This is the inevitable thread for ILxors in their forties

Oh ugh yep all the "wait I'm now older than parents were/famous ppl were" is one of the few times I actually feel old.

But I do think prior generations DID look and behave "older" than our gen does

yeah my dad and mom were already acting like their life was over when they were my age. I aim to never be like that.

At 44, I'm desperately clinging to my perceived youthfulness despite being a physical wreck.

I'm 46 next month and considering I have 3 year old and 3 month old daughters I don't feel too bad. The agony of getting up after crouching or kneeling on the floor is probably the worst. It doesn't help that last year I went from a 20 minutes each way bike commute to working from home - I don't miss the office or the time lost but I do miss the exercise. Have bought a turbo trainer in a hopefully not vain attempt to make up for it.

Not seen this thread before and just had a merry time reading it all.

44, bald, 2 kids (11 & 13. Affectionately known as the idiot squad, but not *that* affectionately). I used to have long hair but got lupus in my mid-20s and it started falling out in patches. Hid it for a while and eventually hacked it off and haven't really given it a second thought. Back is pretty fucked, but I swim and walk a lot; have recently started planking which is definitely making a difference. Had a midlife crisis about 5 years and started teaching: English, 11-16 yr olds. It's fucking mental and they're merciless with the baldness but that's OK*. Today: 'Sir, when you wash your face how do you know when to stop?'. Cheeky bugger.
(*at least I think it is. Do I legitimise other forms of teasing by being so easy with it?)

"have recently started planking which is definitely making a difference"

fnarr! apologies for being the insolent snickering little 45 yr old shit at the back of the class!

Hehehe. See me at the end, baldy!

But I do think prior generations DID look and behave "older" than our gen does

Mm. Definitely partially a change in societal expectation but also the fact that drinking/smoking/etc went down a lot in terms of literal physical appearance being affected, I'd argue. My parents (neither smokers, only mild drinkers at most) long since reached 'old' status as they're now in their mid-late seventies, but honestly they only started seeming that way to me...maybe ten years ago?

Also...the accuracy

https://twitter.com/kris10felicetti/status/1174395124270411776

Trying that again:

I am "I need to see the set times posted" years old

— Kristen Felicetti (@kris10felicetti) September 18, 2019

But I do think prior generations DID look and behave "older" than our gen does

I am constantly (generally for the standard peri-menopause, menopause, weight, arthritis, cancer stuff) trying to remember what my mom was like when she was my age -- and coming up with, oh yeah, that was 1990, when I was a depressed, sullen, angry teenager and I hated her (because I hated everyone) so I really remember very little because I was so self-absorbed.

also the fact that drinking/smoking/etc went down a lot in terms of literal physical appearance being affected, I'd argue

Good point. Prob other environmental health factors at play. Better medicine for us, starting from birth. Lead & asbestos not as prevalent? We eat like shit as a whole, but we're all AWARE that we do. Vitamins and skin care routines are de rigeur.

Definitely partially a change in societal expectation but also the fact that drinking/smoking/etc went down a lot in terms of literal physical appearance being affected, I'd argue.

idk - I'd argue that drinking and smoking are things I associate more with younger people than older people - at this point, culturally.

Fashion definitely has played a role, I think, more than these habits. If you look at the increasing similarities between youth and adult fashion?

Genetics still is probably the major factor -- my parents came from similar backgrounds, had similar habits, and when they were in their mid-late 40s (they were highschool sweethearts) - my mom was entirely gray haired and looked her age, and my dad's hair was still completely brown and people thought he was 10 years younger.

The big "whoa I'm old" moment for me came recently when I watched "When They See Us" on Netflix (about the Central Park 5) and realizing that those kids/men - were my age. Incarceration and trauma definitely has an effect on the physical appearance of aging ...

The big "whoa I'm old" moment for me came recently when I watched "When They See Us" on Netflix (about the Central Park 5) and realizing that those kids/men - were my age.

i had a similar reaction to watching that! not that i am old necessarily but it hitting like an anvil on the head that we were and therefore are all the same age. i remember writing a paper about them in high school, probably soon after they were arrested. the thing i remember most was the word "wilding". seeing them as adults made me emotional because they are my peers.

i felt a similar thump when a guy in my hs class died from complications related to chronic alcoholism. it had been so long since i had seen him that he had developed a drinking problem that was so bad that it killed him. that's a long time!!

yeah my dad and mom were already acting like their life was over when they were my age.

In a few weeks, I'll be as old as my mother was when my dad died.

i remember writing a paper about them in high school, probably soon after they were arrested. the thing i remember most was the word "wilding". seeing them as adults made me emotional because they are my peers.

It made me feel old because you see them as adults near the end of the series -- and they look fairly old -- and the series, along with so many others now (e.g. season 3 of Riverdale) shows that time as a "period piece" -- like, 1990 is "historical" ... that incident was definitely one of the reasons my mom forbade me from going to college in NYC -- mom logic being: if a nice white girl got raped and almost murdered there, then undoubtedly this will happen to you -- which I realize now was only a year later.

45 here. Firstly I gave up drinking 17 years ago, which I think has been a major factor in not looking as old as my parents did at my age, despite neither of them being big drinkers. But the biggest difference by far is that I walk at least 3 miles a days and do other exercises as well (planking! I should try that again even though it's very hard). I know for certain that neither of my parents exercises at all in their mid 40s. I think that my father bought a tracksuit in the early 80s and went jogging literally twice, but that was it.

um, is the majority of ilx in their forties now? is it all over?

xp - i didn't think they looked old necessarily but knowing what they had been through had aged them in ways the eye both can and can't see made me want to know them better, to watch everything. after watching the ava du vernay series i watched everything else i could find with them speaking as adults -- an interview with oprah, the ken burns doc, anything -- just to see them over and over as adults. they remind me of people i know irl.

um, is the majority of ilx in their forties now? is it all over?
two separate questions! :) what is "it"?

um, is the majority of ilx in their forties now?

nah, pretty sure majority is in their 30s but a significant number are in their late 30s

shows that time as a "period piece" -- like, 1990 is "historical"

I will never be able to wrap my head around the fact that the 60s are the same temporal distance from me as a kid as the 90s are to kids now. The 50s were only 30 years before my childhood in the 80s. Now the 80s are basically MORE than 30 yrs ago to kids! The 50s seemed sooooooo ancient to me as a kid. 50s/60s were relatively recent to my parents; "oh yeah the 50s, when I was in high school...good times...that don't seem all that long ago".

How old are you as of Jan 09, 2008?

you can take this and add 11 years i guess? though there's no way there's that many people on here anymore

I have lived my life measured in ILE posts

xp - there are also new people tho

are there

xp to lachera: it's it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG_k5CSYKhg

BTW Mike Patton is 51!

i didn't start posting until 2009 (maybe late 2008) -- there are posters newer than me so ...yeah dude

weird how my health is probably the best it’s been in decades. i hardly ever get colds any more, my back/neck/foot pain issues have receded. the only major issues are things like hair loss, minor hearing loss/noise (which will happen when you abuse your ears) and one of my eyeballs apparently starting to fall apart.

recently a doctor gave me a gentle cholesterol warning, so that (combined with new confidence associated with starting to come out socially) has given me incentive to make some changes: lost around 7 kg, bought a more interesting wardrobe, just generally far more confident and positive about life. i’ve been getting compliments from randos, and some guy on a tram hit on me the other day. stuff i never thought would be in prospect in my mid-40s.

Ha I hear that, AA

one of my eyeballs apparently starting to fall apart

Joe Biden?

I'm in reasonable health but my physical fitness/strength is FUCKED. Years of a sedentary job and bad knees/ankles and not wearing orthotics and not exercising much and now I am struggling to use stairs, get into/out of bathtubs, get up off the floor if I kneel, etc. I'm currently doing some very focussed physio exercises to try and bring things back to normal but I almost feel like I need a cane, and I am not even 50 yet.

USE IT OR LOSE IT YO :|

I hear you on that. I tiled my bathroom floor today and used up approximately 110% of my energy and probably can’t get out of my glider/chair now. Been nice knowing you all.

that’s one of the many reasons i use a standing desk, walk around the office like 20 times a day, get off the tram earlier &c. don’t want my vital bits seizing up just yet.

Ever since I moved to SF in 2015 I've had the real luck of being able to easily walk to and from work each day -- and I'm duly grateful.

The second half of my forties has been an amazing mix - marriage breakdown, going from decent physical shape to pretty nasty back problems, massively better self-knowledge and self-understanding, wonderful new partner who's here for the long haul, absolute best sex of my entire life, very positive changes in friendships, got into new types of music, feel hugely more positive about the future, great relationships with my kids. Many of these things are interrelated of course. Despite many difficulties I feel so much better off than I was at 44. Compared to 40? not so clear an improvement, but I am glad that the way things were headed then, are not how they are now. And I'm looking forward to my 50s.
Oh and speaking as a guy who thought he was in pretty decent shape without needing to be fussy about exercise - please, everyone, find ways to keep up your core strength. I compensated more and more for a weak back and bad posture as time went on, and now it's a crippled mess.

yes agree about core strength

xp I love walking in SF. I used to have to drive miles to work every day, but now it's nice to be able to walk everywhere I want to go

happy to hear you have had those experiences MatthewK

I used to have limits for how far I thought I could walk, but my range over time has really expanded

I’ll be 50 next summer. My forties have been so bad that I don’t even dread turning 50. Kind of looking forward to it almost. There’s no inherent magic to numbers divisible by ten but who knows.

I'm 45. Yesterday I taught my first class of students who are the same year as my (oldest) daughter. It's a little weird!

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The second half of my forties has been an amazing mix - marriage breakdown, going from decent physical shape to pretty nasty back problems, massively better self-knowledge and self-understanding, wonderful new partner who's here for the long haul, absolute best sex of my entire life, very positive changes in friendships, got into new types of music, feel hugely more positive about the future, great relationships with my kids. Many of these things are interrelated of course.

― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK)

i hear people talking about how "the millennials aren't having as much sex and the sex they are having is terrible!" and i don't know i always took having an unsatisfying or barely satisfying sex life as being endemic? but i guess it's different because a lot of it for me has been a function of being in a long-term relationship. i don't want to talk about certain things because they're pretty private and because also, you know, people don't necessarily want to hear the gory details (or else think that talking about sex is necessarily a form of flirting, which is pretty uncomfortable in its own way), but not talking about things is a pretty good recipe for unsatisfying sex... talking within the relationship is best, sure, but people in a relationship still exists as individuals with individual desires, and the buildup of emotional baggage in a relationship is a pretty big barrier to just awkwardly blurting shit out without forethought.

main change in my knees is that since i've started bending them properly i have way more crepitus and it's kind of embarrassing.

I moved to a big city when I turned forty and haven't had a car since, and the stair climbing that come along with reliance on public transportation have been a pretty good way to keep my knees in good condition.

xpost-ish When I was in San Francisco last summer I commented to my wife about how many people I saw walking with canes.

Probably more for the Over 50s (maybe?) in this thing but any empty nesters? Thoughts, expectations, disappointments, sudden onsets of regret at things unsaid, advice not given...asking for a friend.

my youngest is 14 & I'm dreading the point when they're all moved out. my kids are my best friends (not including my partner here).

^^^

this week my older daughter (17 in October) started making legit plans to visit colleges and my heart went in my throat. She had to snap me back to attention.

I do worry abt my mental health when this happens...wondering if it might be wise for me to move, too—I don't mean to be nearer to them, but moving my life somewhere else for a major change