Laughing Stock by Talk Talk - C or D?

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I listened to Laughingstock for the first time yesterday. I liked it. This is kinda ridiculous, but it reminded me of Xiu Xiu, I guess mainly in the vocals.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

At last, ILM gives this album the praise it deserves.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

At last? Read the other Talk Talk thread! We've been going on about this and them since 2001. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(Then again perhaps you are being flip, in which case I salute you.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

(aye-aye, cap'n...)

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

ah, i see!

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Would I like Xiu Xiu then? I've said this to you before, but I always assume that I won't like any of these new bands that have a touch of the avant-garde about them. I guess I assumed that about Animal Collective, though, too, and I like Sung Tongs a lot.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I lost my (burned) copy of Laughing Stock, so I ordered a real one on Amazon a couple weeks ago. Then I worried that I hadn't gotten my brother enough of a Christmas gift, so I gave it to him instead. Which means I have to order it again now. (He will probably now read this and realize I am a schmuck.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"realize" = "confirm his belief that"

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only heard older Xiu Xiu, but you might like it. It's very melodramatic, to the extent that it's a little bit funny, and the music is interesting but pretty.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Where do you go after Laughing Stock? There isn't anywhere, is there? Even the Hollis album isn't quite enough.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I just listened to Laughing Stock at some considerable volume, cried, shook, stood up and kind of twitched a bit, sat in a crumpled heap, and listened intently. It was rather good. I'm now playing Music For Airports because there's nowhere to go after Laughing Stock, nowhere at all.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I recommend going to the corner 7-11 for a Slurpee, it'll revive your will to live

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

or grab some disco

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

This is an excellent question, and one that I don't have an answer to. It sounds like pretty much nothing else out there (that I've heard, anyway), and it definitely isn't "post-rock", no matter how many rock critics try to convince you otherwise.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 21 April 2006 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Laughing Stock is several notches above almost everything called 'post-rock.'

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Friday, 21 April 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

In the Mojo article it's said that a lot of Stock arose from improvisation, that a lot of what made it great was that it was 'unrepeatable'. I thought that was interesting since so much of what I like about the album is the jarring bits of noise or odd phrases that pop in suddenly.

I remember being very disturbed by the fact that the lyric sheet in the CD was incomprehensible (maybe only to me) - it didn't really assist you with deciphering what Hollis was singing. I think that made it all the more powerful as a listening experience.

Brakhage (brakhage), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Thks for Mojo article

Mart, Saturday, 22 April 2006 09:05 (seventeen years ago) link

It is proto-postrock tho--- a clear line of influence from the last 2 talk talk albums on the early UK postrock of Bark Psychosis....

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 22 April 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think on Hex Bark Psychosis took their cues from Spirit of Eden more than Laughing Stock. Hex is a lot cleaner and, um, "designed" than Laughing Stock, albeit also darker and more claustrophobic. Also Bark Psychosis always have that 4AD ethereality to their guitar and keyboard work, whereas the beauty in Talk Talk, and especially Laughing Stock, sounds a lot more organic, warm rather than cool.

I guess though that if you listen to Hex and 'O'Rang's Herd of Instinct and split the difference you get something approaching Laughing Stock.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 22 April 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i never got that thing about talk talk being the first post-rock band neither. they are completely of their own, an island in the landscape of music. what really knocked me off my post-rock trip in the late 90s was this post-rock formula bands like mogwai, godspeed or do make say think employed. starting with almost silence and then soaring and soaring to the loud climax. talk talk don't do this. there is much more silence and space in between in their songs. there is cacophony but not in a progression-like way.

with hex i often have a problem with that so totally inoffensive voice. most of the time it drives me nuts as it totally lacks emotion. in a way that projects back on the music. there seems to be something wishy-washy about it. nice sounding but i don't feel the depth i feel in laughing stock or spirit of eden. it's a little like a body without blood.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

alex in Mainhattan totally, completely OTM.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Agreed. I love BP, obviously, but Hex is definitely a cold, urban record, sheet glass and concrete. Laughing Stock is something else.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 24 April 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

How very random. Nice, though.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 3 July 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

wow! I need a new copy of that CD as it turns out.

akm, Friday, 3 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

It was mentioned on that other TT thread that not many women were posting on it. Well, if it helps, SoE got me through several hours of labour with my second son. It goes very well with gas and air.

Haven't heard LS, though -- I love love love SofE so will check it out.

Meg (Meg Busset), Friday, 3 July 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Or you can save it for your next labour? j/k

Like someone else upthread, I love Laughing Stock and Spirit of Eden equally, so enjoy.

Lostandfound, Friday, 3 July 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

He's stopped making music?

djh, Saturday, 4 July 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Talk Talk fans, I insist you listen to Movietone's The Blossom Filled Streets. It's like Laughing Stock yet somehow even prettier and dreamier.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 10 April 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.badabingrecords.com/products-page/talk-talk-mark-hollis/

"Laughing Stock" and "Mark Hollis" re-released on LP, next month.

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

I spend a fucking fortune (well £80) on my copy of 'Laughing Stock' a few years ago. Will probably pick up the reissue nonetheless. The Mark Hollis album I found second hand for something stupid like £6.

AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

I got a promo CD of the solo album, back when it was (untitled).

I can't remember a thing about it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

Shake my head
Turn my face to the floor
Dead for respect
So respect for be born
Lest we forget
Who lay

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

http://thequietus.com/articles/06963-talk-talk-laughing-stock

“There’s no way at the point when we go in (to the studio) that we know what this album will sound like,” Hollis commented in an interview recorded for a promotional cassette by journalist John Pidgeon for Verve around the album’s release. “All you ever know – and this would be true of the previous album – is you just go in knowing what the attitude is you want and that’s it. There’s no way I think you can go wrong on that because there is no right or wrong; the right and wrong is an internal thing.”

Does this cassette exist anywhere online?

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

Yup

http://withinwithout.dk/Real.htm

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Thank you, Ned!!!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

that tectonic bass in “After the Flood”

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link

I went so long before I even really noticed it was there.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link


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