’ll convert all of my saved albums to playlists just for the sake of being able to edit individual songs out of the albums. Ok ok ok
― calstars, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
Salute to those still hanging in with Logitech Media Server ... I broke down and switched to Plex
― Brad C., Friday, 5 April 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link