The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

have you missed the central premise of 2049, which is that the 'humans' can now seemingly procreate themselves, or is that built in to 'as well to be human'?

tbh i cannot see how you could have looked forward to this based on the original (well, whichever original) and then not thought it a miraculously worthy addition.

imo yr objections would almost have to be objections in principle.

You're conversing with ledge, right?

Like, the whole master/slave thing is just… how things are? It's description rather than speculation, which is more exciting to me.

How should we and how will we treat artificial beings is pretty speculative?

xp first q was (clumsily) checking with your three pillar questions to see if that element was taken into account

second post was a fuck yall to anyone claiming this wasnt excellent

xp its not speculative in the movie, is it

ofc you could argue that any future/science fiction is a question, but

xp first q was (clumsily) checking with your three pillar questions to see if that element was taken into account

Ah, I see. Then yes, at least to my mind.

xp its not speculative in the movie, is it

the speculation is in whether that's how things should be or will be.

you may argue that the answer to those questions is clearly a) definitely not and b) most likely.

Sounds like there's a bit of substance there after all.

in the original, yep :)

I would watch 2049 again, I only really appreciated the original the second or third time around.

It’s not like those questions didn’t carry over into 2049.

ledge, if you rewatch id be interested to see what elements you think it falls down on (ito whats not yknow finn-critique "imo they shouldve done this but where you think whats there botches or is lacking)

I do remember the obviously sexist elements (low maintenance pleasure gal, giant blue tits) being pretty offputting.

It’s a dystopia iirc.

i’d be with you there if the ‘low maintenance pleasure gal’ didn’t represent one of the most interesting existential questions in a movie which is filled with them

i remember, just last night, thinking about how ilx would engage with depiction of things they did not themselves agree with in this movie, a work of fiction showing bad things that clearly invites us to think about these bad things as bad things

State-sponsored misogyny is an uninteresting question?

i had missed k's boss possibly giving him a come-on during a drinking scene tbh, which would at least provide some measure of .... idk balance but yknow

a work of fiction

c'mon

showing bad things that clearly invites us to think about these bad things as bad things

in a medium and genre where same bad things are frequently presented as good things.

‘k

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://miro.medium.com/max/1313/0*aMrKipFLO1ZsheWJ.

I should watch this again, I'm just worried that I won't like it as much as the first time. Seeing this on a really good IMAX screen is one of the best movie going experiences I've had.

i thought this was a very good piece on why 2049 rules ass
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/10/14/the-poetry-of-blade-runner-2049

yeah, that's a great piece

So I watched this again, I liked it better than the first time, I had a bit more sympathy for K, but still found it hard to really care. That piece above says "No one shines like Rutger Hauer’s magnetic Roy Batty", and it suffers for it. Joshi and Wallace are horrible characters - I don't mean just evil, or unconvincing, but unpleasant to be around, speaking in crappy portentous prose-poetry. The CGI is effortlessly impressive, not as thrilling as Trumbull's model work, and it feels strangely empty - I think there's like one crowd scene? In short, technically impressive, hard to love.

Also given that K can be so easily tracked it seems a bit of a doofus move for him to take Deckard straight to his daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aquTeAH_C4I

The CGI is effortlessly impressive, not as thrilling as Trumbull's model work

Kalax video is better than the movie

Differences / blade runner vs do androids dream of electric sheep

San Fran, not l a
2021, not 2019
Animal simulacrum subplot
Deckard is married
Monorail, not flying cars
Holden survives !
The voigt empathy test was developed in the Soviet Union
Rachel is tyrells niece (family name is rosen)

One thing I liked about Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep that wouldn't have really worked in a movie I think, is that Pris and Rachel were the same model android, so they actually looked identical

Also the whole bit with the fake police station is so good

came across this a couple of days ago and found it interesting

Studio Notes to a Test Screening of Blade Runner, January 21, 1981 pic.twitter.com/AGWU252v1O

— 41 Strange (@41Strange) November 10, 2019

now i really wanna see a black and white version

thx also matthewk for posting that weta video and thus introducing me to 3d modeller 'jake evill', the most metal of all 3d modellers

>KTLA illegal firework footage is trending
>multiple comments about how "congratulations, we've literally become Blade Runner"

Me, a video editor with the soundtrack: pic.twitter.com/X1nchJGadb

— Mach Dent (@Mach_Dent) July 5, 2020

Awesome

damn that is beautiful

I'm seeing Atari Star Wars arcade tbh.

Wow - yeah. Nice job senpaku

Bay Area sky turns bright orange, some areas see 'snowing' ash https://t.co/SHo2ZulCV9 pic.twitter.com/fs3IOKVR46

— SFGATE (@SFGate) September 9, 2020

I have to admit, my reaction to the sky yesterday was a reconsideration of 2049 as better than I thought

Waking up today though, just low level terror

The pictures don't capture the glow, or the way light reflects differently off of surfaces when it's all soft red

Yeah as soon as I saw this pic I thought I should re-consider 2049 not lol we're fucked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_m9TUP_t_Y

that shot of the bridge, wow

^^^

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tbT75Qve6s0/Wgu1uxdpkpI/AAAAAAAAVZA/cBxzOjePYNoIYB8so8I6LUD6lyv4hFzXgCLcBGAs/s1600/Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_Oblivion_Upon_Us_087.jpg

i rewatched 2049 a few weeks ago and it's still fuckin great