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not that these things are unrelated. but the emphasis of these people is wanting a theocracy.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 10 June 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

It's not like they want a poor theocracy

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link

boils down to "I want an aristocracy"

Dunno. It depends on the flavor of conservatism. The oligarchs want to maintain the current oligarchy. The evangelicals and conservative Catholics want to establish a theocracy. The racists just want the full restoration of white supremacy. Then there are the uneasy masses who just want everything 'put back the way it was', except the past they yearn for is a fantasy that never existed.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 June 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

"Hierarchy" is the better word. Some people are born to rule, others to follow. Corey Robin's book is pretty good on the subject.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link

With a proper hierarchy, you always know who you must grovel to and who must grovel to you.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 June 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

(those numbers were scammed from wiki crap that addressed immigration, sorry to native populations excluded from my shitpost)

― Hunt3r, Monday, May 20, 2019 6:58 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

quick note that indigenous populations weren't considered humans by colonialists at that time if they were considered at all. much of the continent was considered "terra nullius." so you can't be blamed for the wiki's bullshit— plenty of reasonable population estimates for the time period exist, but i'm sure that because they can't be *proven* some racist nerds at wikipedia edit them out all the time.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 10 June 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

I’m at the Hotel Imperial in Vienna, Austria. Almost 200 rooms… But the elevator has been broken for 3 days.

Please don’t bring European-style socialism to America. 🚯 pic.twitter.com/axeygJSoBi

— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) June 18, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

must...resist...urge...to yell at frank luntz....on twitter...

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

No elevator in America has ever been or will ever be broken.

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link

Current Austrian government a coalition between well-known socialists, the People's Party and the Freedom Party.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

life on earth is bribery

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

is that why you want the tax returns?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

liberals are fundamentally perfidious and want to destroy us and our way of life. it is actively dangerous to trust anything they say. in order to protect ourselves from this existential threat, we have to be willing to do to them all of the things we know in our heart they want to do to us, and we have to do it first, before it's too late. self-defense is never wrong, so while some of the things we have to do would be wrong under other circumstances, we are just Standing Our Ground, which is not only blameless but morally necessary.

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Imagine killing an unarmed child and then suing his parents." https://t.co/fwWXwNOMZf

— 🎄⛄️ Eoin Jinglins ⛄️🎄 (@EoinHiggins_) December 4, 2019

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 5 December 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

not so much an explanation as a distillation

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 5 December 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/03/its-the-spirit-of-the-age-jared-kushner-edition

Conservatives in general, and in particular the white evangelicals who make up Trump’s base, hate expertise because their world view is a farrago of magical thinking that wouldn’t stand up to ten seconds of actual critical scrutiny, which is why they take great care to avoid that experience at all costs.

El Tomboto, Friday, 13 March 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The modern conservative movement holds these truths to be self-evident

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/coronavirus-trump-dhs-undocumented-workers-essential.html

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link

good article, too bad i agree with the hopeless conclusion

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link

more of the same being available is not quite hopeless. but to get change we do have to demand it be changed, and must be able to elect persons to do that. otherwise it will actually get much worse. we won't shrug and settle will we?

i ask cthulu to save me. but i just get dennis perrin tweets. (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Read this in the Amazon reviews of Amanda Marcotte's book "Troll Nation," and I think it is a great summary of the current "conservative" mindset:

1. Trolling is destructive to discourse (agree)
2. Trolling does not provide a coherent political vision for reform (agree)
3. But you ignored the main issue: why (really) do Trump and his followers troll? And the answer is not hatred.
It's a tactic to destabilize the tenuous parasitic leftist coalitions that are built on a dizzying array of incompatible grievances against imagined enemy institutions. These enemies of leftists include most of the most stable, successful institutions that make civilization possible: religion, capitalism, meritocratic education and commerce, strong national defense, controlled borders, and solvent government spending. The incessant attacks on these institutions by the left are largely encouraged by the DC establishment and most state and local governments, and the result has been failure of safety, solvency, competence, and sanity. Leftism causes parasitic failure across the board. To defend leftist policies on merit is impossible, so the left decided the primary tactic for persuasion should be defamation, intimidation, and even criminal extortion, persecution, and assault. So the right has had enough, and has decided, symbolized by and led by Trump, to assail the leftist establishment with criticism, skepticism, insults, and challenges to their authority and power at all levels. Like in any street fight, you can't win if you aren't willing to use the tactics your enemy is willing to use. So the right trolls, because the left smears. As long as the left smears and commits crimes to further their agenda, the right will troll and be willing to stop those crimes with equal or greater force. That is why the right trolls. Not because of your imagined telepathic detection of deep seated Nazi hatred, but because your leadership are a bunch of parasitic communist thugs who aspire to totalitarian tyrannical rule, and deserve trolling.

DJI, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

Third part just seems lifted straight out of Trump Jr's book.

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

built on a dizzying array of incompatible grievances against imagined enemy institutions

more goddamned projection

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

I can't read that shit

conservativism basically just means being a dick and enjoying it, or pretending to enjoy it idk

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

HENLEY: Well, yeah.

stone cold jane austen (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Typical response from the Left

xp

Evan, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

i wish i hadn't chosen that fucking name

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

On my Facebook today: You hate the truth. Very few still telling it, Hannity is one of them.

As succinct as it gets. To believe it is to be conservative.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Why do they troll? “The answer is not hatred.”

The subsequent paragraph describes in depth a hatred and contempt for left ideology, and the use of trolling as a tactic to sink it?

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

To clarify, I’m not saying that the paragraph identifies leftist ideology with any clarity or rigor—just that it details hatred pretty specifically.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I see hella hatred in that last paragraph. But it's "the truth" and I hate the truth.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

otm

"Leftism causes parasitic failure across the board," but it's not like I hate it.

dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

Lotta handwaving about the ills of leftism.

DJI, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

it definitely explains why people who cannot stand the mildest of criticisms flock to Trump

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

"But that doesn’t matter to his supporters, because consequences don’t matter, and consequences don’t matter, because there’s always a way of escaping accountability when intellectual dishonesty is the lens through which one engages the world. What matters is impulse, urge, appetite, an itch, and other neurological bliss points."

https://stoehr.substack.com/p/trumps-ersatz-phallic-exercise

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

Ersatz Phallic Exercise is, coincidentally, the name of my Zappa tribute band.

stone cold jane austen (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

Heard this Frank Wilhoit quote via the “Know Your Enemy” pod and it’s pretty perfect:

“There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Woman shouts 'I still love sharks' after being attacked by one https://t.co/DsuxLcwenW pic.twitter.com/5jq8ZTwkn1

— New York Post (@nypost) July 16, 2020

rob, Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

^ tells it like it is

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

IF aliens are real, salvation through Jesus Christ is the only way they enter Heaven. #txlege

— Jonathan Stickland (@RepStickland) July 24, 2020

jmm, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

i am one degree of separation from that guy, he's as big a joke as you might imagine per my source

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

Jesus Christ is technically an alien.

pomenitul, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

true, just like...superman

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

Tweets that perfectly match the profile pic

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Thread:

I saw a tweet where someone described that when they find out someone they know personally supports Trump, they lose all respect for them instantly. I liked it and retweeted it, but stopped short of sharing it on Instagram.

Why?

1/x

— Gabrielle Blair (@designmom) August 28, 2020



Everything she wants to block people for is basically the current state of conservatism

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 29 August 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

I was like 'who is this random woman' and then I looked her up lol

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 29 August 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

that thread is absolutely majestic.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 29 August 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

That is a fantastic thread, and of course the first response I read is some handwringing "oh but how can you win them over if you block them?" crap from somebody I can only assume hasn't read or hasn't understood what she wrote

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 August 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

idk is she communist enough tho ;)

imago, Saturday, 29 August 2020 11:35 (three years ago) link

I lol'd @

I want to see you shunned by every person and organization that doesn’t support Trump. No more access to their books, movies, products, music, events, artists & influencers — till you are left with nothing but Smashmouth concerts, and Ben Shapiro talking about his sex life.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Saturday, 29 August 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link


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