The BBC

Yeah, tonight seemed a rum night for a vehicle for a right-wing comedian to get an outing to go "lol middle class guardianistas, what are they like, eh?". I lasted five minutes.

Geoff Norcott proving that being a unfunny cunt of a comedian hoovering up licence fee money on the BBC is not exclusively a middle class pursuit either - despite appearances to the contrary.

"He claims to be the only outwardly Conservative Party voter on the British comedy circuit"

lol, as if

He's got Gloria Del Piero on slagging off the Labour Party. Good stuff.

I bet that took some heavy persuasion.

Good job that he himself supports a largely working class party.

his whole gimmick that he's the only person on this fucking wretched comic circuit to be an obvious tory voter is so laughable. it's more of a challenge working out from at least half of them which ones aren't tory voters - then most of the rest are arch lib melts who aren't very funny either!

LOL @ him rounding up some students, who didn't seem especially middle class tbh, doing his act for them, as they sat stony-faced and uncomprehending, and being told they didn't think he was funny. He then explained this away as them being too sensitive and taking things too seriously when in fact it was because NOT FUNNY.

I feel for the lad, I'm sure before all his Blairite compadres started taking on the real enemy he at least looked like he was different

oh god I might end up watching it - just to see the arrogant unfunny prick doing his Voight-Kampff humour test.

Britain already has Jim Davidson, why do we need another unfunny Tory git? Or is this an attempt by the BBC to make John Bishop look like less of a wanker? (I have still only seen approximately 30 seconds of Bishop's act and that was more than enough)

Dunno if this is a post for here or lol we’re all gonna die but I will probably spend too much of the next few days picturing ian hislop’s fucking chortling baby with anuses for eyes face

> thrilled to discover that lying is an exclusively middle class pursuit.

With the school thing he said that only the middle class had the resources to keep up such a pretence.

I watched the London news, which was a Boris election special, and it started with a list of all the great things had done for London whilst mayor - Boris bikes, the Olympics... He put London on the map...

(It went on to the garden bridge, the sweatbox buses, Heathrow, the riots etc so it wasn't all undue praise. And the vox pops were 50/50. Such a vapid 25 minutes though)

bbc doubling down on the distinction between 'said something racist' and 'is a racist' in upholding a complaint against a black journalist who was apparently perfectly entitled to say the former about trump, but not the latter

Explaining the Editorial Complaints Unit's decision on BBC Breakfast and President Trump's comments pic.twitter.com/LuJdjPNZll

— BBC Press Office (@bbcpress) September 26, 2019

now i'm not totally thick, i get where they're coming from, but bbc news reports say things like 'the conservatives believe that their programme will lower costs and increase competition' which is just as much mind-reading of motive than this is, and arguably more insidious. for instance conservatives may actually believe their programme will enrich their friends and increase party donations. etc

and also, of course, she never even said trump "is a racist" in the first place. pretty poor imo.

she said something along the lines of "I'm not calling anybody racist"

right :/

Forgot about this thread - more appropriate to paste this here

1) On Brendan O’Neill: on live television people say unpredictable things. O’Neill’s assertion that there “should” be riots if Brexit delayed was immediately picked up on and pushed back by Adam Fleming as well as other guests. O’Neill then appeared to backtrack on his comments.

— Rob Burley (@RobBurl) September 27, 2019

I was listening to much obfuscation and waffle from some BBC head on Today this morning. It's impossible to take this seriously as an impartiality issue, cos Fiona Bruce, Keunsberg, Robinson all should be getting the same treatment as Naga if they are truly concerned. It's completely bizarre that they gone to town on this one i.e. a clear cut case of nothing to investigate here.

the followup is great too xp

2) It is for Mr O’Neill to defend his position but given we can’t know what he was going to say in advance, all we can do is push back on air and allow other guests to challenge and that’s exactly what Adam Fleming did.

— Rob Burley (@RobBurl) September 27, 2019

'look, how were we supposed to know that this avowed piece of shit would say something inflammatory on our show anyway he'll be back on next week kthxbye'

weird that the beeb would choose to uphold a complaint about racism against a nonwhite presenter while ignoring complaints at least equally as valid against white presenters, what a tangled web, rly makes u think

Just a thought Rob but have you thought you could avoid such a situation by inviting, say, a balloon on a stick with a stupid face drawn on it, thereby getting much the same level of insight without risking calls for violence?

— Alan White (@aljwhite) September 27, 2019

Just a thought Rob but have you thought you could avoid such a situation by inviting, say, a balloon on a stick with a stupid face drawn on it, thereby getting much the same level of insight without risking calls for violence?

— Alan White (@aljwhite) September 27, 2019

I was listening to much obfuscation and waffle from some BBC head on Today this morning. It's impossible to take this seriously as an impartiality issue, cos Fiona Bruce, Keunsberg, Robinson all should be getting the same treatment as Naga if they are truly concerned. It's completely bizarre that they gone to town on this one i.e. a clear cut case of nothing to investigate here.

I remember naively thinking she might be an improvement on Dimbers after her first QT performance. The DA one was her 2nd ep I think but it quickly disabused me of any such daft notions!

I was listening to much obfuscation and waffle from some BBC head on Today this morning. It's impossible to take this seriously as an impartiality issue, cos Fiona Bruce, Keunsberg, Robinson all should be getting the same treatment as Naga if they are truly concerned. It's completely bizarre that they gone to town on this one i.e. a clear cut case of nothing to investigate here.

This is utterly, completely otm. I don't understand why they're running w/ this.

The BBC pushed out a callous, miswritten statement written on iPhone notes in response to hundreds of complaints about Laura K’s conduct. They have their producers cuntishly dismissing concerns about platforming fascists on twitter. I think it shows which of their employees they consider to be worth protecting. Message received if you’re a poc at the BBC with any sort of public presence, I guess.

It is completely maddening that there isn't even any independent regulator like ofcom overseeing the bbc

so infuriating when you want to escalate a complaint and they're just like "we think what we did was fine" and that's it

ofcom does regulate the BBC!

fwiw the BBC is inundated with bullshit right-wing troll complaints constantly, no idea why this partic one got upheld. I cannot see the merits.

Let’s all just calm down. Brendon O’Neill just went on tv and said people should riot. It’s not like he said anything awful like “racism is bad”.

— Nish Kumar (@MrNishKumar) September 27, 2019

In the politics of the present, when we are in a politics of name-calling and insult, I think it’s probably unwise of the BBC to be calling out people for being liars or racist.

Yeah now that there’s all these racists all over the place we’d best not upset them. Is the ‘liars’ bit purely to emphasise why they’re going so easy on Boris? The fucking cheek of these cunts blaming some kind of malevolent ‘climate’ as though they’re not a massive part of helping normalise it in the first place.

I watched the Naga thing today and she went as far as she possibly could to avoid calling Trump a racist cunt. Fuck the BBC.

it's totally ludicrous.

it was entirely within Munchetty’s right to describe those comments as racist on air ... however, Jordan insisted she had breached editorial guidelines because she said the comments made her feel “absolutely furious” and that implied she was making a judgment on Trump’s personality, saying it is not the BBC’s job to be “calling out people for being liars or racist”.

This would be ridiculous wishy washy hand-waving even if she had called him out as racist but she didn't (though she might have well as done, because he is). She said she was:

"Absolutely furious, and I can imagine lots of people in this country will be feeling absolutely furious a man in that position thinks it’s OK to skirt the lines by using language like that.”

🚨 NEW: The BBC executive committee have now emailed staff about Naga Munchetty which looks like a total reverse ferret — “The very limited finding was not about Naga’s comments on racism. That part of the complaint was rejected”

— Mark Di Stefano 🤙🏻 (@MarkDiStef) September 27, 2019

So the BBC has overturned the complaint:

🚨 Breaking: BBC director-general Tony Hall sends staff another email regarding the furore around the Naga Munchetty complaint.

He’s personally reviewed the original decision, overturning it.

— Mark Di Stefano 🤙🏻 (@MarkDiStef) September 30, 2019

Amazing how the BBC considered it necessary to go to all this effort to satisfy an unsatisfiable person, whose real problem was having to look at someone whose face he didn’t like.
https://theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/30/bbc-racism-row-naga-munchetty-complaint-was-also-about-dan-walker

“These two presenters have never made any secret of their left-wing and anti-Trump bias but usually in more subtle ways, such as eye-rolling and looks of exasperation when reporting on news stories. However, personal commentary on controversial news stories is surely going too far and is way outside of their remit. They are employed as presenters not political commentators and as such should at least feign impartiality. It’s about time they were reminded of this.”

If you're that up yourself and bothered about news values why the fuck are you watching BBC Breakfast?

Funnily enough a couple of my less reconstructed Socialist chums decided Naga was a government stooge months ago, over not much iirc

The entitlement expressed in that complaint made me think that it was made by someone foul and prominent, otherwise why give it anything other than short shrift?

I've never liked Naga Munchetty much either tbh.

(xp)

I have no strong feelings but anybody looks impressive sat next to Dan Walker

Goes without saying really.

people who refer to the BBC's "left-wing bias" have mostly become deranged or they are just very thick.

1000+ complaints about the brexit coverage in the last month. and the success of the naga complaint is just going to encourage them.

Response from BBC to my complaint about Laura Kuenssberg’s “punch” tweets: pic.twitter.com/NV2Q10vd0u

— Christmas Eve ain't what it used to be (@bloonface) December 11, 2019

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As the BBC notes, their employee apologized for something she did. The BBC had nothing to do with this, scarcely knows who she is and cannot recall offhand if they've met her. They suggest you take it up with her directly because, really, they were all drinking tea in a sandwich shop at the time and have witnesses to prove it.

It's almost as if they want the licence abolished at this point

Perhaps they do. If you think the BBCs days are numbered, you may as well be in place to get some chunks of it when it’s sold off.