Poll: Kavanaugh confirmation. Place your bets, ladies and gents!

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Ugh more like walking triggers!! I saw this thread and paranoidally (?) figured that someone somewhere in the news cycle figured Oh! it has been a while since we talked about sexual assault and what better way to bring it up again than a new accusation against that piece of garbage BK!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

from august 7, but our nation turns its lonely eyes to Buzzfeed

#FOIA thread screed

FBI, the WORST agency when it comes to transparency, the agency that routinely violates #FOIA, has ONLY NOW, after NEARLY A YEAR OF LITIGATION, decided to tell me & @BuzzFeedNews that it is withholding the report on its "investigation" into Brett Kavanaugh
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— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) August 7, 2019

Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

more of this please

I sat through those hearings. Brett Kavanaugh lied to the U.S. Senate and most importantly to the American people. He was put on the Court through a sham process and his place on the Court is an insult to the pursuit of truth and justice.

He must be impeached.

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) September 15, 2019

Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

A long read.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

A devastating read.

I wish we could have learned what Brett Kavanaugh has actually done, said, worked on, enabled, covered for, empowered. Perhaps the next book will reveal more. Perhaps the one after that. The collective public conclusion of the most recent book, by Kate Kelly and Robin Pogrebin, seems to be that he was a sloppy, reckless, drunk youth who has largely become better, and that it is perhaps unfair to hold men to standards that we somehow always forgive when they are still boys. We didn’t get to have that conversation either. And the people who most deserve to decide whether he is, in fact, cured of these alleged acts of youthful carelessness, violence, and predation—the women who say he has harmed them—have, other than Ford, neither been heard nor recognized. I’m not certain they subscribe to the narrative that he was a naughty boy now recovered. He spent his confirmation hearing erasing them, and his boosters and fans have made their lives since unbearable. At any rate, they are also powerless, now, to change what has occurred.

It is not my job to decide if Brett Kavanaugh is guilty. It’s impossible for me to do so with incomplete information, and with no process for testing competing facts. But it’s certainly not my job to exonerate him because it’s good for his career, or for mine, or for the future of an independent judiciary. Picking up an oar to help America get over its sins without allowing for truth, apology, or reconciliation has not generally been good for the pursuit of justice. Our attempts to get over CIA torture policies or the Iraq war or anything else don’t bring us closer to truth and reconciliation. They just make it feel better—until they do not. And we have all spent far too much of the past three years trying to tell ourselves that everything is OK when it most certainly is not normal, not OK, and not worth getting over.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

Another telling paragraph:

Two of the three women justices spoke out this summer to support their new colleague. They hailed him as a mentor to his female clerks or as a collegial member of the Nine and urged us, in the case of Justice Sonia Sotomayor, to look to the future and turn the page. It is, of course, their actual job to get over it. They will spend the coming years doing whatever they can to pick off a vote of his, here and there, and the only way that can happen is through generosity and solicitude and the endless public performance of getting over it. I understand this.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

still amazed how the whole confirmation seemed to turn on Lindsay Graham throwing a literal tantrum on the floor of the Senate.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

it was a powerful, persuasive moment for the dumbest people in the country

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

It was a stirring performance, I hope he added it to his reel.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

it was the bathos of a sobbing Irish asshole 'being persecuted.' I thought it was pathetic but it turned on that, not Graham (although his remarks - I think he was the first to speak after BK's opening statement - made it clear the air had changed). of course it resonated with a lot of Americans.

flappy bird, Friday, 1 November 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link

The confirmation hearing was the first time I'd ever tuned in to a livestream of US Senate and wow I didn't realise I had that much respect to lose.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 November 2019 07:24 (four years ago) link

idk if this has been shared but it's an interview with mike davis, the strategist responsible for the intense doubling down on kavanaugh's innocence after it became clear he might lose the appointment. it is CHILLING and if you don't know about the "dead chicken strategy" i recommend reading the transcript or listening to the interview.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/podcasts/the-daily/impeachment-inquiry-democrats-republicans-kavanaugh.html?showTranscript=1

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

you learn all you need to know about him in the opening lines where he says he grew up the son of liberal democrats and won the Alex P Keaton award in 6th gr.
summary: his entire belief system/chilling worldview is a reactionary FU to his parents ;_;

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

Graham's tantrum was one of the most disgusting moments in US political history, I remember getting this sinking feeling in my stomach because I knew it was gonna work. it sucked because after Ford gave her testimony I thought he was sunk. I was like...there's no way anyone's gonna call this woman a liar, her credibility is clear as day. and of course the endgame was just to get her out of the room, send the prosecutor home (!!!) and spend hours thumping the table & apologizing profusely to Kavanaugh

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

It was basically 'all hands on deck to defend the white male patriarchy/"meritocracy"'

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 November 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

there's no way anyone's gonna call this woman a liar,

the grossest part about it (arguably...there were a lot of gross things about that day) was that the talking point republicans that day was "we don't think she was lying. we believe that she was assaulted that day. we just don't believe she remembers correctly that it was brett kavanaugh, the golden boy."

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

of course, within a couple days that morphed into "this was a scheme by the democrats to take down the golden boy brett kavanaugh and it failed, and ford is a liar", the kind of blatant lies we've all become accustomed to, but the day of, in particular, was filled with such disingenuous bullshit that it was fucking unbearable

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

My dad posted on some public fb post that Dr Ford is a "loon that couldn't keep her story straight" and I felt very good about no longer speaking with him.

Yerac, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

which is an incredibly nuts argument to make! how do you remember everything so vividly except for the one small detail about who it actually was. the only reason you'd make that argument is because you're too much of a coward to call her a liar to her face. its almost as if each and every one of them know that yeah, he probably did it

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

the only reason you'd make that argument is because you're too much of a coward to call her a liar to her face.

remember when the GOP senators hid behind a female prosecutor

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

it was the bathos of a sobbing Irish asshole 'being persecuted.'

― flappy bird, Friday, 1 November 2019 05:16 (thirteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is ok?

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

well, he's not Irish, he's American, so prob not

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

yes the sexual assault prosecutor who was there solely to question....the victim

god it was so insane at the time but in retrospect it's even more nuts

frogbs, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

no, Judge KAVANAUGH was the victim, sporty

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

um, i think you mean JUSTICE KAVAVANUGH, THE GOLDEN BOY OF THE SUPREME COURT

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

first of his name

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

has anyone read the link i posted? they describe the orchestrated attempt to destroy CBF's credibility as part of their attempt to get him onto the supreme court at all costs.

baby beer boy bret was not going to fail, in other words. they would have said and did say anything to ensure his success.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

Really resonated. He said when dogs killed chickens, they would take those chickens and wrap it around those dogs’ necks. And as those chickens rotted around those dogs’ necks, those dogs lost the taste for chicken. And I think that’s what Republicans need to start doing with the left.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

there it is! the dead chicken strategy :(

i haven't stopped thinking about this fool ever since i heard the interview on the radio (in the car in the rain on the way to see a show w a friend) weeks ago. it's DARVO + dead chicken shame, a real cocktail of coercive/abusive tactics. being exposed to the details of their slandering of her character over and over takes its toll. the only thing that makes me feel better is to share it with others.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

it = information about the larger strategic push by conservatives to force their agenda on all of us

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

I read the link and was deeply disturbed. I just have this feeling that alternate reality is going to win over facts and it depresses the heck outta me.

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

well, don't get depressed and fucking fight.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

yes, i agree! it is really depressing and also we need to check the urge to tap out on account of it being depressing.

i believe it will help if the greater dynamic (the shockingly cruel coercive behavior of those pushing the conservative agenda) can be exposed. one conversation at a time, if necessary. that's why i listened to it even though tbh it was quite hard!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

Maybe my capacity for comprehending metaphor is slipping but ... is he calling Trump a dead chicken?

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

has anyone read the link i posted? they describe the orchestrated attempt to destroy CBF's credibility as part of their attempt to get him onto the supreme court at all costs.

i heard it when it came out! don't feel too bad - i've pushed various segments from the daily over the last several months that i thought were genuinely good and unique and containing information that wasn't anywhere else, and i'm pretty sure no one has ever clicked/read any of them

mike davis is one of the worst people on the planet. he shares many similarities with the people involved in the disinformation campaigns with tobacco and climate change. i'm sure they have a secret poker game in a really smoky, hot room where they talk about all the terrible things they've accomplished over the past week

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

yes he is evil

regarding the dead chicken -- no, it's not trump -- i would recommend reading the transcript of the interview -- they go into detail about what the chicken is. i can copy and paste it but it's really long. i would read from the point where they list the tenets of the strategy and the dead chicken stuff is in there.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

not only evil but his entire evil philosophy is predicated on "FU mom & dad!" which is juvenile and petty on top of being evil

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

Saw an awful, awful play last week.

The protagonist is a meek and lonely man who can’t get dates because he stalked a girl when he was 17. His name ended up in a blog, that detailed the things he did to the girl—and the blog took on a life of its own, where other women came forward to detail their own experiences of being victimized. Now, when women google his name, they find this blog with some true and some fictional stories about what he did as a perpetrator.

The play centers on a court case, where the man is trying to get the blog removed from the internet. Some things the playwright did to try and get you to feel that the perpetrator was the victim:

1) The protagonist is meek, soft-spoken, boyishly charming in a bumbling sort of way.
2) His mom and dad died of cancer back to back when he was younger.
3) The girl who he stalked was the one who started the blog, and she herself may or may not have embellished things to reflect how being stalked made her feel (which she finds out by believing his words instead of her memory)

I went into the play thinking it would be one of two things: something informational about digital privacy and its importance, or some bullshit Brett Kavanaugh garbage. It was the latter.

Instead of trying to explore what forgiveness and atonement look like in the digital age, it paints the victim as a liar who has ruined the life of a young man. Further, the play misrepresents the GDPR, which is damaging to digital privacy in a big way.

I assumed it was written by some white guy, but in fact, it was written by one of the women who wrote on Suits, which I’ve heard is similarly intolerable.

Anyway, fuck this play and fuck Kavanaugh apologists.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Saturday, 2 November 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

Oh, the other thing that’s vomit-inducing is how the protagonist’s love interest who eventually accepts him and absolves him of his sins and gives him meaning is peak manic pixie dream girl.

Her: “You’re funny.”
Him: “what? No one has ever told me that before.”
Her: “Weird is good. I have a screwy sense of humor.”

Jesus fucking Christ, do better.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Saturday, 2 November 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

written by a man, I presume?

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 2 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

As I mentioned above, I thought so too. In fact, it wasn’t.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Saturday, 2 November 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

a fellow traveler I guess

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 2 November 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link


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