Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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I use lynx to read nytimes

plax (ico), Sunday, 8 September 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link

I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).

Dan I., Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

Are those safety precautions? About readability? Something else?

alomar lines, Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

ah, sorry, jokes bruv

https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html

Dan I., Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

rms otm

j., Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

i see he keeps that page up to date:

A friend once asked me to watch a video with her that she was going to display on her computer using Netflix. I declined, saying that Netflix was such a threat to freedom that I could not treat it as anything but an enemy.

The Pingularity (ledge), Monday, 9 September 2019 07:42 (four years ago) link

my man

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 September 2019 08:07 (four years ago) link

I think you are misunderstanding, It was a DVD that had just arrived in the mail and she popped it in her DVD-R drive.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 9 September 2019 08:59 (four years ago) link

My preferred joke with the future of "high tech, self driving transportation options" has been that you try to get on a toll road or cross a bridge into Canada and they're like ... this vehicle isn't compatible. You're gonna need a dongle. Pull over to that truck stop over there and you can buy a dongle, because your vehicle needs a dongle.

ን (nabisco), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

nabisco!!

that future is now and it's called brexit

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 September 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

it's also called the SF Bay Area, where they are probably going to completely eliminate the ability to pay cash on toll bridges (the Golden gate Bridge is already automated).

sarahell, Monday, 9 September 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

no dongles required

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

basically you just get a bill in the mail

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

don't be afraid

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

dongles are your friend

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

it's the price of freedom

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

In this dingle dongle morning
I'll come following you

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

lol

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link

Hey @Tesla can you help me explain to my wife why I can't drive her to the dentist? I gotta tell you, if you can't drive it then it's not a car. On hold 25 minutes and counting. pic.twitter.com/qA52jABFHm

— Jon Johnson (@jrjohnson_) September 9, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

cars have never broken down til now

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

you'd think we'd have figured out this whole dentist thing by now

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

yeah actually otm

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

update on my new printer: prints great, slight odour of cigarettes

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

we found the place arcade fire sang about

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

Haiti?

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

magical place where dude's car does not go

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

I'd say you're romanticizing Haiti a bit though I'm no expert on the place

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

cars have never broken down til now

― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:00 AM (twenty-six minutes ago)

adding another thing that can go wrong to stop your car running beyond mechanical issues is dumb tho

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

well put, though I've heard a bit about these self driving cars having a camera or something to make sure the driver person's eyes are open... I think I'm with that

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

My car has some kind of immobilizer if it decides something is amiss. I accidentally activated a warning for it the other day when I left it running a moment while I got out with my keys. Nice for security, but also ominous.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

ominous for your dentist's bottom line?

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

oh shit it's just like that arcade fire song

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

that other one about cars, Ready to Start

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

cars have never broken down til now

used to be unusual for a car manufacturer to remotely cause their product to break down, because they felt it was a good time for your car to break.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

he doesn't even want his car to start. he wants tesla to "help (him) explain to (his) wife."

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

i don't know where this fits but there's a computer system in our Honda which needs to be calibrated exactly right for the car to pass a smog test, even though its emissions are very little. I went in for the test and it failed, and the guy told me "you need to drive your car up the 2 freeway to the 210 freeway and head west for a couple miles and then exit and get back on and come back here and then it should be good, you just need steady nonstop freeway driving for at least 25 miles and that's the only route that won't have traffic."

I did it and it worked but wtf.

omar little, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

Jon: I can't take you to the dentist because my car broke down,
wife: I don't understand. You can't drive it?
Jon: No
wife: Impossible. If you can't drive it, is it really a car that broke down?
Jon: I've been tricked.
wife: I don't understand.
*tweet*

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

i don't know where this fits but there's a computer system in our Honda which needs to be calibrated exactly right for the car to pass a smog test, even though its emissions are very little. I went in for the test and it failed, and the guy told me "you need to drive your car up the 2 freeway to the 210 freeway and head west for a couple miles and then exit and get back on and come back here and then it should be good, you just need steady nonstop freeway driving for at least 25 miles and that's the only route that won't have traffic."

I did it and it worked but wtf.

― omar little, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:52 PM (five minutes ago)

fuuuuuuuuck

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

xxp that sounds fishy, like the VW emissions cheating stuff.

DJI, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

there is widespread fraud in smog testing

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

just need the turbo or whatever to be heated enough to burn off that shit iirc

head down the n4 at 120 and throw her into 3rd is the common advice here

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

in these cases, I don't think the emissions are necessarily even out of bounds. it's a software issue. the sort of issue non-teslas aren't supposed to have.

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

A car's "Check Engine" light 99% of the time has nothing to do with the engine but rather the onboard cpu/diagnostics.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, August 14, 2019 9:06 AM (four weeks ago)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

i get the "check tire pressure" light for no reason at all but it inevitably comes on while on the freeway and i have to pull over and do this other calibration thing so it goes off.

omar little, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

My wife's CRV has that shit too. Lame.

DJI, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

issue. the sort of issue non-teslas aren't supposed to have.

You’re working overtime to miss the point. Cars break down and have quirks, not working because they need a software update like it’s Windows 98 is new.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

also the smog test isn't *not* checking emissions as much as it can't officially and legally pass the test until the dumb software gets its kinks worked out. i asked the guy if there was something wrong, he said the car seemed fine, but i had to literally drive 25-30 miles and then it would be ok and pass the test. he said it happens all the time and he tells people to take the same route and it always fixes it.

omar little, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

There was an article recently about people getting locked out of Zipcars because they were out of cellphone range, in a parking garage, etc. That’s not a problem people had to worry about in the old days of rental cars.

o. nate, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

The software determines a lot about how the car drives now. Check out some car forums and you’ll find people hacking the codes to get higher performance. The potential performance is literally held in check to meet efficiency and emission standards.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

You’re working overtime to miss the point. Cars break down and have quirks, not working because they need a software update like it’s Windows 98 is new.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:41 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm not missing the point. I just don't think the point, which overstates the difference between "needing a software update" and other car computer "quirks," is so profound.

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link


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