Certain Rules and Regulations and Procedures: The ILX Political-Film Poll Results Thread

Good to see Black Girl this high up. Cabaret as well, though neither made my top 30

I saw Black Girl for the first time a few months ago. Thought the ending with the kid was amazing--I would have used that still, but bypassed it for reasons outlined above (it came up so often on Google, I assume it's the one image associated with the film).

I'm not entirely sure how to comment on this list, but this is a list of very good films

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28. Harlan County, U.S.A. (1976)
45 points/5 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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Seen it once, will see it again eventually. Was thinking that Harlan County, The Sorrow and the Pity, and Night and Fog has shown impressive durability on greatest-ever documentary lists (I may be missing one or two).

has = have

Someone trying to sabotage the countdown...round up the usual suspects.

27. Hiroshima mon amour (1959)
46 points/5 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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Haven't seen it for ages, but it's on the Lightbox schedule this month.

25. (tie) Duck Soup (1933)
47 points/3 votes

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25. (tie) The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
47 points/3 votes

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An inspirational tie.

My #1 😍

Occurs to me that it could be a good DBL bill with Casablanca. xp

24. Citizen Kane (1941)
47 points/5 votes

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Looked like it wouldn't place early on, got some late votes. I didn't have it on my own ballot--I guess I experience it differently--but no argument that it's political, or political enough.

23. Being There (1979)
48 points/4 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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Not my favourite film, but fascinating as a then-common view of Reagan--and I'm guessing this was in part Ashby's contribution to avoid him getting elected.

22. Munich (2005)
49 points/5 votes

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I tried again last year. Its greatness escapes me.

I'll finish off with the Top 20 tomorrow. Saw this 10 or 15 years ago; don't remember anything.

21. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943)
50 points/5 votes

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So far:

51. (tie) Get Out (2017)
51. (tie) Sansho the Bailiff (1954)
50. In the Loop (2009)
49. Bob Roberts (1992)
48. Welfare (1975)
47. The Conformist (1970)
46. The Times of Harvey Milk (1984)
44. (tie) Night of the Living Dead (1968)
44. (tie) To Be or Not to Be (1942)
43. Grand Illusion (1937)
42. The Candidate (1972)
40. (tie) Casablanca (1942)
40. (tie) I Am Cuba (1964)
38. (tie) The Great Dictator (1940)
38. (tie) The Lives of Others (2006)
37. The Leopard (1963)
35. (tie) A City of Sadness (1989)
35. (tie) Army of Shadows (1969)
34. Rome, Open City (1945)
33. A Touch of Sin (2013)
30. (tie) Black Girl (1966)
30. (tie) Cabaret (1972)
30. (tie) The Parallax View (1974)
29. A Face in the Crowd (1957)
28. Harlan County, U.S.A. (1976)
27. Hiroshima mon amour (1959)
25. (tie) Duck Soup (1933)
25. (tie) The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
24. Citizen Kane (1941)
23. Being There (1979)
22. Munich (2005)
21. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943)

I would characterize The Parallax View (which is shockingly low on this list) as something far more significant than a "chase film."

And at the very least bridges the gap I had in balloting for this poll between "great movies that have political themes/resonance" and "movies that are great political statements."

Voted for Kane and Being There, both of which elicited "oh, yeah!" reactions from me when I saw them on the noms list (I was initially afraid I didn't like enough explicitly "political" films to submit even a Top 10).

Also, I neglected to vote for Duck Soup, and I have no idea why.

If you were to total up the minutes in The Parallax View where Beatty is being chased, I don't think it would be insignificant--10 to 15 minutes? That's what it felt like last time I watched it. I realize there's more to it than that, and I tried to single out those parts. But my own feeling is that the brainwashing sequence is so memorable, it overwhelms the rest of the film, some of which is pedestrian.

I've had [In The Loop] on the shelf for years--will make an effort to finally watch it.

The series is even better, and you've got time now!

I like how unceremonious the killings/assassinations are in TPV.

I missed this but the results look interesting (except for being there which i hate). I haven't seen 10 of the ones that have made it so far. I would have voted for Bob Roberts, Harlan County, Kane and The Leopard for sure.

colonel blimp - a great film only improved by churchill's disdain for it

love the movie but its politics are its worst part -- advocating for torture and retaliatory civilian bombings IMO

Hmm it's been a while since I've seen it. Just love the friendship at the centre of it.

The retaliatory bombings, yes I can see where it kinda argues for that. But I don't remember much about torture?

The friendship that ensures between two people who should be enemies is surely part of its good politics?

I was going to hold off on this till tomorrow, but may as well push it through while Robert Mueller grabs some lunch.

20. Advise & Consent (1962)
52 points/4 votes

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I love this film. I still haven't totally figured out why I keep rewatching it every few months.

19. Chinatown (1974)
53 points/6 votes

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Didn't include this on my own ballot, which is not a reflection of how much I love it.

18. Z (1969)
54 points/5 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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16. (tie) A Grin Without a Cat (1977)
55 points/4 votes
(2 #1 votes)

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16. (tie) Taxi Driver (1976)
55 points/4 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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Don't mean to vote not-in-character, but I had the first on my ballot and not the second. I don't claim to understand every nuance of A Grin Without a Cat, but the tone registers--derisive, sardonic, disillusioned--and the four-hour cascade of footage is incredible.

15. Carlos (2010)
57 points/5 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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I changed my mind about not commenting on omissions from the IndieWire decade-end list; Carlos not being on there was a surprise.

I'm going to put this monologue on hold for a couple of hours--more Mueller.

I was one of the two #1 votes for A Grin without a Cat (entirely within character).

Also placed Advise & Consent within my top 10, maybe even top 5?

You had it third...Golfing tonight, so I gotta finish this up.

14. Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)
61 points/5 votes

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If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

13. Battleship Potemkin (1925)
65 points/7 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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Earliest film on the list..I saw it in film class sometime between 1925 and 2019.

12. The Sorrow and the Pity (1969)
66 points/5 votes
(1 #1 vote)

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11. JFK (1991)
72 points/7 votes

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Think I reached my limit last time I watched this; it looks worse to me every time out, mostly due to Costner.

Top 10.

10. Do the Right Thing (1989)
73 points/7 votes

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I had Malcolm X on my ballot.

xp "You're as crazy as your mama. Goes to show it's in the genes."

DTRT is probably the closest I came to voting for a movie just because I love it, regardless of its qualifications as a "political" movie, which it does fuiud.

I love how much ILX loves JFK.

9. 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days (2007)
74 points/7 votes

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8. The Rules of the Game (1939)
83 points/6 votes

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Yesss!

I know these things aren't supposed to unfold like a race, but I'll have to step up the pace for the last few.

7. Paths of Glory (1957)
86 points/9 votes

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I think this was one of two in the top seven that picked up a lot of votes towards the end. One of my two favourite war films, along with Casualties of War.

Bummed I missed this poll!

Without overdoing it, I tried to get it out there--a nominating thread and voting thread preceded this.

6. All the President’s Men (1976)
88 points/6 votes
(2 #1 votes)

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#1 on my own list, although it's really more a film about journalism (which, admittedly, it deifies) than politics.

I believe I did give Pakula two slots on my ballot. But if not, I def prefer Parallax.

Looks like you just had Parallax.

Another surprising omission: no Jordan Peele. (One or both of the first two, I'd say, though I know others like the third.)

"Love, love, love A Grin Without a Cat"

Hate, hate, hate the low ranking.

That top ten is also not good. Though that's a great No1.

#81, showing the White Night Riots and the candlelight march, The Times of Harvey Milk is an amazing film with a really moving ending. I think everyone should watch it.

TNR’s link to the NYT article in 1985 shows how conservative and bigoted the NYT was at the time.

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/22/us/dan-white-killer-of-san-francisco-mayor-a-suicide.html

They refused to use the word ‘gay’ which was the term everyone had already long accepted at that time. Their pigheadedness went on for years after that and eventually became ridiculous and a topic of conversation among my friends. They kept referring to gay people as ‘homosexuals’, a term that had long since been seen as derogatory and that had been used in many negative contexts.