Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/dayton-shooter-pornogrind-band

Great, heavy metal is to blame

"The band's song titles are explicitly sexually violent, such as "Preteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter" and "Cunt Stuffed With Medical Waste - Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse." "

akm, Monday, 5 August 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

Pornogrind is a subgenre of a fast and extreme kind of heavy metal called grindcore, which is known for its mostly dark, satirical themes of sexual violence and gore delivered for shock value.

beside the point but can anyone at buzzfeed news write

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 5 August 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

The legacy of Anal Cunt lives on.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 5 August 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

As a metalhead, i get more and more concerned about alt right presence in the genre. Far right fans are hardly something new, but the dude from Pyrexia was also disturbed. At least his body count was low.

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 August 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

Hey so I just saw a story about how the Dayton shooter kept a kill list and a rape list in high school so just spitballing here but maybe patriarchal violence is a problem.

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, August 5, 2019 12:16 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

Was bummed when I saw that one of the Sunn O))) guys let white power bands run ads in his zine in the '90s... but wasn't very surprised.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

xp to a post far above about 8chan shutting down: I don't think shutting sites like 8chan down is a great answer. Maybe when they get to a certain size it's a good idea to break it up like an angry mob on the verge of a riot, but the downside is that unlike a terror org based on the other side of the world where language and ethnicity is a barrier, these boards are out in the open and pretty easy for anybody to monitor. I don't know why law enforcement wouldn't already be doing what many reporters are already doing, and camping out on these boards (and chat rooms) to study them and to try to understand and mitigate acts of violence. I know I've read that LEA has obtained IP records from popular image boards in the past, directly from the site owners. In a way these boards are a gift to LEA.

beard papa, Monday, 5 August 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link

Am I the only one even slightly surprised that the El Paso shooter was taken with NO SHOTS FIRED BY COPS when others of us get straight up murdered just for opening a car door too fast?? Or are we all just used to this shit by now?

I mean, I can only speak for myself but I’m more surprised that they killed the Dayton shooter

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

the feds absolutely monitor those boards but i wouldn't trust them to actually be good at it

ciderpress, Monday, 5 August 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

yeah, has that monitoring actually prevented anything yet?

rob, Monday, 5 August 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

the benefit of 8chan getting shut down as an organizing platform is more valuable than whatever intel u might crib from it

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dallas-activist-rakem-balogun-may-be-first-targeted-under-fbis-new-black-identity-extremist-threat-label-11705688

Let's be real, the FBI doesn't put white supremacists high on its list of targets.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link

8chanclid=IwAR1eHHFcPui_Z7k_38XLRMG2jBREe4Gm2j7CjIrXEiBulSnMOyaIiMbG93c

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link

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j., Monday, 5 August 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

Oh great, sic copycats

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 August 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

better than sick copycats

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 5 August 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

ctrl c ctrl @

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 5 August 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

Well that's sorted

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 August 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

A small bit of good news:

Rob Monster tried providing backup services to 8chan.

As a result, he and his company Epik were dropped by Voxility, which was providing their upstream service.

So now, not only is 8chan down, but so is the Daily Stormer, which was hosted by Epik.

❤️🖤🤣 https://t.co/R4pUNy9lkg

— AntiFash Gordon (@AntiFashGordon) August 6, 2019

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 08:23 (four years ago) link

hey the GUN doesn't PULL THE TRIGGER, I never knew that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

xpost That is fantastic news! Fuck those clowns, have fun with your new Tripod site.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

they're going to tor which will certainly cut down their casual and less fervent readership.

akm, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

If it gets them the hell out of my random google search results, I'm happy.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

"You can mine your own coooaaall....MINE YOUR OWN COOOAAALLL"

nashwan, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

I see CNN is running with the "Dayton shooter had extreme left Twitter feed" story

Trump is def right about the mainstream media but for pretty much the exact opposite reason he thinks he is

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

Gotta teach the controversy.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

looks like a pair of good guys with guns got in an argument and then a bystander got shot.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

"Thank God this wasn’t anything near what happened in El Paso only a small gunfight in a crowded store."

Also, how much of a "good guy with a gun" are you gonna be if you fire multiple shots at a nearby target and don't hit him at all?

nickn, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

well it's a good guy with a gun, not a good guy who's good with a gun

j., Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

Oh great, sic copycats

If you published bogus news/ads like this in a newspaper you could be prosecuted. Facebook used it to make $3.7B in Australia in 2018. Incredible. pic.twitter.com/utp63gjKeK

— Dan Ziffer (@danziffer) August 6, 2019

in the same year, the only remaining non-Murdoch daily newspaper publisher got sold to a commercial TV station for 2 billion. facebook is not less dangerous than 8chan.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

"I see CNN is running with the "Dayton shooter had extreme left Twitter feed" story"

lasted about half a day (in real news; of course I'm sure Trumptards on social media are beating it to death). IMO it only underscores the need for more gun control. Fuck if it makes them support gun control then who cares. Anyway, in this case I don't see how his political inclinations are indicative of anything since he didn't leave behind some antifa manifesto or something, unlike the el paso shooter.

akm, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

I've been seeing he killed his sister for dating a black man, so leftist shmeftist, he's a righty.

nickn, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

At least in the news one link that was posted itt, that was based entirely on someone on twitter theorizing that’s why he might’ve done it. Did something of substance come out since then?

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

I think I saw it on a news report as well, but they may have been running with the rumor. His sister was killed there, so if not that's a hell of a coincidence.

nickn, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link

But I don't see it anywhere except as speculation, so maybe not.

nickn, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

He just doesn’t seem very comforting pic.twitter.com/5LLUoh6OUN

— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) August 7, 2019

j., Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link

Save that shit for the trump c/d thread

El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 August 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

going for that "shit eating gargoyle" look that he does so well

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 August 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

this dumb fuck and his staff are freaking out that Sherrod Brown 'mischaracterized' the visit to the hospital when Brown actually said nothing but complimentary shit. I get it when Trump is fucking wrong and lying about these things but it's a bit weird to see his staff go all in on something completely, demonstrably false.

akm, Thursday, 8 August 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

what am I saying, that's not weird at all. sorry.

akm, Thursday, 8 August 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

yeah Sherrod Brown seemed to be the only guy who was actually positive about Trump Being There.

Ludo, Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

These maps are incredible https://t.co/zJkdXKuVSO

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) August 7, 2019

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 August 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

good thing the number of gun owners has been trending down. bad news is they own more guns than ever.

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 8 August 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/08/friends-say-dayton-shooters-slain-sibling-transgender-man/

Cofer was one of the first victims shot during his brother’s murderous rampage. Police aren’t sure whether Betts intended to kill him or if Cofer was attempting to stop the carnage as it started. The two had traveled together with Cofer’s boyfriend to the neighborhood where the attack occurred without warning.

https://www.advocate.com/news/2019/8/07/report-sibling-killed-dayton-shooting-was-trans-man-jordan-cofer

Okay wow.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 8 August 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

strange.

Dayton shooter was with his best friend who presumably has started talking to police (he was also shot); I assume he's the only person who is going to be able to give any indication of what might have been going on just before this happened. But maybe he doesn't know either.

akm, Thursday, 8 August 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

I have it on good authority that he was actually Antifa

frogbs, Thursday, 8 August 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

not a shooting spree, but:

A man in his 20s, outfitted with weapons, body armor, military-style fatigues and more than 100 rounds of ammunition, was arrested Thursday after causing a mass panic at a Walmart in Missouri.

According to local CNN affiliate KYTV, no shots were fired but the man was filming himself walking around the store with his phone.

A manager pulled the fire alarm to evacuate the store, and an off-duty firefighter detained the man until police arrived.

“All we know is the fact that he walked in here heavily armed with body armor on, in military fatigues and caused a great amount of panic inside the store. So he certainly had the capability the potential to harm people,” Springfield police lieutenant Mike Lucas told KYTV. “And then obviously what’s happened in Texas and Dayton and all that kind of stuff in the last seven days — that’s on everybody’s mind.”

The shooting massacre in El Paso took place at a Walmart store.

and as a subscriber-only TPM article that i will lightly googleproof rightly points out, what is fucked up is that the whole incident was probably legal, at least in missouri:

A man in his twenties with weapons, body armor, more than a hundred r0unds of ammunition and army fatigues was arrested at a Missouri Walmart yesterday, apparently for making ‘terroristic threats’. He had gone into the W4lmart and basically just walked around and filmed people fleeing in fear with his iPhone. Local po1ice seem to have made the decision that these acts in themselves constituted terroristic threats. 1t’s not clear he said anything or pointed his weapons at anyone. Needless to say that seems like a pretty reasonable deduction. But what is important to n0te is that in many states in the country – including Missouri – it is not clear what law he was breaking.

Many states now allow open carry of 1ong guns. You can carry ammunition and 1 don’t think there are laws against appearing in public in body armor. Indeed, there is a whole subculture of gun activists who go into big box stores and diners and other public places openly c4rrying long guns as a sort of pro-gun performance art.

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 August 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link


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