Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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have you guys heard of torrentz

Number None, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

thing I love about Gas Station TV is that it has its own anchors and bumper music and it calls itself "GSTV" like a real channel that real people would really watch

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

pdf manuals are a fucking godsend


pdf-only manuals are bullshit though. my continued inability to delve deeply into the workings of my one modern synthesizer/sequencer has a lot to do with not having a paper manual to thumb through

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

ITT ILX is crotchety old geezers

at a pettier level, all the changes in shaving since idk the 1960s or 70s.

― Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:26 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I had a dream about straight razors last night they had floral and paisley handles. I wonder if they actually exist.

The airport self check in thing really works for me. I have a rfid doodad on my case. I put the bag on the belt, scan my phone and the case gets whisked away, to reappear at my destination. I check my lugged a lot more because of this (free to check a bag in Australia). Of course people without the app and the doodad still have to struggle with the screen and self tagging.

A lot of this is the UX getting way ahead of a backend that has barely evolved since people were handwriting paper tickets on the red carbon paper stuff. (Or equivalents for other industries)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

it wasn't really so long ago that devices like radios, TVs, stereo components, and even personal computers were designed to be repaired and kept in service for many years; now the same kinds of devices go directly to the landfill as soon as they fail

this is effed up and probably true. anything with any lead components is supposed to go to household hazardous waste disposal.

one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

This may be an Australian thing too but cellphones have so much higher quality than landlines, particularly on a cell to cell call although even that lags behind FaceTime/WhatsApp/line/WeChat audio which I find myself using more and more.

To be fair I have no idea what our landline number is, or if the handset is still plugged in. I had to get it to get dsl my only interaction with people, presumably, on landlines is call centre workers who all sound like they are calling from a wind up field telephone at the bottom of a well.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

Number None otm, pretty much every film you'd care to watch is available to download from private torrent sites like PtP and KG.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

Every week, the library emails me a reminder that I've got five MP3s to download for free, and every week, I think "They don't have to do this."

pplains, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

stuntmen and papier mache >>> cgi

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

well yeah

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link


pdf-only manuals are bullshit though. my continued inability to delve deeply into the workings of my one modern synthesizer/sequencer has a lot to do with not having a paper manual to thumb through

you know that you can PRINT THEM OUT right?

sarahell, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

first i would need a laser printer

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

Or how about at the fucking gas pump? Starting to pump gas, and then a TV screen magically pops on and starts loudly playing commercials or cable news - just what the world needed

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, August 14, 2019 3:26 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

not saying this is a solution for every instance, but (seemingly) more often than not, when I have pressed every button around the edge of one of these screens, one of those buttons (typically not labeled) mutes the sound

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

You can print anything you want at a UPS store or a Kinkos, sad lol

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

Fedex Office yo

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

an inkjet would work too

sarahell, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

I’m too busy being told to insert the credit card, waiting forever while nothing happens, then being told not to remove the card as soon as I do, whether it’s been in there for 2 seconds or months, to worry about figuring out how off the advertisement screen

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

the only thing to do when a gas station tv starts blaring at you is to walk off to an awkward place in the middle distance where you can't hear or see anything imo

cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link

Don't they usually have mute buttons?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

i haven't pumped gas in years. This is all fascinating.

Yerac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

Or how about at the fucking gas pump? Starting to pump gas, and then a TV screen magically pops on and starts loudly playing commercials or cable news - just what the world needed

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open)

have managed to mostly avoid this plague by living in the one american state where under no circumstances is an ordinary person allowed to just pump their own gas

i'm cool with this, even if it means i have to actually socially interact with someone i wouldn't have to otherwise

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

the only thing to do when a gas station tv starts blaring at you is to walk off to an awkward place in the middle distance where you can't hear or see anything imo

― cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:23 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Don't they usually have mute buttons?

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:25 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

second button from the top on the right side works for me. i was really happy when i found that out because that shit is basically assault

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link

This sounds nightmarish, like rushomancy I am thankful to live in Oregon

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

I don't think I've ever been at a gas station with TVs at the pumps, unless I'm just really good at blocking them out.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link

I have to go to gas stations a lot, though.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

We had to rejoin the car having masses this year and we got a Chevy Bolt. I plug my car into an outlet in front of the house. Then I go inside to watch Twitch on my laptop.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link

I usually find a mute button somewhere but I still resent being forced to go through the thought process: "time to punp some gas. Oh, a TV just came on! Let me see if I can find the mute button."

I always wonder what the monsters behind that stuff think about it. Like do they imagine there are people out there in the world who go home and say over dinner "honey, I saw something interesting on Gas Station TV today..."

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link

no way, they imagine how much ad space they can fill it with, period

j., Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:40 (four years ago) link

Automated phone systems where you have to speak your response ... if I wanted to actually speak responses, I would talk to a person, just let me press stupid buttons, ok.

― sarahell, Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:05 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Usually get caught off-guard by these when I'm calling from someplace that requires silence, like my office or the bus, resulting in me having to whisper-shout my answers.

Phone: In a few words, please tell us what you're calling about!
Me: customerservice.
Phone: I'm sorry, I didn't get that! In a few words...
Me: cus! tom! er! ser! vice!

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah these vocal automated systems are awful. I don’t want to talk to a machine... and customer services in general are a kafkaian nightmare nowadays, even with humans (who are located half the world away and don’t have a clue what they talk about... ) so in the end you never reach a person in charge.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link

Just tying together the self-checkout and being assaulted by random nonsense themes, there was a brief period this year where Marks and Spencer self checkout machines started screaming at you in the voices of Ant and Dec mid-transaction

Also Virgin Trains have toilets that do a shit comedy routine about how anything that isn't piss, shit or toilet paper is bad for their digestion. I reckon that was better when it was just a sign that said "don't flush random stuff"

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 15 August 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

Poundland has been using the voices of dracula, father christmas and other seasonal characters on its check out machines, it doesn't seem to make the staff who supervise them very happy.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 August 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link

stuntmen and papier mache >>> cgi

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, August 14, 2019 5:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yesssssssssss CGI is garbage

na (NA), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

Thirded

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Many AI voice systems allow you to press numbers, but don't advertise it.

My company's AI, if you press the number corresponding to the order it appears in the menu, it recognizes it.

But i am more a fan of keypad entry in general

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

what i find interesting is they're starting to design phone menuing systems to recognize when a customer is frustrated or enraged and respond to that. which is an... interesting approach.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

"It sounds like you're upset. Would you like a handjob?"

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

I thought most phone systems you can bypass all the automation by just pressing 0 and it takes you to a person? Or is that no longer the case?

Yerac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

if you aren't printing long documents at the office why even work in an office

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

OTM

j., Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

Lots of AI voice systems do not reply to 0.

Mine, you have to say "Representative" or wait on the line

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

Those automated phone systems that are like 'Okay, got it. Just a second while we check your blooby-blorp. (fake typing sound)'...nobody needs that and who do you think you're fooling.

The automated voicemail service at my work shouts everything that isn't part of the standard template greeting. 'OLD LUNCH...you have...FOUR...unheard messages.'

I guess my general gripe is that annoying automated systems are often more annoying than dealing with a real person even if that real person was just hired two days ago and is struggling to read the script. So yes, I generally just keep hitting '0' like a maniac.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

You said "fuck you, asshole". Is that correct? Say yes...or no.

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

Movie discussion makes me happy I live near this place

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(Considering donating to their wish list)

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

I mean in some sense the concept of a phone as a text-composing device itself is the example of this that impinges on my life most frequently. You CAN send someone a text from your phone instead of writing them an email on your laptop, but the incredible pain of typing on a phone has still not gone away, and presumably never will, since people mostly feel the current system is good enough. (And some people, like my wife, are lucky enough to have voices the phone can clearly read, and they dictate everything, though this doesn't solve the problem of writing any text you want to be other than a first draft.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

xpost That is rad.

Progress will have to pry my trove of physical media out of my cold, dead hands.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

The only VHS I still own is Midnight Madness and it IS ON THEIR LIST. (but they only want laserdiscs and dvds)

Yerac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

meant to say CONSIDER DONATING TO THEIR WISHLIST!

they've been really successful, mostly bc it's a flat $12/mo instead of per movie. I think that model could work anywhere, people are aware of streaming's limitations and how shitty the options often are, but it took BV a long time to open: raising money, rebuilding a collection from old video stores, estate sales, donations... it took a while but DAMN it's great.

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

Don't know if this quite fits in the thread, but USPS package tracking has gone from precise and reliable to absolutely shit over the past few years.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link


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