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otm, I wonder where they turned to for insurance...

rob, Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

The thing is, every time I read a descriptor of any of the characters in this story, and it reads like

Taylor calls himself a “white advocate” and has written that “When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western civilization — any kind of civilization — disappears."

I just want to take baseball bats to these people. They aren't "prodigal sons", they are white supremacists shielded by white privilege. They regret nothing except they got caught. They are a huge part of the reason why this world is so sick and wrong, and I won't shed a tear of sadness for anything they suffer until, at least, every POC in prison on non-violent drugs charges is free.

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

i get absolutely zero indication (from anything in this article) that she truly gives af about her associations and actions beyond how it's affected her bottom line monetarily and psychologically.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

anyhow, kudos to Gray for really digging into these networks, how weirdly incestuous and unconventional they are while having such outsized impact.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

she can burn for all I care, how about fewer profiles on these pieces of shit once they realize they've ruined their lives and more pieces outing them for the disgusting wastes of flesh that they are

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

baseball bats otm, in other words

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

why was she fired from breitbart for the tweet about muslims and not that mcdonald's tweet? the latter made me feel more enraged

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

probably timing

the late great, Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

it's probably boring "narratively" to cover people who have been quietly being decent and operating from a baseline of empathy and fighting the good fight vs profiling those who were "once" gleeful monsters and sociopaths and who have now returned to the light, so i guess i'm not surprised that she's getting this piece with nicely fashioned photos of her looking contrite and prim. but obv i don't trust that this is genuine beyond a fear at being unemployable in the future and having a strong dislike for those she feels betrayed her. it seems like a quick turn from

omar little, Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

the article is kind of interesting in revealing how someone ends up going down that path.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

This tweet comes in the middle of an interesting thread which is worth reading in full, but it stands out:

I tweeted a few months ago that every GOP politician is at most three handshakes away from a Nazi. I wasn't joking. It wasn't hyperbole.

— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) May 2, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

"I am very concerned with your racially-tinged tweets, the fact that most of the American Nazi Party members follow you and commune with you, and the fact that most of the Ku Klux Klan accounts follow you and do the same. What is going on here?”

“WTF,” Bannon wrote back within minutes. “Katie call me ASAP.”

“I think you are a white supremacist. Am I correct?” Darby wrote. “He is not a parody account at all and you know it.”

“Brandon stop,” Bannon responded.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

As McHugh recalls it, Bannon looked at Saucier, sizing him up. He asked, “Who do you work for? Peter?” referring to Brimelow. Saucier, smiling, said no. Bannon said, “Far to the right, right?” Saucier responded in the affirmative. “AmRen? American Renaissance?” Saucier said, “Yes, sir,” and Bannon put his hand on his shoulder and said, “Well, we’re all fighting the same fight.”

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

Darby fucking sucks too

this is otm

The notion that the alt-right is some kind of foreign body infecting the mainstream conservative movement rather than a natural outgrowth from it implies a large substantive difference between the ideas quoted here and the ideas above. I can't find one. https://t.co/h6JYAVXkAJ

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) May 2, 2019

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

I didn't even notice the eyebrows when I first read that...I wish I hadn't gone back to look.

WmC, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

god that is so weird

omar little, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

Just want to point out re diabetes chat - Theresa May was (weirdly) misdiagnosed as 2, but was actually 1 and was nearly 60 at that point.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/celebrities/theresa-may.html

gyac, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

It's like she skinned another human for their eyebrows:
https://i.imgur.com/TLAH92e.png

joygoat, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

She felt herself on the wrong side of a class divide. Allegheny’s students seemed wealthy; she wasn’t. She couldn’t join a sorority because she couldn’t afford the dues, she said. Her sense of outsiderness gave her a bold pen, and she was already going to extremes. She published reactionary opinion pieces for the campus newspaper, such as one arguing that the “homosexual movement, a liberal sub–faction, proliferates like melanoma.” “I could have tempered my message, things like that,” she told me. But she didn’t.

lol @ the idea that there's a tempered, acceptable version of that statement

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

I assume it would be some variation on 'what you do in the comfort of your own bedroom is none of my business BUT DON'T YOU DARE DRAG THE CHILDREN INTO THIS!'

pomenitul, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

“I could have tempered my message, things like that,”

yeah this kinda gives the game away. wonder if Gray just didn't press her much on where she currently stands on the standard issue hate-mongering in mainstream conservatism, or just chose not to include it in the piece.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

i don't know why it needed to be framed as a redemption piece. it could have just been an article about someone's journey into the alt right.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

there was a ton in there that was interesting/revelatory as to the closeness between these different right wing orgs

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

the redemption angle doesn't play, there's vague overtures towards owning what she's said in the past and taking responsibility for it, but what's she really doing except...saying vague things? they can photograph her like a wide-eyed innocent but trying to push it slightly towards the "a corrupted person comes to their senses" is fitting a square peg into a round hole. with her right-wing shit she escalated herself, she wasn't escalated by others.

omar little, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

i know dick all about Allegheny College but man just imagine feeling aggrieved & inferior to wealthy greek assholes in college and deciding to saddle up w the likes of... tucker carlson and richard spencer.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

The video of Tommy Robinson getting milkshaked in Bury. So. Good. pic.twitter.com/3HpxtxtZH2

— Henry Langston (@Henry_Langston) May 2, 2019

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

That Union Square egging was great too.

jmm, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

yeah he must be furious and embarrassed to have millions of his enemies talking about him

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

Milkshakes only make him stronger, more powerful

milkshake chuk (wins), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

That's actually the milkshaking in Warrington - the one in Bury was yesterday.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

He absorbs eggs and uses the albumen as fuel to make his hate burn ever brighter

milkshake chuk (wins), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

So he can run away even faster from Lancastrians shouting "Are you a ponce?" at him.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

social media has been a non-stop disaster for the right - thank god we have it, otherwise how would we fight them?

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

And your point is, caller?

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

The left is platforming the otherwise obscure Yaxley-Lennon by noting that he keeps getting publicly owned

milkshake chuk (wins), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

fernando hierro with another hot take

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

aye it should be a half-brick instead of a milkshake, it's still good but

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

Hot Takes and Milkshakes

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

I just can't really see how this kind of attention is bad for a figure like TR. He doesn't even have to make his own viral videos etc.

That doesn't equate to condemning the act IRL - just I think he gets a net gain from any publicity.

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

Call me a hapless boob but I'll take this over Newsnight spending 20 minutes trying to explain or understand the concerns of his followers.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

every response to a fascist brings attention to them though? i would agree with "just ignore him" as a policy if we were talking about the halcyon days of EDL demos in provincial cities with like 6 eejits turning up, but ol' yaxley-lennon the west brit has a sizable following

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

Yeah that’s a bolted horse

milkshake chuk (wins), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

it's a bit chicken and egg but i find it hard to see how this strategy of mass sharing isn't beneficial ultimately. i mean, his rise is quite tied to social media and it's hard not to say that reaction to him is part of the cycle.

i mean, i'm not going to go to whatever underbelly and find out, but if i ask myself is he (a) desperate for this milkshake video to be taken down or (b) already using it or planning to use it for further promo, the answer seems fairly obvious.

he's top trending on twitter right now - the independent story comes up first with his electoral poster as the main pic. if lolling at this type of person on twitter stops them, why are they becoming more popular?

i'm not saying 'just ignore him' but it does seem like we maybe need to properly be selective about our behaviour, which seems almost impossible.

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

some good news!

Facebook just banned Laura Loomer, Infowars, Paul Joseph Watson, and many more https://t.co/nKJwRbT4V7

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) May 2, 2019

Neil S, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

"Milo" banned too, pour one out etc.

Neil S, Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

aye it should be a half-brick instead of a milkshake, it's still good but

― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, May 2, 2019 2:33 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No half measures.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 2 May 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

The idea that throwing milkshakes at Tommy Robinson will just ignite his own followers misses that political violence is rooted in the far-right. They aren't retaliating when they assault minorities. They do so as thugs. Heavy street presence is what beats them back.

— R.A.S | رابّيل (@abrownrabbit95) May 2, 2019

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

got a Washington Post alert that said "FB bans far-right figures like Milo, Farrakhan, etc," before getting a correction that changed "far-right" to "extremist," probably because a lot of people on the right complained about Farrakhan being called "far-right."

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

He’s so old. Is he still active on twitter?

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Alt-Right-adjacent ghouls freaked out that Farrakhan was finally correctly labeled as a figure on the right, and Wapo caved, shameful. pic.twitter.com/EFGQVMWzEP

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) May 2, 2019

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 May 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link


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