I prefer ‘71 m’self
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Monday, 10 June 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
"China Cat Sunflower."
― clemenza, Monday, 10 June 2019 03:35 (four years ago) link
gotta be mountains of the moon, everything else is either an interesting sketch or a shadow of what it would become live
― oiocha, Monday, 10 June 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link
i've kind of come around to what's become of the baby (og mix) over the years... but this is mountains of the moon just shading out china cat.
which mix was it that made it onto the early cd? cos i'm not sure i've actually heard the '71 version.
― no lime tangier, Monday, 10 June 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link
^it was the ‘71 mix (although: Mistakenly, the song timings on the first (1987) CD release refer to the original mix, not the remix (varying most significantly on "Doin' that Rag," which was edited from 5:15 to 4:41, and "China Cat Sunflower," edited from 4:15 to 3:40).)
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Monday, 10 June 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link
I believe this new anniversary reish is the first time the ‘69 mix has been officially issued on CD.
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Monday, 10 June 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link
ah, thanks... then i haven't heard the remix in 15+ years. might be interesting to get hold of a copy and contrast & compare at some point (though taking out the "experimental" factor, boo!)
― no lime tangier, Monday, 10 June 2019 04:44 (four years ago) link
I liked the 69 mix better for a while after I first heard it, but really the 71 is better for most of the album. But "What's Become of the Baby" is tons better in the original mix.
― WmC, Monday, 10 June 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link
What was the version on the Golden road box set was that still the '71.
― Stevolende, Monday, 10 June 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
St Stephen and it isn't even close
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
xp To my understanding, yes. (That’s what I owned, and I dl’d a rip of the ‘69 LP mix from Slsk back in the day)
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
voted for china cat, even tho the studio version is almost unrecognizable to me at this point. it's still got some A+ guitarwork.
― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
Love Phil’s 5ths during the St Stephen intro
― calstars, Monday, 10 June 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
Interesting -- not sure i ever heard this version of China Cat before. I don't hate it. Still have to go with St Stephen though.
― enochroot, Monday, 10 June 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
for jams & future purposes china cat easy. for "what's my favorite song to sing & play, the best song-qua-song here" I think it's St Stephen for sure
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 10 June 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
the little "china cat!" harmonies are so goofy, forgot about those.
― oiocha, Monday, 10 June 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
I hate the "la-la-la" on this china cat. Glad they dropped that.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 June 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
yeah this record sounds very of its time, way too much going on at any given moment
there's a lot of hippy dippy crap on this record but the opening lines of saint stephen are so evocative and great
Saint Stephen, with a roseIn and out of the garden he goesCountry garden in the wind and the rainWherever he goes the people all complain
just instantly conjures up this beatific, persecuted holy fool.
― oiocha, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
this is always worth a "wow, different times" look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6OAfvlxTs
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
It was one of the first LPs recorded using a 16-track (which I imagine most folks posting here already know...).
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
lol @ bob at 5:38. he's so corny and always has been
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link
Heard the live set with the 50th anniversary edition yesterday and it sounds pretty great.Captured during the 24th-26th January 69 live shows that Live Dead comes from apparently. Seems to be quite peak 69.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 20 June 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
kudos to the brave soul who voted "what's become of the baby"
thread got me into "mountains of the moon"... but only live. the dp26 version is nice. (goes into a nice pre-rider china cat, too) the studio version... i mean it's a good song but harpsichord was past its sell-by date in '69
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 June 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
Luv the tie score!
― Consider the coconut (morrisp), Thursday, 20 June 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
but harpsichord was past its sell-by date in '69
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:12 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i mean bach had already been dead for almost twenty years
― budo jeru, Thursday, 20 June 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
Rosemary deserved better
― think the toledo mud hens but for twitter (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 June 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link
It was down to that or What's Become for me. I knew St Stephen and China Cat would get plenty of love.
― I am curious (george) (slight return) (WmC), Thursday, 20 June 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
sorry about my dumb joke
as you were
― budo jeru, Thursday, 20 June 2019 07:55 (four years ago) link
in fairness knowledge of bach's death wasn't common knowledge until the 1978's "duck stab"
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
rosemary is cool cos it sounds like proto-ween
― oiocha, Thursday, 20 June 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
Rosemary’s ”a breath of cologne” such good phrasing by big J
― calstars, Thursday, 20 June 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link
Boots were of leatherA breath of cologneHer mirror was a windowShe sat quite aloneAll around herThe garden grewScarlet and purpleAnd crimson and blueShe came and she wentAnd at last went awayThe garden was sealedWhen the flowers decayedOn the wall of the gardenA legend did say:No one may come hereSince no one may stay
― calstars, Thursday, 20 June 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link