Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR 4? Verily?

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I think her SNL appearances show she can handle comedy for at least brief appearances, but I don't think she's going to have to do the comedy lifting in this one.

To think I was delighted that Waititi had written Portman's character out of the third one altogether. I find her almost poisonously unwatchable.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 21 July 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

Yeah, she's a really unappealing onscreen presence.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 21 July 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

well steady on now

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

Jesus you guys

akm, Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

What's wrong with disliking an actor? Her fun-police vibe is antithetical to the things I enjoyed in Ragnarok.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

Natalie Portman is good

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

oh shes a bad actress as far as a marvel type gig goes but id never want to not look at her is all

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

and (unnecessarily) to state for the record I have zero problems with gender balance and equity in heroic roles - I think Larson did a great job in the otherwise-lacking Cpt Marvel, Zendaya deserves much more screen time in the Spider-Man ones, and I'd be excited and intrigued if any other female actor picked up the hammer.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

has Portman ever done comedy? She doesn't seem like a fit with Waititi's style

How much comedy had Chris Hemsworth done before his first film with Waititi?

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

This movie is going to come out in two years and be ridiculously successful, colorful (seriously, remember how Ragnarok actually LOOKED?) and hilarious and all this bizarre doubting will seem extremely WTF.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Like with any serious dramatic actor, I think if Portman has a supportive cast & a director she trusts she could absolutely rise to the occasion comedy-wise. Waititi directing & Thomson & Hemsworth on board - all signs point to YES. i can’t wait for this.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

Not having seen Hemsworth play anyone other than Thor, I didn't really have much of an opinion of his range (or lack of it) prior to Ragnarok

I've seen Portman in a lot of films. She's a stiff

Number None, Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

/has Portman ever done comedy? She doesn't seem like a fit with Waititi's style/

How much comedy had Chris Hemsworth done before his first film with Waititi?


He was comedy gold as far back as the first avengers movie. Bringing in Waititi was Marvel recognizing what they had in him.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

He was also great in Ghostbusters.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link

oh yeah that's right. he's actually the best thing in ghostbusters, with the best line about his dog named Mike Hat

akm, Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link

Well, its full name is Michael Hat.

He was also great in Ghostbusters.


totally agree. about the only enjoyable thing in it tbh.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link

As an actress, Natalie Portman seems like a very nice person who enjoys what she does and has a lot of fun doing it.

her rap things for Lonely Island are still fucking hilarious

she strikes me as a very nice lady, which as my wife knows, is code for "I am deeply in love with this unattainable celebrity"

akm, Monday, 22 July 2019 00:36 (four years ago) link

Her “Between Two Ferns” appearance alone should indicate to you dorks that she is very adept at poker-faced, straight-man comedy.

Anyway, you can always watch Ragnarok again if you don’t want to see this new one. It will presumably be a different movie with a different tone, featuring a determined Jane Foster fighting to overcome great odds, for which Portman is well suited.

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Monday, 22 July 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link

official Downfall meme:

pic.twitter.com/IoYadN7Ctr

— Jojo Rabbit (@jojorabbitmovie) July 26, 2019

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 26 July 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

That's funny.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 July 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Stoked!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgB1wUcmbbw

Roz, Monday, 18 April 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

Yeah this looks great

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Parallel thread, activate! Enjoyed this a lot, haven't read any reviews but I did see that it's got a lower review average than many of these movies, to which I can only ask, why? Just rewatched the latest Doctor strange, which one of my kids wanted to see, and this is so much better than that. Good to have a bad guy with at least minimally complex motives, Even if the bad guy in this case was essentially Voldemort.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 July 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

I really didn't dig it, and I'm not entirely sure why? I think you could probably build two or three really good films out of the bits of it, but they didn't really gel together. And I'm not usually averse to tonal shifts!

Partly this was Bale - terrible when he's serious and more terrible when he's not (the bit? in the cage? with the snake?)

Partly this was too much Taika Waititi in multiple dimensions - there's another screenwriter involved but I'm guessing that they didn't get much of a chance to rewrite Korg, and Korg is all over the film, offering wry commentary and flattening any attempts to get a vibe going.

Also Waititi can't leave a joke alone - the first few times Stormbringer drifted jealously into frame were good, but it brought the film screeching to a halt at least once more after that - and then in the finale, where it might've been of some relevance, Thor just hacks at a few arms.

And again the actors joke is rolled out (because it's funny), and then again at a time of great trauma (when it's not). And it hits slightly differently from the original (that it's a sign of the vanity of Loki-as-Odin) that it's now New Asgard as gaudy tourist trap.

I liked Tessa Thompson a lot as Valkryie in Ragnarok - now she's here but not here, most are exposition and reaction, or wry exposition or wry reaction.

The Paradise Omnipotence City section is weird because one the one hand it's entirely unnecessary to the film, but on the other it's one of the few times that they're not shuttling from point A to point B and it's actually really fun in a way that a lot of the rest of the film isn't? Waititi still has a great eye for bright and varied spectacle.

The death for me was when Thor was giving his third pompous and useless speech of the film, to the kids in the cage, and I realised he was resembling no-one so much as Boris Johnson.

There is exactly as much Guardians of the Galaxy as there should be (which means I saw most of it in the trailers) and far too little Kat Dennings.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

*most of her lines

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

The comparison I made on the Marvel thread is to Terry Gilliam's "Baron Munchausen." Maybe not entirely successful, but pretty weird and enjoyable on its own terms.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

I saw a quote from Taika Waititi in the last week, that he was getting pissy that lots of people are discovering Kate Bush through Stranger Things when that's the only song they know, and he was going to have a bunch of less well-known songs by her on the soundtrack until this (which is, like, a month ago?) and so I was amused to see that the soundtrack is actually the three biggest hits by struggling indie rock band Guns'n'Roses.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

A bunch of up and coming young kids from Los Angeles

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

lol he was going to have a "bunch" of Kate Bush songs in the movie? Really? More than one? And deep cuts? I saw the quote, and sure, I can imagine him slipping in "This Woman's Work," but that's not exactly a deep cut, especially in movies.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 July 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

Thor cracking skulls to "Suspended in Gaffa"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 July 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it was from the NME interview:

Christian Bale said you were supposed to have a Kate Bush dance scene in Love and Thunder?

Before Stranger Things! Yeah, there were a bunch of Kate Bush songs I wanted to have in there. We were gonna have ‘This Woman’s Work’, which was gonna be great for <a scene with> Natalie Portman’s character.

https://www.nme.com/features/film-interviews/taika-waititi-interview-thor-kate-bush-stranger-things-3264183

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 July 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed this a lot, it was very silly & fun but had kind of a nice serious message too?

Overall vibe was “ballpoint pen cartoons about comics & gods & metal band logos that you scribble in your workbook in maths class” but also lots of feels too. I like Taika’s vibe in general & the light touch w comedy & music & visual fun is what i needed

LOVED the kids, loved that they got to fight, loved Mjolnir with a pretty face on it & sparkly streamers

Thought Bale was excellent, and Rusty was a hoot in his little tunic skirt & ridic Greek accent i died

The song over the credits was great & worth the wait & very fitting lol

I would like to add that Portman looked hot af as Mighty Thor btw

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 July 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

I kinda just want to see the Portman bits (uh, I don't mean that like it sounds, lol)

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Sunday, 10 July 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link


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