The Nintendo Switch

they're all very traditional jrpgs with good production values. they invented the genre in the 80s and haven't really deviated from that formula.

i mostly enjoyed my time with 11 but it wouldn't sniff my fav jrpgs of the generation list

i had a great time with it until i stopped playing

yeah i never finished the true ending, had had enough by then

ciderpress can I bribe you in some way to capsule-review all your top JRPGs of the generation

I have major blind spots so I'd only just heard about Ni No Kuni, which is apparently a remaster. So! Does it stand out? I'm not great with turn based but I think the art looks pretty neat.

i havent played NNK1 but 2 was very disappointing, you could see the exact moment when they ran out their budget and it was only halfway through the game

the big deal with 1 was that ghibli did the animation iirc

Aha, cool. Thanks!

Tim Rogers has sold me

Bedtime story gaming is the only gaming I have

Curious now- what exactly indicated the budget ran out? Suddenly crude character models? Suddenly light or missing necessary cut scenes and fleshed out dialogue?

talking about 2 there, not the one on switch - you get to a second continent and unlike the first there's only one town there and a ton of empty unused overworld space and then you never see another new enemy type after that for the rest of the game, just palette swapped harder versions of existing ones

i think 1 is better regarded but still has the Level 5 problem of not being quite deep enough gameplay wise for its length

also fun fact about ni no kuni 1: it was originally released as a DS game in japan that came with a physical spellbook you had to read in order to learn the spells you used in combat which you would draw in with the stylus

because of that it was passed over for localization and the PS3 game was basically a reboot that redesigned it without that stuff

ciderpress can I bribe you in some way to capsule-review all your top JRPGs of the generation

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i'll do something like this eventually but its too early, theres still at least half a dozen more games i want to play some of which aren't out yet

ni no kuni 1 was ok, really pretty but the battle system was only fun during boss battles
also was one of those where it reaches a natural ending and you think "that was fun" .. and then it keeps going on and on for no good reason

What would y'all recommend as a Switch JRPG for someone who kind of hates JRPGs? I'm very charmed by the looks & environment of DQ XI, but given that it is a "traditional" JRPG, I'm a bit skeptical. I just want a big 'ol novelistic chunk of game to sink some hours into that maybe doesn't have too much in the way of random turn-based encounters and embarrassing fanservice nonsense (the latter is what has kept me away from Xenoblade Chronicles 2, despite the praise for it).

from the video, you can avoid all random encounters in dq xi

FE?

DQXI has the modern style of JRPG encounters where you have to touch an enemy on the field to go into battle mode, not random encounters. it's still turn based combat though.

Fire emblem is turn-based tactics missions if that sounds more appealing to you

i'm blanking on good real-time/action JRPGs on switch other than xenoblade and ys 8 which both have some fanservicey stuff.

I don't know how you could really have a JRPG that someone who hates JRPGs would like. Maybe a very short one.

I was interested in ys 8 cause of the action RPG angle... what exactly are we referring to in regards to fanservice in this context?

the game takes place on a desert island so some characters are uh lightly dressed. plus iirc the first party member is introduced via a dumb scene of adol walking in on her bathing in the river but i dont recall anything else like that afterwards

xp I'm referring to gratuitous T&A characters with dinner-plate eyes.

So ideal is Earthbound without random encounters or say another Breath of the Wild type game?

if you're okay with turn based combat as long as its not random encounters then DQXI is probably the pick still

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I think I can deal with the turn-basedness. I think my ideal game is just BotW with a better story, really.

I really only play JRPGs for the battle systems

the only other japanese open world game on switch is uh...dragons dogma? which i havent played but pretty sure people like that one for the combat and not for the story

you want a good story you read a book imo

Oh, I agree. When I say "better" I mean within videogame standards.

are there any good video game stories

system shock 2?

yeah i mostly like jrpgs for the systems, environment design, worldbuilding, and music which is why stuff like xenoblade and falcom games are at the top of my list. the one weird exception is tales of berseria which is kind of bad at a lot of those things but i found the story unusually moving

i think i hold jrpg stories in higher regard than most folks here though at least to the point where a badly fumbled one can ruin a game for me (see: tales of vesperia)

Celeste is a good videogame story IMO

yeah theres plenty of good video game stories in general

did i hear something about DQXI's music being intentionally terrible? does the switch version suffer from that?

the Switch version will come with an orchestrated version of the soundtrack

rad. this video really makes me want to play it now

the soundtrack is not great because its composed by an 80-something year old dude whose grandfathered in and doesnt really care anymore but at least you get the orchestra version on switch

yoshi’s island is a masterpiece

I finally put in some time to start playing Xenoblade Thingamabob 2. The world building is fascinating already, but one of my speakers started popping in and out during the camera control tutorial and I lost my concentration. I didn’t even make it to the fan service.

Also I tried to play Overcooked 2 couch co-op with my kid earlier and it turns out kids don’t deal well when the controllers start acting up. I’m doomed by some poltergeist

I got about 5 minutes into the DQ11 review before Tim Rogers' insincere tone made me want to vomit and I had to turn it off, but alas, this has always been the curse of Tim Rogers. It does sound like it might be fun, at least.

I loved it

also, it was almost unbearably sincere

Yeah, I'm not sure why he does *that voice* for his scripted videos. He's much easier to listen to when speaking off the cuff.