Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JubjVCwr_PU

just fyi

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/25/andrew-cuomo-plans-to-open-formidable-fundraising-network-to-joe-biden.html

Joe Biden is planning to roll out his campaign at an event filled with GOP donors and corporate lobbyists. https://t.co/7cKYcbfbpy

— The Intercept (@theintercept) April 25, 2019

how fast could i get banned from this website if i endorsed joe biden? i think it might be a good self-care move for me.

put forth a consistent, good-faith argument for handsy joe and I'm sure you'll see, bud

FP'd for your health, salud

the guy who eulogized Strom Thurmond is here to talk to us about countering right-wing extremists. very cool!!

thinkpiece about how Biden is Andrew Ridgeley to Obama's George Michael and this presidential campaign is his Son Of Albert

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/Andrew_Ridgeley_Son_of_Albert_album_art.JPG

prob just vote for someone else and focus energy on being positive about their characteristics idk anything else seems unconstructive and possibly contributory to toxic american political discourse idk

These ppl agree with you

“I’ve definitely had clients ask, where is Biden?” said Kim Monk, the managing director at Capital Alpha, which advises Wall Street investors from Washington, DC. “He’s basically an establishment candidate and would be much more in tune to building on what’s there as opposed to coming in and destroying what’s there and starting over.”

One analyst told investors amid a mild market freakout over single-payer the other day, as Axios reported: “How could the news get better? Biden wins the Democratic nomination without changing his current view against single payer.”

Industry lobbyists aren’t certain Biden will win. One Democratic health care lobbyist grimly predicted to me Sanders would take the Democratic nomination. A trade association leader brought up Biden’s two previous failed presidential bids. But they finally have a candidate in their corner with the profile to battle Sanders and single-payer.

https://www.vox.com/2019/4/26/18515699/joe-biden-2020-presidential-campaign-medicare-for-all

One Democratic health care lobbyist grimly predicted to me Sanders would take the Democratic nomination.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLYU7HUCQAE5k8t.jpg

NY mag headline:

Biden Boasts Strong Support From Unions, Union Busters

Biden doing break after break on The View The Political View rn, an extended performance piece of Just Not Getting It

In his first sit-down interview of his presidential campaign, Joseph R. Biden Jr. on Friday repeatedly declined to directly apologize to Anita Hill for his handling of the 1991 Clarence Thomas hearings, instead delivering a broad statement of remorse for how she was treated during the combative questioning she faced from an all-male Senate committee that he led.

Appearing on ABC’s “The View,” which is heavily watched by women, Mr. Biden was asked by one of its hosts, Joy Behar, about his reluctance in recent months to offer a straightforward apology to Ms. Hill for his own judgment and leadership during the hearings. Ms. Behar suggested that Mr. Biden should say, “I’m sorry for the way I treated you, not for the way you were treated.”

“I’m sorry for the way she got treated,” Mr. Biden responded. “If you go back to what I said, and didn’t say, I don’t think I treated her badly.”

“Since I had publicly apologized for the way she was treated,” Mr. Biden said, “I didn’t want to, quote, invade her space,” by calling her privately.

still making dumb jokes to signal to non #metoo voters that he actually doesn't give a shit

go back to your different time, joe

https://www.theonion.com/tag/joseph-biden

lol at Dokken History month

a comment on LGM:

This is the reading that I have of one aspect of Biden's popularity. There were many times in the 2016 election that I thought that HRC was in many ways the perfect opponent for Trump to run against -- on so many levels, he could target her in ways that she couldn't respond effectively to. The most awful of these, naturally, was the way that she couldn't call him out for his loathsome behaviour towards women, because she's married to Bill Clinton. Anything she said there would have been greeted with howls of "Oh No she DIDN'T!" from the imbeciles who write for the public. This ate away at the heart of her campaign, which should have been a celebration of women and their increasing power in American politics.

I guarantee you Trump wants to run against a woman again, someone who he can tease and bully. I guarantee you that a lot of people understand that, maybe not intellectually, but emotionally; a lot of the trauma of the 2016 election isn't from Trump's victory, but from the slow-motion wave of bullshit that we could see engulfing Clinton, and understanding why she couldn't fight back against it. It is just a plain fucking fact (I think) that the psycho-sexual hangups of Americans give a man more space to return fire.

Now, I don't know how to deal with that; I don't consider it an argument for choosing Biden. But I do consider it an argument for laying off his voters.

There is a lot of truth to that

I don’t think employers should lay off their workers just because they support biden though. Too far

Also this:

a) There are a lot of Dem voters who are Democrats because they're good people, not because they have an ideology that brings them to the left beyond that. They believe in fairness and good government and that racism and sexism and discrimination of all types is wrong. But they also aren't really interested in socialism, think that a lot of our societal problems could be fixed if you just had people working in good faith to come up with some decent regulations or programs to "help people out". Those folks are all going to gravitate towards a Biden candidacy.

b) There are a lot of Dem voters who just want sanity to reign again. Things were more sane under Obama, Biden is a direct link to Obama, let's get Biden into office and we'll have sanity again. It's cargo-cult voting in many cases - they don't think about the wider implications of their vote, they just know last time they voted in a particular way that worked and they want to replicate that feeling.

c) There are a lot of Dem voters who have decided post 2016 that the country isn't ready for anything other than an old white guy yet. Obama moved the ball down the field but then we got Trump so it's time to fall back and elect an old white guy to office so we can regroup. Sanders is too far left for those types of voters, but Biden is kind of perfect. If they think that the problem is that voters in midwestern states are spooked by too much progressivism, then Biden should be able to calm them down because he's not very progressive. A perfect fit!

(My irritation with these groups feels like it should have a name. IMO the first two groups don't think deeply enough about politics, and the last group thinks too deeply and thinks their feelings and intuition about the process are actual facts rather than feelings and intuition.)

These comments don't represent my own views; however, last night at my watering hole I got into an argument with a truculent gay Jewban who has no patience for "fucking social justice warriors" and was relieved that "Joe" had entered the race. His best friend, who flirted with me and got my FB name as a consolation, stopped me from wringing the dude's neck, especially after I said, "If you direct your energy toward reforming your boring attitudes instead of complaining about millennials we'd get somewhere."

why were you hanging out with Bret Easton Ellis?

Whats LGM?

I think we should lay off the voters for all of the candidates!

I still think Bidens 'popularity' is residual and overstated, and nowhere near equipped to survive the primaries. Biden can only win with media/establishment support and it doesn't seem like he's their choice

Sanders isn't Bidens problem, Kamala, Pete, Beto and the rest are

He’s popular because people want Obama back and an end to the nationalist trauma. Answer b in alfred’s quoted thing

Lawyers, Guns & Money -- Scott Lemieux's blog.

no one is casting votes for like eight months. there's plenty of time to go over everyone with extreme prejudice. THEN we can worry about the voters.

NY mag headline:

Biden Boasts Strong Support From Unions, Union Busters

lollll this is so perfect

news from the field: my uncle (a white octogenarian in vegas who was a big bernie supporter in 2016) posted an article critical of biden and a lot of older honkies are saying biden is the best choice to beat trump. best comment: biden can unite the dems by selecting a millennial VP.

in other news, when will these cantankerous old fucks die???????????????

NEW: Joe Biden didn't support net neutrality when he was a senator. Now, his first act as a declared candidate for president is going to be attending a fundraiser held by Comcast's top lobbyist. https://t.co/EME4dCSofT

— Sludge (@Sludge) April 23, 2019

uh, he kind of... sucks?

I was on the fence, but this thread has convinced me: Joe Biden is one of the less good candidates!

there may be two or three better ones even!

Biden is not my favorite of the Dem candidates but the idea I have seen floated by people i see on FB -- that a Biden administration would be "essentially the same" as a second Trump term -- is poisonously, depressingly, offensively absurd

True; Biden would get far fewer judges confirmed.

I know you're joking, but even that would make a massive difference :)

Biden is a guy who almost literally has done nothing as an adult but hold elective office. What’s impressive about him is that he was great at holding a Senate seat in a tiny state — he got a total of 116,000 votes when he won his first Senate term — and at playing the role of Ed McMahon to Obama’s Johnny Carson for eight years. Absent his popular role as Obama’s goofy sidekick during the Before Time, his 2020 candidacy would be completely preposterous on its face.

There are certainly things to admire about Biden, starting with how he got himself elected to the U.S. Senate despite having done basically nothing impressive in his life to that point. Of course this also makes Biden a kind of poster boy for a certain type of white privilege of an extreme sort: you pretty much have to be an egomaniacal white guy to think, at age 29, with a track record consisting of not much more than gentleman’s Cs at obscure universities, that what the US Senate needs at this moment is me.

And it’s admirable that Biden was able to overcome a horrible personal tragedy immediately after winning that election (his wife and one-year-old daughter were killed in a car crash in December of 1972).

He also seems to have spent his whole pre-2017 career not cashing in on his political fame, which is an increasingly rare virtue in our political class (He does seem to have given a number of six-figure fee speeches since then though).

If he gets the nomination, I will of course support his candidacy with unambiguous enthusiasm (Again, Donald Trump is president of the United States). But the fact that he’s the frontrunner in the polls for the nomination at this point is hopefully just an artifact of our very strange moment in American politics.

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2019/04/joe-biden

1) Watching you go down in flames
2) Seeing you leave public life
3) Having crows rip out your hair plugs pic.twitter.com/UMA8UGC0y9

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) April 28, 2019

it's weird that the person next to joe is encouraging everyone to take the survey at the same time that joe is speaking

fuckin’ speech bubbles, how do they work

I dread the prospect of Joe Biden winning the nom and hope he gets clobbered

all the ad hominem bile though, who has enough left over to spend on this guy?

kids are in cages ffs

I dread the prospect of Joe Biden winning the nom and hope he gets clobbered

You hope he gets clobbered now, not if he gets the nomination, I trust. At that point I'd vote for a rotten egg in shit if it means getting rid of Trump.

yeah that's my point

luckily he has a lot of time to get clobbered and many angles to get clobbered from

less luckily he is going to outraise everyone else two to one (at minimum)

anyway he's a Joe Biden—not a Joe Lieberman, not a Joe Manchin

At that point I'd vote for a rotten egg in shit

habit left over from 2016

I'm With Egg in Shit

habit left over from 2016

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius),

in Swingin' Florida the menu options are limited.

less luckily he is going to outraise everyone else two to one (at minimum)

Don't actually think this is true. The big donors will give him a certain amount of money, but I think a surprising number of them will lean toward Harris.