HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

also this is still canon:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S1mFoDK4sUQ/maxresdefault.jpg

i reject it because it makes a nonsense of my bran/night king slashfic

Oh I totally forgot why Hodor says "hodor". I was just thinking of all the good Hodor jokes that happened for one week.

next series should be the hilarious escapades of the unsullied trying to figure out how to establish a house

or a very sad, slow cinema style show all about the unsullied slowly dying out because they can't replace their population.

unsullied: the last grey worm

unsullied discovery of cloning leads to technological advances and comic hijinx

Have we talked yet about what a sicko move it is to stab someone to death while you're frenching them?

She died doing what she loved, making out with hot dumb guys.

Managed to avoid spoilers and seen it today. Not that difficult because I don't know anyone.

If the dragon was super intelligent I doubt it would be explaining things like in the meme picture above. Question would be how complicit dragon was in the massacre. "She made me do it"?

I guess people might be for years pestering GRRMartin and the two showrunners about exactly how much Martin told them about his official ending.

Maybe the dragon was trying to kill Jon but is nearsighted and has lousy aim? It might also explain the wholesale slaughter of innocents.

The dragon just had a heavy cold the day before, is very embarrassed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/c4f9np/so_my_wife_recently_discovered_snapchat_filters/

I am definitely not in a position of confidence on this opinion, but just anecdotally it seems that all the steam came out of this show the second it ended. I don't get the impression it left much of an, well, impression at all. It was over, people were done, they moved on, and every once in a while I see a quote from a cast member complaining that they wish they got a better ending.

Then again, for all I know it's still the talk of the water cooler set. Or maybe moving on from Major Cultural Events is just how things work these days? No idea.

mirrors my own impression

I still talk about it quite a lot. I saw an absolutely horrible piece of shit movie the other day, and my fellow critics and I were: 'It's bad, but at least not as bad as last season of Game of Thrones'. I've seen a lot of people who watched 'Chernobyl' say that it was really good it was so short and ended well, just what they needed after the steaming bowl of feces that was the last season of Game of Thrones. Just the other day I had an interesting discussion at my office about whether or not the catastrophic last season of Game of Thrones was bad enough to kill the elevated position tv has attained these last decades. So I really think it made an impression.

joke's on you, you watched it

I hear the last season of GoT is a bad tipper.

First maybe we should list the shows where people say around talking about the ending for weeks—let alone days—after it ended. I mean it really hardly ever happens.

Sopranos

Seinfeld

Lost and How I Met Your Mother (albeit not in a good way)

I mean, I barely watched any of it, but it feels like it's that like period where when something IS over you take a long time to digest it all around, then the retrospective thoughts emerge later. But ultimately you just really need to take a break.

I think most people IRL were flummoxed by Sopranos and Seinfeld too. The rare “perfect” ending I’ve seen has been on shows which are not event programs.

Anyway everyone I know talked about GOT for the usual amount of time people talked about the other shows. Which is to say not very long and then the next shows started up. Breaking Bad, there’s a major show people just sort of finished and left behind.

Yeah, I don't know, I still see that referenced all the time. Lines, characters, impressions, quotes, etc.. At the least Walter White and Los Pollos Hermanos are meme-y cultural icons. We'll see where GoT lands in a few years. The most praise I ever saw tossed toward Game of Thrones was not about characters or writing or acting or anything but about how it was like watching a Hollywood blockbuster spectacular every week. Which a) is not really accurate and b) is kinda faint praise, given that there are plenty of Hollywood blockbuster spectaculars, and they mostly suck.

xpost to Ned, I don't think they will give it much time for people to digest. They've already ramped up production on at least one spin-off, right? Which means all marketing focus is on going forward. I already saw some online news story about "Naomi Watts remains tightlipped about Game of Thrones prequel" or whatever, so the hype machine is already getting cranked.

naomi watts really deserves better

The most praise I ever saw tossed toward Game of Thrones was not about characters or writing or acting or anything but about how it was like watching a Hollywood blockbuster spectacular every week.

hmm yeah i'm not sure, it was always praised for the plots and characters in the first few seasons, and the acting was always praised as well. any discussion of its blockbuster movie ambitions was not praise as much as a neutral acknowledgement of what it was doing. it was a deeper and more impressive show early on, even though to me it was pretty impressive in terms of the scale and spectacle later on, and always remained watchable-to-entertaining.

the first few seasons were not blockbuster scale, they feel like from another type of show entirely. there were a lot of epic battles happening but i can't think of one that even occurred onscreen, it was all aftermath and war camps and machinations in dark castle chambers.

(save for the Blackwater Bay battle, which was the best one of the series for being so interesting in terms of the shifts and the way it was carried out)

Counterpoint: if Los Pollos Hermanos were meme-y cultural icons then I, someone who'd never seen the show, would have any idea who they were (I've heard of Walter White, obviously)

you've really never seen this image on a t-shirt?

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There was an important battle in the second season (I think) which took place entirely off-camera. wish they had the guts to do that again.

If the amount of flavours named some variation on "Heisenberg" are any indication, Breaking Bad has certainly left its mark on vape culture

Are there Game of Thrones vape references? Like, "dracarys," or something?

Hot Pie

xp: Not vapey, but I was a little embarrassed when this came out:

https://wamplerpedals.com/images/products/2016/dracarys_front.jpg

Yeah, that is a little embarrassing, because Wampler is already an awesome name for a company, and they put out lots of good stuff. Why go novelty?

i'm struggling to articulate something about this show: it is ironic that it collapsed under its own weight, disappointing and empty, unable to think its way out of the various holes it was in -- while the lines with the most life and afterlife in them are all knowing condescension: "oh my sweet summer child," "you know nothing, Jon Snow," "I drink and I know things."

(for ref my basic read is that the last season or two were noticeably worse than the earlier seasons but not THAT much worse)

it was *always* empty. Because it was never about anything. It has no thematic core beyond being a dynastic power struggle, something which is not, in and of itself, ever inherently interesting. It never had anything meaningful to say about the nature of politics, family, gender, power, morality, spirituality, or any number of other common major themes.

The only thing it had to say was that in the end we all die. But then it started bringing people back to life and stuff, so even that was unclear.

like if you had to tell me what this show was about in any kind of concise way - without a reference to any specific plot points or characters - I think you'd have a hard time. For ex. you can argue that Citizen Kane is about the loss of innocence, or the Sopranos is about the nature of evil (or family), the Wire is about power structures, etc.

I'm sure some of you will try :)

the major theme was "There's nothing more powerful in the world than a good story."

what this show was about in any kind of concise way

i think you could fairly say that it was about dynastic power struggles (which are inherently interesting)

lol

i think i'd rate the seasons like this

S1: 10
S2: 10
S3: 10
S4: 9
S5: 8
S6: 7
S7: 5
S8: 2

i think dynastic stuff is interesting because its so alien to modernity. the show wasn't *enough* about that! did anyone have any kids in the whole run?

i feel like if the wars of the roses or 30 yrs war was really the driving inspiration here, people would have been herding Jon & The Blonde into marriage like 5 years ago

i think dynastic stuff is interesting because its so alien to modernity.

oh please. we're ruled by political and economic dynasties.

how many kids did Sam and Gilly have?

To me the good part, the first three books, first four seasons, are about how competitions can spiral out of control so that everyone loses.

the only thing separating this show from garbage telenovelas was the production values/budgets. otherwise this particular dynastic power struggle could have been set in any era in any part of the globe - ancient Greece, medieval Japan, Putinized gangster Russia, a Latin American banana republic, etc. - and all you'd have to tailor to the locality would be the fantastical elements. But it still wouldn't have anything interesting to say about of those places or anything at all really. King Lear it is not.

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