Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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xpost any white man thinks it's his calling. Beto can be the chosen one too.

Elie Mystal was trying to address this xpost Alfred (segments from an article and from a response of his):

I understand that Joe Biden’s magic whiteness has a grip on older black voters. Black folks know exactly how dangerous Donald Trump is, AND exactly how racist America is. Biden’s support among older black voters is their indictment of white folks.

I have yet to hear a Democrat, white black brown or other, make a *policy* argument for Biden, versus the other contenders. All I hear, all anybody hears, is this bullcrap "electability" which at its very core supposes only a white male can defeat Trump.
Harris is a moderate. Klobuchar is even more moderate than her, and has actually won elections in the midwest. Booker is peacemaker. Warren is a policy maven.
What does Biden have? What makes him special? What makes people think he can win, when he's actually lost two presidential elections before? He's a white guy. He worked in the Obama administration. That's it. That's the entire argument. Even Biden's own ads advance no agenda other that "remember when when the President wasn't Trump? Boy, that was nice."
I am offended, that Biden has waltzed into this race like the unfrozen caveman candidate, and is being treated like the leading man despite having done nothing to earn that status, despite running what has, so far, been exactly the kind of passionless, gaffe filled campaign that he's always been known for.

Yerac, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

a lot of talk about biden's gaffes has been about senility and brain degeneration but he came out with some crazy ones back in 07/08.

from a nyt article from back then:

This is the fellow who nearly derailed his nascent presidential campaign last year by calling Mr. Obama ''articulate and bright and clean,'' and who noted that a person needed a slight Indian accent to walk into a Dunkin' Donuts or 7-Eleven in Delaware, his home state.

The man who, reading his vice-presidential acceptance speech from a teleprompter, bungled Mr. McCain's name and called him ''George.'' (''Freudian slip, folks, Freudian slip,'' he explained.)

The man who, on the day Mr. Obama announced him as his running mate, referred to his party's presidential nominee as ''Barack America'' and noted that his wife, Jill Biden, a college professor, was ''drop-dead gorgeous'' but, problematically, possessed a doctorate.

The man who has said he is running for president (not vice president) and who confused Army brigades with battalions. Who referred to Ms. Palin as the lieutenant governor of Alaska.

Aides to Mr. Obama said that Mr. Biden's propensity to misspeak could pose problems, particularly in the vice-presidential debate on Oct. 2. They are watching his performance but have not tried to rein him in. They have assigned two veteran minders to travel with him -- David Wilhelm, a former Democratic National Committee chairman, and David Wade, a former spokesman for Senator John Kerry.

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

is being treated like the leading man despite having done nothing to earn that status

tbf Being a former vice-president has earned a lot of other people leading man status in the past

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

not going to delve too deeply into it on the public board, but I know the event coordinator for the venue Biden was at yesterday and the first text I got about the event was “Joe Biden would not stop holding my hand”, followed by “He put his arm around me for the picture, then went back to holding my hand.”

blargh

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

lol wut?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

I'm guessing this friend is a woman

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

brb windexing my eyes after reading that

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

handholder is either a woman, a coal miner, or a Republican

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

I’d say she was more of a handhold-ee than hold-er

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

or is on the board of MBNA

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

Biden has grabbed all our hands and is refusing to let go

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

whoops, acquired by Bank of America in 2006 xp

i bet Joe knows that date

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

You need to remember that even before Joe Biden was Obama's veep he either ran for president or 'seriously considered' running for president four or five times. He can't get it into his head that those multiple failures to gain traction meant the nation was unimpressed by the thought of him as president.

His high poll numbers now are simply based on the fact that he stands inside Obama's aura and because his essential ineptitude couldn't do any serious damage as veep. It's been a dozen years since he had any real power, so people now know him solely through the lens of his upbeat happy 'good guy' personality and have forgotten how empty he is.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

who noted that a person needed a slight Indian accent to walk into a Dunkin' Donuts or 7-Eleven in Delaware, his home state.

I find this one hard to get particularly offended by tbh.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

It's been a dozen years since he had any real power, so people now know him solely through the lens of his upbeat happy 'good guy' personality and have forgotten how empty he is.

This doesn't quite explain his African American support, which I tried to do several posts ago. Emptiness is beside the point. It took months for many of them to move from Clinton to Obama because they were rightly suspicious.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

I said that you have no idea of the symbolic power to a POC of an older white man happily serving as a younger black president's #2.

this, plus my understanding is that POC are extra concerned with 'electability' because honestly they have a lot more at stake

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

who noted that a person needed a slight Indian accent to walk into a Dunkin' Donuts or 7-Eleven in Delaware, his home state.
I find this one hard to get particularly offended by tbh.

― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:13 AM (nineteen minutes ago)

it's still v weird

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

Biden also has a problem with his staff being leaky af and constantly dripping out details like 'we told him not to say this stupid shit but he did it anyway'

here's one example - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/biden-abortion-hyde/591241/

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

it's a very awkward and bad joke made for no reason whatsoever besides to show what a doofus you are. A lot of south asians own Dunkin' Donuts franchises. What an observant boy you are.

Yerac, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

give that man two lollies so his hands will be occupied.

Yerac, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

xps The situation of African Americans in US society is so precarious that it engenders a justified conservatism about making bold or sudden political moves. The chance that any decisive change will bring negative consequences instead of positive developments is so high that extreme caution is reasonable. I presume Biden's mild and clunky racism seems familiar and mostly unthreatening, the kind of white man the black community can feel they understand well and can live with.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

and still, no one knows what "electable" is

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

It doesn't exist in Spanish.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

The closest synonym I could find was comemierda.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

jajajajaja o pendejado

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

elegible surely?

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

hillario mal campagno

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link

it's a very awkward and bad joke made for no reason whatsoever besides to show what a doofus you are. A lot of south asians own Dunkin' Donuts franchises. What an observant boy you are.

Yeah, wasn't really saying it showed great political acumen, just that I wasn't especially offended by it. It was a weirdly patronizing way for him to try to bond with a South Asian supporter.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

the paradox of joe Biden is that he’s a weirdo whose brand is built on normalcy

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

I'd say his brand is actually empathy, and that can make you a bit of a weirdo

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

and if his brand is empathy, his utter lack of it in his personal interactions makes me wonder if he has an angle at all aside from being agreeable

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

his brand is being an out of touch but forcibly touching dipshit.

Yerac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

That's a fairly normal (in the sense of "common") way for a white person to try to bond with a South Asian tbh. xps

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

I was across from a south asian guy on the subway yesterday and caught myself assuming he must be a software developer, but after a second I thought “wait, about that...”

He did look a little like one of my coworkers, though

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

I've been asked if I was in software by a stranger on a subway before. Your second thought was probably OTM.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 August 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

it’s easy to fall into stereotyping based on personal experience but you don’t have to say it out loud!!

also, question your goddamn stereotypes, people

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 22 August 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

Imagine saying stuff like "This is the most important election of our lives" and trying to shoehorn this clearly unwell man in there https://t.co/uOPGoAsZBj

— Opinion Leader (@InternetHippo) August 23, 2019

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 August 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

From the comments to the above tweet:

The only way to stop a bad guy with dementia is with a good guy with dementia.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 23 August 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

if only there was a good guy with dementia in the race

lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

the plot thickens

Spotted at a Biden event in the Hamptons: Fmr. Trump WH Comms Director Anthony @Scaramucci pic.twitter.com/PWVTZ8Qm15

— Ben Mitchell (@bfmitchell) August 24, 2019

Karl Malone, Sunday, 25 August 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link

Remember the episode where Miranda goes on a date with Mooch and ends up walking out and drunk dialing Steve in the rain?

plax (ico), Sunday, 25 August 2019 06:12 (four years ago) link

Joe Biden in Keene, New Hampshire: "I’ve been here a number of times...I love this place. Look, what’s not to like about Vermont in terms of the beauty of it?” pic.twitter.com/YZBP4ybQ3z

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) August 24, 2019

Simon H., Sunday, 25 August 2019 08:37 (four years ago) link

in terms of

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 August 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link

kant defines beauty as that other thing over there

mark s, Sunday, 25 August 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link

Joe Biden was whipping through his stump speech at a rustic lakeside campground here when he stumbled over the location of where exactly he spoke a few hours earlier at nearby Dartmouth College.

“I want to be clear, I’m not going nuts,” Biden told supporters perched on camp chairs on the shore of Loon Lake as the sun sank behind him, turning the sky sherbet shades of purple and pink. “I’m not sure whether it was the medical school or where the hell I spoke. But it was on the campus.”

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-08-25/the-promise-and-peril-of-joe-bidens-frontrunner-campaign

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 26 August 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

perched on camp chairs on the shore of Loon Lake as the sun sank behind him

p good

difficult listening hour, Monday, 26 August 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

Loon Lake.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 August 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

Tomorrow's headline: BIDEN GOES NUTS

Οὖτις, Monday, 26 August 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

how is this not an Onion article

Joe Biden: It Would Be an Insult to My Dead Son for Everyone to Have Healthcare https://t.co/omOnLTuYbq

— Tim Marchman (@timmarchman) August 27, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

Stupid article

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link


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