Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

If he somehow died it would still be ugly but less bad. I also think it would help the democrats chances—trump’s cult of personifg is buoying a lot of unpopular policies

One of my friends who works in politics as a fundraiser for Democratic candidates is incredibly concerned about Harris as a candidate, not because he thinks she is terrible but because the prosecutor toolkit that makes her an effective and impressive Senator in Congressional hearings is uniquely unsuited towards doing well in a Presidential run. Harris is good at constructing a narrative and breaking down a witness to build upon that narrative; in the current context, she does not get to flex those muscles and is effectively just giving closing arguments constantly, which doesn't let her get to the meat of how she outlines/defines a position. (This may also account for why she's criticized as being disingenuous aside from the regular sexist/racist baggage.)

Yeah i mean who knows. I think being able to hammer soundbites is important now—a less flattering possible (and partial) explanation for bernie sanders’ success.

Harris did a decent job pumping up the crowd and speaking in a folksy way when I saw her stumping for midterm candidates last year. Not Obama-level, but not bad. Actual debates will flush out her narrative-building ability, I would guess.

I can't think of a single Sanders soundbite that's really punchy! His shtick is doggedly sticking to the basics, to the detriment of not catering speeches well to specific interest groups.

I can't think of a single Sanders soundbite that's really punchy! His shtick is doggedly sticking to the basics, to the detriment of not catering speeches well to specific interest groups.

This is his strength for sure, he's like a broken record, and easily pariodable but when you parody him you end up just repeating his platform! this is good. Most of the others don't really have a platform, or at least not one you can remember, but, weirdly, they don't really seem to have memorable catchphrases either (yet)

it's hilarious when someone tries to use a clip of Bernie saying something thirty years ago as a gotcha moment only to realize he said the exact same thing yesterday

Joe Biden's a bum. A right-wing chauvinist, good time prick, arrogant bastard creep who thinks that because he's got a $3,000 suit and the cachet of a lifetime sinecure in the Senate we should bow down to his beaming smile. A real racist piece of work. https://t.co/jPvivMUf5R

— Sen. Mike Gravel (@MikeGravel) June 6, 2019

The most consistent through line of Biden‘s career is his lack of respect for a woman’s autonomy. Not only does he pet and paw at women publicly, but he refuses to work to make abortion easier by supporting the monstrous Hyde Amendment. https://t.co/WJEDuihZT4

— Sen. Mike Gravel (@MikeGravel) June 5, 2019

where do I find some teens to run my twitter account? the Gravel kids are getting some good sniping in

Biden supports the carbon capture and storage (CCS) faith based initiative, and his staff are plagiarists.

The paragraph in Joe Biden’s climate plan about carbon capture and sequestration includes language that is remarkably similar to items published previously by the Blue Green Alliance and the Carbon Capture Coalition.

— Josh Nelson (@josh_nelson) June 4, 2019

all of the above! including the really pointless, dumb, expensive and bad ideas

I'm officially convinced that there is absolutely no way in hell Biden should be the nominee due to his abortion record. This election is going to largely be determined by women, and abortion is going to be a hugely galvanizing issue. This should really put an end to any "electability" debates about him. He is not electable.

along with Anita Hill, "I have no empathy" for millennials, credit card co Muppet, Iraq vote, etc

I hate Biden, but you can find bad stuff about any candidate, but anita hill and the iraq war vote are not going to be defining issues of 2020. Abortion almost certainly is.

It's a spectrum, but Biden isn't that far removed from Trump. There is no sharpening that tool.

I wouldn't go that far. But I won't think about it because he ain't getting that nomination.

i'm not so certain but i hope you're right because I absolutely think he would lose to Trump.

as D Perrin's podcast cohost said last week, the Dems nominating him and losing pretty much exactly as HRC did would be the ultimate self-inflicted Groundhog Day.

That's fine, but I'm really only interested in hearing opinions like that from people who think it would be a bad thing.

I can hear Perrin's giddiness.

^^^ pair of bad-faith comments

but i'm glad you're listening to it, Alfred!

I didn't: I'm going by the love-to-watch-you-burn tone of his tweets.

he's just an Angry Old Man, you know the type

I wouldn't go that far. But I won't think about it because he ain't getting that nomination.

I feel like you're about as sure of this as I was that Trump wouldn't get elected

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7056958/2147483647/resize/971x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F28%2Fe3%2Fea549ba74a21915366f2bed6f84f%2F190605-joe-biden-ap-773.jpg

That shirt is so Poppy Bush Interzone.

I feel like you're about as sure of this as I was that Trump wouldn't get elected

― Simon H., Thursday, June 6, 2019

Dem primary voters aren't GOP primary voters, despite this "electability" garbage.

despite this "electability" garbage.

This is both his strength (more so than fact he was good at standing next to Obama) AND his big weakness. His lead is purely out of this idea that he's somehow electorally invincible and a 'safe bet', but the problem with this is its a shield made out of glass. The minute he starts taking hits in the debates, the whole thing will shatter, and that shield was the only reason in the first place

I don’t think his lead is due to perceived electability. I think people like him and they also want a restoration of Obama era normalcy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Return_of_the_King

It's both. ILE is not the world, I have to remind myself at all times. I had a fight with two acquaintances visiting from Belgium last Friday -- liberals in every sense -- who wished the Dems could shake off their collective madness and "rally behind" a candidate. The more vehement of the two called me naive. I reminded him that primary battles don't play well overseas.

Joe should dust off Warren Harding’s famous campaign slogan.

Joe should dust off Warren Harding’s famous campaign slogan.

I had a fight with two acquaintances visiting from Belgium last Friday -- liberals in every sense -- who wished the Dems could shake off their collective madness and "rally behind" a candidate.

I'm all for that if the candidate is Warren

TOO FAR OUT FOR BRUSSELS

I am not taking pointers on anything from people who put mayo on their fries

DJP otm

on everything

I offended them when I pointed that while they were gay they were also two old white dudes.

lol

and belgians

Ahhhh, the Belgians were gay. Not Biden and Trump. Thought I missed some announcement.

Joe just reversed himself on Hyde Amendment.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447392-biden-reverses-stance-on-hyde-amendment-after-blowback

Joe oughta dust off Warren Harding's old mistress

pic.twitter.com/kEwbWvGogI

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) June 6, 2019

^^^ the kind of incisive satire that's earned Perrin his status ("Dennis who?") in the world of comedy.

I think Dennis Miller has that corner on lock.

it's just a tweet, you silly nonentity xp

just learned that Symone Sanders is working on Biden's campaign, which is very disappointing but not altogether unsurprising, I did have a sneaking suspicion even when she was working for Bernie that she sucked.

Happy #BestFriendsDay to my friend, @BarackObama. pic.twitter.com/JTd1t7NtyL

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) June 9, 2019

lol @ the replies