Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

that's Neil Hamburger-level

WOW

This is still up on John Landis's Wikipedia page as of 3:18pm EDT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9XdB2hXYAIL1M2?format=jpg&name=large

whoa

lol it's still there, and now it's footnoted with a link to today's article

wait what does the helicopter parent tweet mean

landis as a pushy director essentially killed three people with a helicopter on the set of twilight zone movie in the eighties

And two of the dead were a 6yo and a 7yo

oooooh fuckkk I didn't know he directed that lmao

(it's an anthology film - Landis was producer and wrote & directed one chapter and the wraparounds, Spielberg was also producer and directed one chapter, Joe Dante and George Miller [the Mad Max one, not the Man From Snowy River one] directed a chapter each - the non-Landis chapters were all remakes of TV episodes)

Hamburger-level otm

the details of the accident are pretty horrifying. it's still shocking to me that landis had a career after that.

landis as a pushy director essentially killed three people with a helicopter on the set of twilight zone movie in the eighties

― godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:47 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And two of the dead were a 6yo and a 7yo

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:49 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oooooh fuckkk I didn't know he directed that lmao

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:57 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

vm enjoying this three post run

It's insane what a BUSTLING career he had after that. It happened in July 1982 and he still managed to do Trading Places and Thriller

And then 'Into the Night'

Wiki: The film was greenlit by Sean Daniel, president of Universal; he was the executive who had championed Landis on National Lampoon's Animal House. Three weeks into the 60-day shoot, Landis was ordered to stand trial for involuntary manslaughter arising out of the Twilight Zone shoot. Daniel told the press he thought Landis and his colleagues had been "unfairly sent to trial for what is obviously a human catastrophe, not a criminal act."[1]

Yes that one has always stuck with me. Fucking insane. IIRC some countdown show on VH1 had either stills or behind the scenes footage right before/after the accident, I remember seeing Vic Morrow carrying those kids in that fake lake or wherever they shot that.

I'm not watching it but there's a video of the accident on YouTube.

If the Wikipedia article is accurate it seems incredible Landis and others were acquitted.

Chloe Dykstra (Chris Hardwick's ex) on Landis. Apparently they were part of this creep scene too.

This is a post I made on Facebook several days ago regarding my relationship with Max. pic.twitter.com/mmr1ozq99t

— Chloe Dykstra (@skydart) June 18, 2019

On a lighter note, Mamet's new Weinstein-inspired play opened in London to terrible reviews:

http://www.playbill.com/article/read-reviews-for-david-mamets-bitter-wheat-starring-john-malkovich

https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html

Jeeeeeesus.

i never heard about this CRJ stuff with Max Landis. the guy sounds like a certifiable psychopath to me.

I didn't know about it, and having googled and found an Anthony Fantano video titled "Screenwriter Max Landis EXPOSES Carly Rae Jepsen!!!" at the top of the results, I will continue to not know about it

sic: probably worth being a bit more aware as it's surprisingly more fucked up than you think no matter what you think it is
https://www.ascarnooneelsecansee.com/intro

this is a great cut story that's been doing the rounds today:

https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/babe-net-aziz-ansari-date-rise-and-fall.html

thank god that someone is finally speaking up for the long-term artistic legacies of k-pax and the adventure of sharkboy and lava girl 3-d

Dame Judi Dench has spoken out about her sadness at seeing her friends Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey shunned from the big screen.

Despite condemning their behaviour publicly, Dench told the Radio Times she was concerned the pair’s work would be forgotten.

Dench does not defend Spacey and Weinstein against allegations over their misconduct but rued the treatment of Spacey in particular, whose performances were removed from Ridley Scott’s 2017 film All the Money in the World after it was completed.

“Are we going to negate 10 years at the Old Vic and everything that he did [as artistic director] – how wonderful he’s been in all those films? Are we just not going to see all those films that Harvey produced?”

“You cannot deny somebody a talent. You might as well never look at a Caravaggio painting [he was a murderer]. You might as well never have gone to see Noël Coward [accused of predatory behaviour].”

Caravaggio >>> some film producer from Flushing.

her point isn't completely off - Weinstein has 328 production credits on imdb, at least a few of which were good, and Spacey did do good work once upon a time

obv doesn't negate how horrible these people are but there's more to those films than one man

if only someone were arguing that these films should be erased from history

brad otm, dench is coming out swinging against an opinion that i can't recall anyone ever expressing

controp: Knowing Spacey is a sexual predator makes re-watching Se7en better

(nb i probably don't actually believe this.)

no one is saying it like that, but at least at my local repertory house, there's a lot of debate over these topics. they're doing a Rosemary's Baby screening soon, the host doesn't want to mention anything about Polanski's real life, others feel the opposite. i can see both sides, but the argument is starting to happen in some form

Can’t Polanksi at least get a moratorium until he’s dead, surely it can’t be long now

This only really applies to onscreen talent and directors, tho. No one gives a fuck if Weinstein produced something, because we don't think of the producer role as "part" of the film in the same way.

^^^^

Almost too obvious a point to make id have thought

A lot of the stories about the films of Harvey Scissorhands have also been about brave directors trying to stand up to him, so in some way his fall might lead to some of his productions being re-evaluated.

disagree completely with wins and drf but thats prob ok

re Harvey specifically, or just producers? there are endless stories of directors fighting Harvey re their content, and maybe two in forty years of him making a useful contribution outside of marketing

I think it's prob ok too but would be curious to hear you elaborate. You think audiences care about producers? xpost

90% of audiences don't care about directors either

I think for most people it would be like finding out that the head of a record company is evil (which, y'know), it wouldn't affect their opinion of the records

the work is the work

Yeah, my post wasn't saying anything about that either way tbf.

not much cognitive dissonance at all w/ Spacey because he usually played villains, murderers, criminals, or creeps. totally different story with someone like Cosby.

Spacey isn't in any good movies

makes things easy!

Swimming With Sharks is good. Moon too, but you don't have to look at him anyway.

hes not any good in movies but hes bad in some good movies

Glengarry is good and he's good in it iirc.

really good in GGGR and L.A. Confidential, good in Seven, excellent in The Ref, he's fine in The Negotiator (which is a decent late-'90s action flick, completely disposable but solid). Basically he was a perfect fit for certain roles which brought out his inherent prick qualities, he rarely played a total hero (The Negotiator being the only complete exception and even there it toyed a bit with his untrustworthiness, L.A. Confidential made him a hero for a minute after his selfishness cost someone their life but then...)