Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Wtf is your problem?

(sic is making a joke because you wrote dfag instead of dgaf)

ahhhh

xp huh? I was taking your point abt it being a dead horse

sorry for appending another thought that got cross-posted in the interim? don't shoot!

or I don't know Moodles maybe you are srsly offended by that thought

clearly I have crossed some avid gamers, I'm out

I'm not a gamer, but yes I'm offended.

now is the time for mourning not politics

This is a bullshit POV to throw at me just because I don't want to engage in a video games argument. It is absolutely time for politics, and arguing about games is a distraction from that.

why is it so triggering

Fuck off with this shit. No one is "triggered", in fact I don't think anyone is even trying to say video games are perfect on here. I, for one, am very annoyed that after 30 people were killed you are sucking up oxygen on here with a topic that is very tangential to stopping this plague of terrorism.

it wasn't meant in earnest, chill out. You happened to use a GOP talking point almost verbatim, I think unironically, and I built on it for you.

Distraction from what? Did I just prevent you from hurrying to the chamber to cast a deciding vote? Are you picketing Smith & Wesson?

Anyway there's a poll now, take it out over there. Holy smokes.

Fox News did to our parents what they thought video games would do to us.

— Ryan Scott (@ryan_scott) August 3, 2019

<<< rejoins ILX plan to put an end to plague of terrorism >>>

Jesus Christ, you're an asshole

dude

easy

OMG, can't believe the discussion in here today. I don't even know how many thousands of people I've murdered in video games. IRL, I've been in one legit fight ever (in eighth grade), I detest guns, and I deplore violence. I guess I just need to play GTA a few more times until my psycho spree killer mode unlocks.

I don't think violence in media is necessarily a net positive (particularly with respect to its potential unsupervised kids and people with an inability to differentiate reality vs. fantasy) but it's not the cause of any of this.

Impact, not potential. Sorry, video games have rottened by branes.

yesterday a disturbed 17-y-o threw a little kid off the Tate Modern in London. hard not to imagine how things might have been different in the land of the free.

I blame it on the 'This is Sparta!' meme.

The 6 year old could have shot him first.

How are you supposed to tell a toy gun apart from the real thing under such perilous circumstances?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/29/american-toddlers-are-still-shooting-people-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/

Some good news: 8chan is now offline. At last.

now do ilx

think the opprobrium aimed at hadrian is a bit strong lads, even while arguing against his point

Right, exactly. Can you imagine any American regime treating Richard Spencer like Anwar al-Awlaki? I'm not calling for them to, I'm just asking, what's the difference between them? https://t.co/6IkEd04NzR

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) August 5, 2019

In the wake of every spree shooting there are ten more aborted rants in my email drafts folder about how the problem is CCW permits, that uniquely American phenomenon. Racism and terrorism exist everywhere but only in the states— all 50 of them, thank you scotus— is it legal to carry concealed firearms.

Or carry openly, like here in Texas!

So not to be one of those people, but has there been any further verification that Dayton shooter identified himself as a 'leftist' and a Warren backer? apparently on a twitter profile. Or is this some kind of right-wing disinfo that isn't getting any play in actual press?

" Some good news: 8chan is now offline. At last." yeah their bot protection/CDN dropped them but presumably something somewhere is still hosting it. I think it's being DDOSed now.

nyt summarizing tweets:

President Trump on Monday called for Republicans and Democrats to work together to strengthen background checks for prospective gun buyers and proposed “marrying” new measures with new immigration laws — two of the most politically divisive issues facing lawmakers.

the gall

the fucking gall

That's what they like about him.

His speech this morning is fine but I can’t imagine him actually following through on this.

His speech this morning is fine

No.

"fine"

have we really sunk this low?

Yes.

swift and decisive death penalty!

cages for brown ppl and the mentally ill

So destructive...

npr pundit pointing out how DJT called out white supremacy in his speech, finding it noteworthy because in the past he has “found it difficult” to do so.

*click*

Baby steps.

that speech is nothing more than signaling there will be a poison pill regarding immigration attached to any gun control bill so he can blame the dems

So not to be one of those people, but has there been any further verification that Dayton shooter identified himself as a 'leftist' and a Warren backer? apparently on a twitter profile. Or is this some kind of right-wing disinfo that isn't getting any play in actual press?

The most credible thing that heavy dot com has produced is that the Greene County Board of Elections does list his party affiliation as Dem: https://greene.ohioboe.com/apps/vtrpolldetails.aspx?idnum=212004. Mainstream media is probably not reporting on this angle since there is no reason to believe that the shooting was politically motivated and so it doesn't seem particularly relevant; mainstream media OTM.

so Trump's stance pretty much seems to be "the manifesto was extremely good, but actually shooting people is bad"

That, and 'video games, fake news and poor mental hygiene are bad'.

Am I the only one even slightly surprised that the El Paso shooter was taken with NO SHOTS FIRED BY COPS when others of us get straight up murdered just for opening a car door too fast?? Or are we all just used to this shit by now?

On the face of it the speech was fine; he made several points I completely agree with. The issue is that it was hypocritical coming from him, given that he regularly signal boosts online hate himself. Which works to our favor and his detriment. Also, even hinting that he supports background checks won't play well with his base (and if it does, then great; I'd love for them all to support background checks). Not sure how well his blaming video games will play with a lot of his base either for that matter. The old ones, yes; the younger ones?

calling for swift, decisive punishment by death not ok

xp yeah there's a lil thing called ethos

On the face of it the speech was fine

he got one of the cities wrong, said a whole bunch of bullshit, and blamed both video games and bipartisanship for massacres

(sic is making a joke because you wrote dfag instead of dgaf)

I wasn't joking! and got much more confused trying to parse this explanation in context: anyway sic I am saying that if I had a son I would say nope I don't think that's healthy, play FIFA or your guitar or jerk off instead

but hey, he remembered not to congratulate