Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

The big donors will give him a certain amount of money, but I think a surprising number of them will lean toward Harris.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson),

I'm not sure I'd go as far as 'surprising' but agree with this. Harris is safer bet than Biden for stopping Bernie. Depends what Mayor Pete does too, he's already knocked Beto Biden Jr out of the way

I can see Biden beating Trump in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, the three states that cost Hillary the election. That, combined with Trump's unprecedented unpopularity (there's a new poll showing that 55% of overall voters - and 62% percent of women - say they will definitely not vote for him in 2020), is an argument for him. I still don't want him to be the candidate, because he's a blockhead with shitty positions. But he...could...win.

Any Dem could win if white people would get their shit together.

Pittsburgh: "Middle class is not a number, it's a values set!"

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I can see Biden beating Trump in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, the three states that cost Hillary the election. That, combined with Trump's unprecedented unpopularity (there's a new poll showing that 55% of overall voters - and 62% percent of women - say they will definitely not vote for him in 2020), is an argument for him. I still don't want him to be the candidate, because he's a blockhead with shitty positions. But he...could...win.

Agree with all this, but the bigger donors are more bothered about stopping Bernie (and maybe Warren if it came to it) than Trump, which is why I think you're right in saying Kamala will be ultimately be the beneficiary of that, not Biden

no one knows who can beat who where. it's all just random.

time is a flat circle

I turn on MSNBC before switching to Netflix and, sweet baby Jesus, Nicole Wallace and her chant of the ever-circling skeletal family devoted all of four minutes to praising Elizabeth Warren for not just knowing more policy than any candidate but being "electric" in a room.

wait, why is trump's severe unpopularity an argument for biden specifically?

he could make inroads in wisconsin or something bc he is folksy

it's just random guessing

not sure its an argument for him maybe just against being yknow *too* cunty about him on the offchance youll be voting for him in a few months

I can see Biden beating Trump in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, the three states that cost Hillary the election. That, combined with Trump's unprecedented unpopularity (there's a new poll showing that 55% of overall voters - and 62% percent of women - say they will definitely not vote for him in 2020), is an argument for him. I still don't want him to be the candidate, because he's a blockhead with shitty positions. But he...could...win.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, April 29, 2019 3:59 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol. deems got dazzed

im not agreeing with that!

so biden's emotional openness--how he is very into being vulnerable in public, speaking about his personal tragedies, etc--seems phony and unctuous to a lot of people but i think he's betting it's the thing that will set him apart, especially in comparison to trump.

not sure its an argument for him maybe just against being yknow *too* cunty about him on the offchance youll be voting for him in a few months

eight months and up! now is absolutely the time to be cunty! he literally just announced!

i think that's a bigger part of his brand than appealing to midwesterners or being anti-pc or whatever this time around. in a frightening era of ideology he is just a guy and seemingly a pretty nice one. also, refreshingly not that smart.

I think Trϵϵship is otm

His speech this afternoon for those fire fighters wasn't a strong moment -- he sounded querulous, his voice almost cottoned in that manner familiar to anyone who's dealt with a senior. My mom, who turned seventy last September, is starting to suffer from minor memory lapses. This man is almost eighty.

i think his botox and fillers and stuff looks pretty good though, honestly. not too obvious.

the most stirring endorsement he is likely to receive on ILX

biden's emotional openness
also, refreshingly not that smart

good luck usa etc

i am not at all against minor cosmetic procedures to be clear -- wasn't a diss. if i look like that when i'm 77 i'll be happy.

to be extra clear though, he would be a disaster, as would any candidate that isn't bernie or warren. we need someone who thinks structurally.

seeing him speak I agree with Alfred, I'm scared of him being the candidate

honestly I do feel somewhat the same way about Bernie too for that matter, although he seems like he has more on the ball

I really don't want to see someone that old in office

i admit it's kind of weird that we have these candidates who are like at the upper end of the human life expectancy

bernie is an idea as much as he is a candidate though. a bernie victory (and also a warren victory) would just mean something very powerful because they've been so uncompromising. a buttigieg or a kamala, even with a super-bernie platform, just wouldn't mean the same thing

I have no fucking idea what Harris, Buttigieg or Beto would do in office and neither does anyone else (aside from "mainstream" corp satisfaction). It's their brand. lol platforms

I solemnly pledge to use my privilege to be cunty about Biden for at LEAST eight months

the geriatric fuckstick

a buttigieg or a kamala, even with a super-bernie platform, just wouldn't mean the same thing

The main problem with these guys is, anything they pay lip service to from a bernie-style platform or agenda, its not credible. The 'pivot for general' is part of the deal

One positive about Biden running is it kind of blocks Howard Schultz for a while. Not that I think he'll make a difference, but the longer he or any other balloon is blocked the better

also, refreshingly not that smart.

are you uh aware that the current president of the united states of america literally has brain worms

no no you dont understand the good is actually a deadly enemy of the perfect in this tweet i shall

Really hope it's not going to be Biden, but worth pointing out that even if he wins, he is running on a public option, and that's honestly a big win for the left.

pivot to general

Obama supported single payer at one time. A politician supporting a single position whilst running for office is not in itself anything to feel good about

was gonna say

Sure, but a politician supporting a single position he can never get passed into law anyway isn't necessarily something to feel good about either.

Take the win now and then, is what I'm saying

Civilty Czar Alyssa Milano says its a mistake to focus on policies, and whats most important are values and being a good role model. Need to stop attacking the candidates and get behind Biden

Pretty surprised as I'd have thought Mayor Pete would fit that better, but presumably she'll shift to him later on. Some of these candidates are fairly interchangeable and this is Bidens turn in spotlight, not sure who is next

I think it's Biden from here on out

Take the win now and then, is what I'm saying

a win which simply upholds the status quo is a loss

after Trump, what status quo?

Biden supporting a public option is not the status quo

"a buttigieg or a kamala, even with a super-bernie platform, just wouldn't mean the same thing"

it wouldn't mean the same thing but it a Buttigieg win would mean something. I know he's centrist by today's standards based on the policies he's articulated. That said, I think it would be incredibly meaningful to gay youth of the US to have a gay man in office. It would be as important a win as Obama was for the african american community.

i don't give a fuck about Imperial Mgr being a role model

they'll stil lall drown in 50 years

lol I saw that Alyssa Milano stuff retweeted, what a load of shit

That said, I think it would be incredibly meaningful to gay youth of the US to have a gay man in office.

a gay man in office who wasn't a former mckinsey ghoul who signed up for military service in the year of our lord two thousand and nine would be preferable