Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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I think he just added to an existing scandal, somebody that most people thought was guilty was freed in 2008 or thereabouts and then supposedly utterly exonerated about a decade later amongst a series of abuses of the Presidential pardon.

Stevolende, Saturday, 13 April 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

"Bette Davis Eyes" (by Kim Carnes) is a cover.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

what the hell, crypto! Never knew there was an original out there either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAQsOJbs-yo

Careful playing this. I blacked out and woke up inside the town square's gazebo.

pplains, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link

just found out that status quo's - arguably best known - song "rockin' all over the world" is a cover

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

Bette Davis Eyes" (by Kim Carnes) is a cover.

― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:52 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark

this is also new to me

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

Same, Kim Carnes version is far superior though.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

Rockin' All Over the World is a John Fogerty song innit?

Stevolende, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link

xp

Agreed, the Carnes version is gorgeous; the DeShannon sounds like a it was intended as album filler.

I like this tidbit, from Wiki, though:

Actress Bette Davis, then 73 years old, wrote letters to Carnes, Weiss, and DeShannon to thank all three of them for making her "a part of modern times," and said her grandson now looked up to her. After their Grammy wins, Davis sent them roses as well.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link

Rockin' All Over the World is a John Fogerty song innit?

― Stevolende, Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:11 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, id never heard it

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

Count me among the number who had no idea about 'Bette Davis Eyes'.

I'm sure the Bacharach poll is eliciting more than a few double takes among those who are just now realizing (as I did only a couple years back when I heard the Warwick version) that 'Always Something There to Remind Me' is also a cover.

whoa about the carnes being a cover, before internets musical provenance was a ~mystery~ (esp if you were a kid).

Hunt3r, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

Rockin' All Over the World original is 10x better than the Quo's piss-poor effort. 'In The Army Now' is a cover too, which I only found out recently.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

Yep, the original is by the Dutch Bolland brothers, who also produced and co-wrote Falco’s “Rock Me Amadeus”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_6TT0YCFc

breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link

so of the quo singles I've ever heard only pictures of matchstick men and whatever you want are originals. my god. i actually like the former

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link

just now realizing (as I did only a couple years back when I heard the Warwick version) that 'Always Something There to Remind Me' is also a cover.

Which of the 972 versions did you not realise was a cover?

blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link

from a personal point of view i don't consider versions of a song written by a songwriter but not originally performed by them to be covers

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

they're just versions to me

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

xxpost The one that was huge on '80s pop radio and MTV and commercials, da-doy.

since everybody around the world obviously knows which one that was, let's all enjoy it here

blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

That isn't quite what I had in mind, let me think for a sec, which version is the one I meant, oh here it is: [PICTURE OF MY MIDDLE FINGER]

thread purpose seems to be "why didn't I know this before, it's crucial/obvious/I should have known," right?

realizing that a cover version that was ubiquitous in your youth was not the original, but was also widely covered, seems to be a bullseye on the thread purpose and I'm not sure why we're pointing and acting like admitting ignorance on a thread for that purpose is a zing

mh, Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link

mh was shockingly old when he realized that sic is a wiseacre know-it-zll.

there was no snark in my question btw - America honestly isn't the entire world, and growing up in the '80s this was a Bacharach song that middle-aged people would sing on variety shows. I wasn't and am still not aware of a ubiquitous MTV version, so had no way of knowing that simply asking a polite on-topic question would be taken as offensive

so in a way, I guess I have been otm in this thread

blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(There's)_Always_Something_There_to_Remind_Me#Naked_Eyes_version

I learned today it charted higher in Australia than in the US! :)

mh, Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link

I've only heard that version since moving to canada. wiki says it didn't chart in the uk so that checks out

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link

fyi the snarky part was "of the 972 versions"? I get it's something to snark on because there are a shitload of covers, but it comes off as "you dummy, this has a zillion covers, why would you think you were hearing the original" when obviously OL hadn't been exposed to or didn't remember hearing other ones

mh, Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

I learned today it charted higher in Australia than in the US! :)

ha! I guess I've heard it before, those syndrums have a tiny dash of proust, but I'd bet it just prompted the radio station to which my parents listened to play Dionne Warwick and Jose Feliciano

I only saw two music videos prior to 1987 iirc

blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link

fyi the snarky part was "of the 972 versions"?

hmm okay but it's not "DUH you should have known because of the 972 versions of this song by a songwriter OL YOU GIANT DUMMY," it's "ooh, how about a little more context for those of us who know this as a song by a songwriter, OL, you l'il dickens"

blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

fair

mh, Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link

vincent gallo and vincent cassel are not the same person

groovemaaan, Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link

America honestly isn't the entire world

I was shockingly old when etc.

(It's not unusual to see sic and I giving one another the business, all in good fun and with a refreshing lightness of heart.)

(At least that's my take. Could be that he'd love to sock my nose.)

mea culpa, I've had a week

mh, Thursday, 18 April 2019 23:22 (five years ago) link

fuck you mh

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 19 April 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

going to assume I’m getting better at reading tone and that was in jest

mh, Friday, 19 April 2019 01:40 (five years ago) link

"Didn't know it was a cover" topic incomplete without Tainted Love btw

moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 April 2019 09:03 (five years ago) link

just now realizing (as I did only a couple years back when I heard the Warwick version) that 'Always Something There to Remind Me' is also a cover.

What, you mean the Sandie Shaw song?

Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Friday, 19 April 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link

"Didn't know it was a cover" topic incomplete without Tainted Love btw

― moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, April 19, 2019 10:03 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Gloria Jones surviving the crash that killed Marc Bolan is the tidbit that always connects to that isn't it?

Stevolende, Friday, 19 April 2019 10:45 (five years ago) link

this one was pretty surprising to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ5OtnBdcWw

Number None, Friday, 19 April 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link

I didn't keep much vinyl but I do still have a Sandie Shaw record that the song is on. It's my favorite version.

Yerac, Friday, 19 April 2019 13:52 (five years ago) link

Bette Davis Eyes, Always Something There, and Ray of Light being covers is kind of blowing my mind right now.

joygoat, Friday, 19 April 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link

Ha, the Sandie Shaw version charted higher than the Naked Eyes version in Canada acc to Wikipedia (#1 vs #9). I don't think I ever thought of the Naked Eyes version as the original tbh, although you do hear it more these days.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

had a similar "bette davis eyes" moment a year or so ago with "the crying game." have always loved boy george/pet shop boys version and had no reason not to assume it was the og.

andrew m., Friday, 19 April 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

I've never even heard of Naked Eyes, so I guess I was shockingly old when I learnt that Americans have an '80s version of 'Always Something There...' that they think of as the original. (And apparently it's a British band one of whom went on to be half of Climie Fisher?)

emil.y, Friday, 19 April 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

I have news for y'all about "Red Red Wine"

moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link

Meanwhile Promises Promises, while NOT a cover version, is the most blatant ABC pastiche imaginable.

dan selzer, Friday, 19 April 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

holy cow at Ray of Light

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link

I've never even heard of Naked Eyes

Ditto.

Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Friday, 19 April 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link

unperson was a nihilistic teenager.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 April 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link

I didn't know that Toni Basil's "Mickey" and Blondie's "Hanging On The Telephone" were covers up until a couple of years ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 19 April 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link


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