https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/21/the-rise-of-the-victims-rights-movement
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
The Bryan Stevenson book 'Just Mercy' has a section on victims' rights. They've led to a disparity of sentencing between races and classes. I haven't read the NYer article yet but it seems to go into that.
― adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
see also: mandatory minimum sentencing, largely pushed by these groups iirc
― sleeve, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
Kind of related - mistrial was declared last week in the case of the alt-right shitheads who shot a protester outside a Milo appearance in Seattle, apparently a minority on the jury were of similar mind to the defendants. However a big factor was that the victim refused to testify due to not believing in a punitive justice system, afaik he just wanted to meet with the defendants but I don’t think they agreed.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
I bought a copy of Hasbro's mean-spirited and woefully ill-informed "MONOPOLY: SOCIALISM" board game so you don't have to - a thread 1/ pic.twitter.com/YhZWDjkAnj— Nick Kapur (@nick_kapur) August 21, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside
This is great. If you haven't watched the video it's fucking surreal.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
that Monopoly thing is even more ironic considering the game was originally designed to satirize landlords & capitalism, then was stolen by someone else and turned into a highly profitable board game, none of which made its way to the original creator. capitalism at its finest.
― frogbs, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
That Portland Mercury article is actually getting results: Andy Ngo has apparently been disowned by phrenologist site Quillette, where he was on the masthead until a couple of hours ago.
Andy Ngo just removed Quillette from his bio...... the same day it was revealed that Ngo and the violent far-right group Patriot Prayer had an "understanding" that he would protect them and they'd protect him.(h/t @Avi_Bueno) pic.twitter.com/WDJRST8EYJ— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) August 27, 2019
All traces of far-right provoceateur Andy Ngo have been wiped from the far-right phrenology website, Quillette. He doesn’t even have Quillette in his bio anymore. Rumor has it that Andy was fired for paling around with the white nationalist group Patriot Prayer. pic.twitter.com/lo1yC34WfA— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) August 27, 2019
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
Glorious
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link
Monopoly is also much like capitalism in that it sucks
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link
great news
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:49 (four years ago) link
Do the phrenologists think patriot prayer are too extreme or not extreme enough? Not enough head bearings or head beating getting the lumps to appear in the wrong places?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link
Quillette's editor is claiming that he actually dropped out of service because of his oh-so-traumatic brain injury, but she would.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link
she was the one that published the fake DSA takedown piece a couple of weeks ago right?
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
he only did about 15 live interviews after that brain injury, let the man rest
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
Re: that Ijeoma Oluo about her house getting swatted she wrote something on it, link below. (she wrote one of my favorite pieces from 2018)
https://medium.com/@IjeomaOluo/the-thing-about-safety-a3e4cac767c2
― Yerac, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
argh that Ijeoma Oluo tweet from above about her house getting swatted... that should've said.
There's saying the quiet part out loud, and then there's this fucknut (Modesto, CA):
white supremacist tryna form a straight pride parade accidentally lets truth slip at city council meeting pic.twitter.com/c8fWtOwORT— bhad phag (@hebaddie) September 1, 2019
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 2 September 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
old video, but still refreshingly honest.
― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, 2 September 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
Milo reveals just how much the far right are struggling after being deplatformed from the main social media sites. pic.twitter.com/oB3T94J89B— Roanna 🧙♀️ (@witchofpeace) September 9, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
looooooooool
pic.twitter.com/7CGV3qxfMH— Fintan Hennessy (@FintanHennessy) September 9, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 September 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
rip big man, heaven needed another small businessman crushed by the free market
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link
looool
honestly i don't get their beef w Gab. too many "teen racists", you say? yeah no shit homeboy. it's operating exactly as an online FREEEZZE PEACH zone should be expected to.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
Similar thing with Rave Dubin, going to The Blaze(?) whatever that is, so he can have free speech and also remove the trolls and their right to free speech
― anvil, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
going to brag a little here and divulge that I Was Banned from Gab last year for (probably) relentlessly trolling Torba, his mother, and Ben Garrison. so much for the tolerant 'free speech warrior' right i guess.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
thank u for yr service
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
it was my honor to serve. telling Andrew Torba I was going to call the cops if he didn't wash his dick was my viet nam.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
A really good article on Andy Ngo.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
Have you been waiting for a 1500 word treatise from the Claremont Institute making the intellectual case for calling David French a cuck? pic.twitter.com/tqM9HuJNkm— Adrenochrome Harvester (@ClenchedFisk) September 13, 2019
― j., Saturday, 14 September 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
Downtown Portland in the rain, some fun is happening against the Patriot Prayer types. Thread here:
A satanic ritual (?!) is happening in the square now. I think this is a strategy to distract from Patriot Prayer’s march, in which case: mission accomplished. pic.twitter.com/OIsVxmdDxG— Blair Stenvick (@BlairStenvick) September 15, 2019
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 16 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link
Milo in a crowd of fully disguised and anonymous people sounds like a bad combo.
Milo Yiannopoulos is a disgraced right wing troll who thrives on attention. This warning will be the only mention of him here. Do not allow him into MFF. Do not give him attention. Do not talk about him. Do not spread anything he says. He turns kids into Nazis. Stay away. pic.twitter.com/F87DU3YLls— Furry Takes (@SpicyFurryTakes) September 15, 2019
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link
Aaaand he’s out
I just want everyone to understand that the furry community kicked Milo Yiannopoulos to the curb a million times faster that the mainstream GOP pundit class ever dreamed of doinghttps://t.co/cX4BAggul7— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) September 16, 2019
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
The FBI has arrested a member of U.S. Army who allegedly discussed plans to bomb a major U.S. news network, discussed traveling to Ukraine to fight with violent far-right group, and allegedly distributed info online on how to build bombs. He also allegedly mentioned @BetoORourke.— Mike Levine (@MLevineReports) September 23, 2019
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Monday, 23 September 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
A new career highlight for both of them
"What the fuck is Milo doing here, cornboy?" someone yelled.Milo took the podium and said he's "fallen so hard and so far I've now been reduced to my previous career before I was a journalist and I am Mr. Wohl's personal stylist."He then plugged some new show and went inside. pic.twitter.com/g5dyGsqs4R— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) October 21, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 October 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
https://www.yahoo.com/news/proud-boys-sentenced-new-york.html
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
glad to see them described as an "extremist street gang" in a mainstream pub tbh
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
oh that's syndicated from HuffPost lol whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yeah i was like - this is surprisingly antifascist for yahoo.com
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link
there are some things in here I'm not sure I'd agree with (primarily involving who is classified as what), but the overarching hypothesis seems reasonable
https://www.wired.com/story/not-youtubes-algorithm-radicalizes-people/
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
The thing is, we had a sort of rebranded nazi party which became so big on YouTube that they could run for parliament, and after they were at long last banned from the algorithm for racism, the viewership of their videos fell 87%.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 24 October 2019 07:51 (four years ago) link
Interesting one for me listed there is Red Ice TV, I'm familiar with them from around 2007 when they were a conspiracy theory interview podcast called Red Ice Creations with my flatmate used to listen to all the time. The host was a very softly spoken Swedish guy, the show was interesting to listen to as I got the impression that he shared my opinion that the interviewees were people with fascinating delusions who he respected for their power to create and live in alternative realities. But looks like I may have been wrong about this.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 October 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link
full paper, by the way, is here https://osf.io/73jys/
again, there are some things I'm not sure about, for instance this: It can take days or weeks to produce one hour's worth of text content on Facebook or Twitter, but in some cases, creating one hour's worth of video content takes exactly one hour.
I mean... sure? if you're already someone established enough to livestream, live, with zero production values whatsoever, and have people care. but if you're not, this is not really going to get you any traction (as anyone who's stumbled upon, like, low-production-value let's plays with 40 views knows). the stuff that goes viral is either by a person who is known, or at least known in fringe circles (or tenacious/gonzo enough at self promoting that they can become so), and/or has surprisingly high production values
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
(which seems like a nitpick, but half the framework of the study is that there is a greater supply of videos largely for this reason)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
i haven't read the whole paper but i don't really like what i'm getting from the wired story, it's got this "well, ACTUALLY..." vibe to it, the idea that people are fundamentally "moderates" who are "radicalized" is certainly a questionable assumption but a lot of it comes across like an apologia for youtube, which i don't think is necessary?
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
My main takeaway was that the audience already existed, it was just underserved. That certainly feels correct to me.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link
I also didn’t understand the way they compared viewership numbers between cable and youtube? It seemed like they just made up an arbitrary ratio to represent “globalness” and assumed a can opener
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
to be fair "making up an arbitrary ______" describes more viewership numbers than you'd think
as far as the "well actually," that's kind of to be expected when presenting any sort of counter-argument; it did not come off as an apologia for youtube so much as "it's not as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube"
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine)
but is anybody arguing that it _is_ as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube, or are people just arguing that, you know, unplugging the third reich feeding tube might be a good thing, all things considered? the whole "counter-argument" aspect of it just strikes me as questionable framing
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Friday, 25 October 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link
Not sure what the full story is here, but looks like popcorn time to me
Milo just uploaded leaked audio of Richard Spencer reacting to the death of Heather Heyer and the negative press it did to his movement.Just in case there was any question of the so-called "dapper white nationalist" being a raged fuelled hateful monster.Explicit warning. pic.twitter.com/KpVk2fLYSu— BAILEY, THE LIBTARDTARIAN 🃏 (@atheist_cvnt) November 4, 2019
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link
What a sad pathetic human
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 4 November 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link