If this isn't in the next season of Westworld, I will eat my (cowboy) hat.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 13 April 2019 11:53 (five years ago) link
instant classic
― ogmor, Saturday, 13 April 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link
this song is stupid as hell lol
― buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link
not saying it’s bad necessarily
it's obviously very stupid but it's also very good
― L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
otm
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link
Ridin' on a tractorLean all in my bladderCheated on my babyYou can go and ask herMy life is a movieBull ridin' and boobiesCowboy hat from GucciWrangler on my booty
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 April 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link
it's a very silly song, i do enjoy it tho
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 April 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link
its annoying
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 15 April 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/keith-urban-covers-lil-nas-xs-old-town-road-822449/
Keith Urban covered Old Town Road--this version is gonna chart and people are gonna lose their minds.
― to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 April 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link
Once again the white devil's stealing from the black man.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 15 April 2019 20:58 (five years ago) link
I learned about this song from the pitchfork headline about “Billy Ray Cyrus lends his outlaw cred to Old Town Road” last week and my first reaction was like, admittedly I have not been closely following the oeuvre of mr. Ray Cyrus over these past years, but did I miss something re:him being considered to have ‘outlaw cred’?
― One Eye Open, Monday, 15 April 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link
keith urban version isn't actually gonna chart lol
― dyl, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 03:23 (five years ago) link
My life is a movieBullridin' and boobies
Around that time, I had just watched that ‘Dallas Buyers Club’ movie. I just had that scene with Matthew McConaughey in my mind, I was just thinking about his lifestyle. That’s what I did for that line.
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link
The banjo sound makes it all work.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link
The creek boys remix of Old Town Road is so damn good https://youtu.be/5bXrnvt8KjU
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 April 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link
is this the first #1 song where the artist bought the beat from the producer after hearing it on youtube?
― buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
nah, desiigner found panda on YT as well
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
how bout Rihanna and the Numa Numa song
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link
lol good pt
― buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
tbf numa numa was a standalone vid, that was before youtube was a colossal force
yeah, and that was also a sample of the original song--desiigner and nas x literally purchased the backing track they heard on YT.
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
isn't the backing track just "Ghosts 34"? is it really that simple?
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
no--a dutch producer named youngkio sampled the very beginning of ghosts 34, looped it, and added trap drums
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
I think I like this. Is it ok to like this?
― brimstead, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
its not ok to like anything you fool
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
Wonder if Goldenvoice will bring this guy/song out at Stagecoach this weekend.
― DT, Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
i sing the cupcakke remix to myself all day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90aQaAfXeGs
― flopson, Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
the creek boyz remix is def worth hearing too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bXrnvt8KjU
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
this song is good i dont like any of these covers though
― ciderpress, Friday, 26 April 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
Love how a completely non-commercial Nine Inch Nails project can give Reznor/Ross an insane payday.
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 26 April 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link
c'mon the cupcakke remix is great
― flopson, Friday, 26 April 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:38 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean, "non-commercial" in that it wasn't an album with hits, but it did establish those two as like THE voice of modern ambient and they've been recruited for movie soundtrack projects that I would guess pay exponentially more than publishing on a streaming hit
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
lol the opening lines of the cupcakke remix are classic
― dyl, Friday, 26 April 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link
Whatever happened to the Young Thug remix?
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
I'm obsessed with this choreography
https://www.facebook.com/PorschaColemanOfficial/videos/10156130072335770/
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 26 April 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
That is fuckin rad
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 April 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link
IF OLD TOWN ROAD WAS A UK DRILL SONG pic.twitter.com/tCzqnp8Bp9— TMC Tré (@iamTresor) May 2, 2019
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
video is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Ov5jzm3j8
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
i love it
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
Missing one cameo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUUytUkMGO0
― dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link
Much of the contemporary pop country that I've heard seems to only be country on the basis of having been marketed as country and doesn't actually sound a goddamn thing like country to my ears so it seems like if we start challenging the designation a whole lotta 'country' folks could be unhappy about what side of the divide they'll ultimately wind up on.
― Blithering Hayseed (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
i was a little disappointed they couldn't get this dude
https://cdn1-www.musicfeeds.com.au/assets/uploads/Jimmy-Barnes-Scream-671x377.png
― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
OL --
That's an argument made since at least the 1970s, as Charles Hughes has written about. No genre is policed for genuineness than country, and no genre has been most expansive about what belongs.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
I'll refrain just this once from talking too much about a thing I know very little about (modern-day pop country, in this instance), but I'm talking more about discovering after the fact that a song without any identifiable country elements is being marketed as a country song rather than a traditionalist refusal to accept as country any song that doesn't strictly adhere to the genre's conventions.
― Blithering Hayseed (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 May 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link
is modern country "country"? maybe. do i like it? no.
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Friday, 17 May 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
old town road is fine tho
― :∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Friday, 17 May 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
the distinction is that for at least the past several years, "country" has been defined as "pop radio if rap didn't exist." take something like "The Fighter" by Keith Urban and Carrie Underwood, or Jordan Davis' "Singles You Up" (ugh, the title)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 17 May 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
(and I know people will come in here and say "oh but Sam Hunt likes Drake" or whatever, but he isn't Drake, which is the whole point)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 17 May 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
hell we all were
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:34 (three months ago) link
weren't there a bunch of old 60s farts in the 80s charts too?
― Left, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:39 (three months ago) link
grace slick for example
― Left, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:40 (three months ago) link
Take a look at the 1986 rundown I linked to.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:42 (three months ago) link
The whole “we are at the end of history” shit is tedious post-leftist reactionary podcast runoff imho, no offense to anyone who got bamboozled
Cf https://t.co/IFFIFDFBW5
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:46 (three months ago) link
I mean specifically when used to address present pop culture conditions, obv, although the parallels with a now-30 year old Fukuyama argument are intentional
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:47 (three months ago) link
but think how embarrassing it would be to know the difference between some awful dubstep pop monstrosity and the Chainsmokers, or the difference between any of the “stomp clap hey” bands of the early teens
Knowledge is never embarassing and I assure you my database for 1950-2005 holds plenty that is equally terrible.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:50 (three months ago) link
My instinct is that most ppl in our age range are simply not aware of what kids are listening to - that kids no longer consume the most popular pop music from a charting pov primarily, that they, much adults, have favorite artists from a wide range of tiers of success, underground favs, poptimist favs, “mid” etc
Big trends in popular streaming music include regional Mexican music, country music, r&b, amapiano, rap as always, super fast dance music most kids associate with video games rather than Frankie knuckles or Kevin Saunderson, etc
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:51 (three months ago) link
*much like adults
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:52 (three months ago) link
Oh yea they also listen to lots of phonk (Eastern European teens making 90s Memphis rap into dance music) and increasingly Brazilian variants of such
Well I don’t know how much kids are listening to amapiano specifically but afropop still streams. It does feel more adult oriented
Replace with kpop or whatever
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:54 (three months ago) link
― Left, Tuesday, January 16, 2024 9:39 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I know. I was responding to this:
I noticed this a lot with 80's and 90's totp reruns, not just stuff that adults could enjoy but also tons of older artists still hitting the top4 on the regular, Tina Turner, Rod Stewart, Phil Collins ofc. I do see a lot of headlines about veteran artist x topping the album charts these days but I think they're safely siloed off from the hot100.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:59 (three months ago) link
not to speak for dyl, but I didn’t take dyl’s comment (or this convo) to involve “what kids are listening to” on the dl, as much as “pop music” on the most mainstream level (Top 40 and such)…
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:01 (three months ago) link
(I mean I wish I were cool enough that when I said the narrow slice of pop music that I love is better than ever, I was referring to something marginal or obscure… but I ain’t)
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:02 (three months ago) link
can we talk about Falco some more in here
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:07 (three months ago) link
this is frogbs calling
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:09 (three months ago) link
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, January 16, 2024 9:01 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yea but per Tim’s comment, plus my own, I don’t think top 40 measures what top 40 measured before
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:00 (three months ago) link
I’m not sure teens were listening to all those Diane Warren chart toppers in the 90s either.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link
The Aerosmith and Toni Braxton ones for sure.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:18 (three months ago) link
Yeah I didn't take it to be about "measuring" as much as the quality of what is right there in front of us, where it's always been (also, I mean, Duo Lipa is actually v popular)
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:41 (three months ago) link
(not popular enough that I know how to spell her name apparently.. lol)
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:44 (three months ago) link
fwiw, the "the good shit is over here now" line doesn't conflict w/dyl's argument, either
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:52 (three months ago) link
That whole “algorithms are taking over pop” thing felt true to me, at least to a certain extent, in the 2010s, but not now. Plus *smug benevolent father figure face* I have loads of conversations with actual young people about music (bcz DJing) and no two people are the same in terms of what they’re into and why; their knowledge and range, particularly with lyrics, regularly staggers me. I’ve also noticed more awareness from 30+ people about new/current pop. But I’m UK, so maybe it’s different elsewhere.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:08 (three months ago) link
I sometimes think you folks sometime just make up genres to fuck with me.
Like, are y'all into Blompcore? Smoosh-rap? Flomp-hop? Trip-trap?
In the 90s my friends and I used to invent indie acts and nonexistent labels, because there was no central source of truth. Haven't you heard of The Baby Wipes? They started out on the Rectal Snot label, in Portland. But then they totally sold out when they signed with Megascope.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:22 (three months ago) link
related, my friends in freshman year of college had a fake band called The Storm Petrels. we even made trucker hats with their name
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:26 (three months ago) link
i recall years ago on here when some of us pretended that Denny Lethargy made an album with Sonny Sharrock (the two never actually collaborated.)
― omar little, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:27 (three months ago) link
I really dug the Storm Petrels' first EP, Promising Debut.
But I was not into their second release, Disappointing Followup.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link
did adult contemporary just kinda disappear?
I feel like nowadays there's less room for the David Foster-esque pop
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:48 (three months ago) link
Taylor Swift is effectively adult-contemporary now
― the new drip king (DJP), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:53 (three months ago) link
We've got an A/C station here -- the cross-campus shuttle blasts it. I'll hear the softer '80s and '90s, stuff like Taylor Swift and Sam Smith and the Fray.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:54 (three months ago) link
ours really leaned into the Elton John/Dua Lipa mashup
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:00 (three months ago) link
That's Tycho now
― octobeard, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:37 (three months ago) link
The Clear Channel A/C station in Houston made a hard pivot from Easy Listening (Bolton, David Foster stuff etc.) to "Uptempo Classics To Get You Through Your Workday", which ranges from '70s Disco hits to six month-old Pop hits (I found this interesting that they never played anything brand new), and generally leave the Easy stuff to Delilah's syndicated show in the evenings.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link
DUa Lipa gets played on the A/C station here too. But then she gets played everywhere.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:04 (three months ago) link
Plus there's that Argylle thing about to hit in a couple of weeks.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:14 (three months ago) link
Speaking of which – OMG, Swifties: https://variety.com/2024/film/news/taylor-swift-argylle-author-matthew-vaughn-rumors-1235873834/
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:19 (three months ago) link
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:41 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
and im saying some people are just old and 'whats in front of you' is different than what was in front of you at 16
but also — and I think this point is being underestimated—I think more people than ever are *invested in* underground, mid tier, non-pop music, than might have been in the 12-CD-fan days. The 12-CD fan of the 90s now has their own Spotify playlist of stuff that might actually include some relatively obscure act—that act just happens to sound like the 12-CD popular level act they already like.
The point I'm making is that everyone's fandom has shifted, to a stage where being a 'casual music' fan by its nature includes liking some 'not that popular' shit
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:22 (three months ago) link
so when I say that what the pop charts are 'measuring' is different, its not just the pop charts ... the very meaning of obscurity or underground is different ... the entire framework of experiencing 'new music' is different..and I think suggesting this is just a continuation of how things used to be is missing how different things really are
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:23 (three months ago) link
OK but I didn't think we were talking about the "charts" here (thread title aside)
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:26 (three months ago) link
I think what's being exposed to some extent is how retro pop music *always* was ... something like the modern milwaukee rap song sounds 'brand new' to most ears, but its actually based on the 'low end' sound which existed in 2010 or earlier and was just off-board for online music fans... likewise peso pluma sounds new to ppl who don't listen to narcocorridos and its a 'new sound' in the pop space but not a new sound if you listened to popular mexican music for years ... so ppl can marshal this information to make any argument they want, ie "everything is retro now!!!" [spaceman meme] it always was
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:28 (three months ago) link
there's nothing new about the birth of hip hop ... this is just pigmeat markham all over again smh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRS62nccwmw
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:30 (three months ago) link
teenagers absolutely were listening to diane warren ballads in the 90s
as a distinctive style, yes it is basically endangered. the vast majority of songs on the ac airplay chart are songs that were on the pop airplay chart months before -- so the chart is basically the more milquetoast subset of the pop chart, which is itself boring/stagnant. this past year the exceptions were from artists like p!nk, nsync and lewis capaldi but none were particularly big in general or even at the ac format. there are also a few new christmas songs that come along every year, but during that time the audience reach of new songs at the format declines precipitously bc the playlists lean even more heavily on old songs than usual during that time -- new christmas songs take years to properly break. (there was one by david foster this year!)
― dyl, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:21 (three months ago) link
anyway the way pop music operates (specifically in america!) absolutely is different now than it used to be, yes i am getting old but the differences are measurable and consistent at least if we're talking abt radio. and yes, shame on me for still paying attention to that hoary old distribution method but i do see it as unfortunate as there are aspects to the radio-listening experience that i do think are unique compared to just clicking thru social media or playlists. i legitimately enjoyed mainstream radio for at least a decade of my life and am sad that most stations in this country seem to think that those aspects simply can no longer be replicated (even tho other radio in other countries still manages it)
― dyl, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:26 (three months ago) link