already 40£ on cdkeys... I'm optimistic...
xp
― heard about you (||||||||), Friday, 20 September 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
I'd happily pay $40.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 September 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
same. got goose game and puzzlequest tho so that should keep me for a month or so.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 20 September 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
y'all are skinflints. Video games are impossible to make and all of them should be at least $60.
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 20 September 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link
i made a bunch of games in megazeux when i was 14 its not too hard
― ciderpress, Friday, 20 September 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
Silby, my bet is that Nintendo’s doing just fine
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
I've been playing through the NES/SNES Zeldas on Switch Online. spending $60 on the next one is my destiny.
― Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
oh Nintendo is doing great, truly crazy numbers on the software side, but like for example Celeste, last year's game of the year, was worth $60, but is $20, and that's the sort of price discrimination that bums me out.
That said I'm glad cheaper games are accessible to more people.
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
I've got no problem with them charging $60, if that's what they want to do, but on every other system the price steadily drops after a while. There are plenty of huge AAA games I've gotten for the PS4 for less than $20 that surely took a heck of a lot more time and work than a graphical rehaul of this Zelda game. Or, you know, games that will at least occasionally be on sale for significantly less than retail. I've noted it before, but Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze was a port of a Wii-U game and it cost *more* on the Switch than it did on the Wii-U!. But the Dark Souls Remastered, for example, was $40 across all systems.
And again, as far as gold standards go, Hollow Knight is $15 for a gorgeous, awesome, long and involved original game, certainly one of my faves of all time. I would have happily paid more for that one, but clearly the developers were happy charging a pittance.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 September 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
Yeah Hollow Knight is all-time insane value for money. Plus I’m stuck again so I’ll be playing that fucker for years.
I bought Link’s Awakening on the day of release because I finally admitted to myself that I’m a Zelda groupie. I also have an 11 day old newborn so I’ve played it for like five minutes, but it looks adorable! Would be surprised if it’s better than the new Switch version of Link to the Past, though.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 22 September 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
Switch would be perfect with a newborn.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 September 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
Fuck yes
― fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 22 September 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
Xpost
yes! I had a good session on the Ori & The Blind Forest demo yesterday while I was lying down, with the baby passed out and snoozing on top
In the name of newborn cupboard space I also gave my PS3, wii and gamecube away to a friend’s daughters and feel a lot of relief about not having to finish those games
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 22 September 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
We got a switch for the kids and no one but me has played it much :/ I'm reluctant to get LA for $70 (which is what it costs in AUD) if its a bit of a lightweight Zelda. Would I like it if I liked Minish Cap?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 23 September 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link
It was my 2nd favourite Zelda (after LttP) for a long while (now Breath Of The Wild is my favourite). The music and story is amazing! $70 is way too much though, it is a GAME BOY GAME.
― fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 September 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link
Yeah thats why I'm demurring! But if you like the music, thats pushing me to get it haha.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 23 September 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
Started LttP on the train ride back from Baltimore today. It'll probably keep the Link's Awakening cravings at bay. I've never played LttP, so it's nice to visit a venerated classic for the first time.
Has anyone tried that new Kirby party game yet? Is it any good?
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 23 September 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
Oh LttP is the best one. Don't ever use a FAQ for it, figure it out
― fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 September 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link
i just beat the first dungeon of the second round and i am lost.
― Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 September 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link
it is such a leap forward from the first two, though. So many of the things i loved in ocarina started here, and i never knew.
― Tart Prepper (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 September 2019 03:12 (four years ago) link
The pacing is perfect, it completely broke plebe expectations for A Game Arc-- my brother and I absolutely believed that a defeat of Agahnim meant a victory, and were blown away by the fact that we were actually only 1/4 of the way through-- a feat that FF6 attempted to recreate and did narratively, if not as effectively-- and most importantly the difficulty balance is exactly right, it scales upward in difficulty effortlessly, there are few secrets that are so obscure that they can't be figured out in-game, no tortuous impossibility of the first two Zeldas nor the hand-holding of latter-day Zeldas.
Link's Awakening is overall better-designed, to me, and has far better plotting, but it's a Game Boy game, so it'll never have the same shine as LttP. Majora's Mask is the Finnegan's Wake of the series, impossible to parse without a guide, and yet ultimately more rewarding (for me) than Ocarina-- aside from the faggoty Zora plot line it's an amazing game. Wind Waker is perfect right up until the 2/3rd mark (in regards to time spent playing it), at which point it becomes a Triforce fetch quest and reminds me uncannily of the moment in Twin Peaks Season 2 when James Hurley is doing things and I'm punching the couch begging for it to be over.
I don't know why I don't rate Ocarina highly at all.
― fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 September 2019 05:19 (four years ago) link
links awakening is my favorite 2d zelda but i have no real desire to play the remake. game boy fidelity was always part of its mystique imo
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 September 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link
I don’t think I realized that the feeling of grandiosity fgti mentioned above was a staple of the Zelda franchise. I was a child for OoT, and I felt dwarfed by the scale of the game. To a kid, once you’ve retrieved the Spiritual Stones, you think surely the game must be close to over. I thought that feeling of wonder was something only a kid could feel, and then I played Breath of the Wild.
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 23 September 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link
agreed that LttP is the best. it's a mood
― Non stop chantar (crüt), Monday, 23 September 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link
Started LttP on the train ride back from Baltimore today.
Hold up, you don't need a wifi connection to play this? That is, I have a trial of Nintendo Online, so I have access to the SNES library, but I can download this and play it without online access?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
Yeah, you download the SNES app and it just downloads all the games I think. I had started while I was connected to wifi but then continued completely disconnected.
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 23 September 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
yeah it runs offline, though if you're offline for more than like a week it will look you out until it's checked in to make sure your sub is still going
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 September 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
Is it time for me to buy a Switch yet???
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 23 September 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
Fucking yes, dude
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 23 September 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link
Like, a secondhand one or a new one??
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 23 September 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link
like a new one dude!
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 23 September 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
won't the s/h ones go down in price now the new one with the better life is out?
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 23 September 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
possible but it's a pretty minor change, dunno how many people will upgrade just for an extra hour or 2 of battery life
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 September 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
@ Unctious, I just found every individual section of Ocarina— aside from the Gerudo part and the very ending— and the Bottom Of The Well— to be incredibly unmemorable. I played through it about five years ago and was like “oh right, the early game is boring; wait, the Hyrule invasion is boring too; ah yes the belly of the fish, boring...” and on and on and on. Loved Phantom Ganon as a boss, loved the Gerudos, but otherwise it just didn’t do much for me, especially considering how Mario 64 is my favourite in the series
Sorry to digress! What are these weird SNES games I’ve never heard of on my Switch now?
It was fun to play Stunt Race FX again for about five minutes lol
― fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
there are SNES games on the Switch now??
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
gotta download a free app if you're on their subscription service but yes! they've been weirdly quiet about it but it is very awesome.https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/super-nintendo-entertainment-system-nintendo-switch-online
also:https://www.gamespot.com/articles/snes-nes-games-on-switch-no-longer-coming-in-month/1100-6469688/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
yeah a lot of these snes games are not great. I have never played Link to the Past or Super Metroid so I should play those. but like Pilotwings, Stunt Race FX, Starfox, F-Zero...modern versions are just so much better. As museum pieces they're ok. My kids lolled at how bad those games looked, so we've added to the "dad is a dinosaur" story. though they love SMW obviously.
― L'assie (Euler), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
I agree; more than half of them are garbage. But the winners!
Here are the launch SNES titles for Nintendo Switch Online:Super Mario WorldSuper Mario KartThe Legend of Zelda: A Link to the PastSuper MetroidStunt Race FX (Available for the first time since its original Super NES release!)Kirby's Dream Land 3Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's IslandStar FoxF-ZEROPilotwingsKirby's Dream CourseBRAWL BROTHERSBreath of FireDemon's CrestJoe & Mac 2: Lost in the TropicsSUPER E.D.F. EARTH DEFENSE FORCESuper Ghouls 'n GhostsSuper Puyo Puyo 2 (Available for the first time in the U.S.!)Super Soccer (Available for the first time since its original Super NES release!)Super Tennis (Available for the first time since its original Super NES release!)
Super Mario WorldSuper Mario KartThe Legend of Zelda: A Link to the PastSuper MetroidStunt Race FX (Available for the first time since its original Super NES release!)Kirby's Dream Land 3Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's IslandStar FoxF-ZEROPilotwingsKirby's Dream CourseBRAWL BROTHERSBreath of FireDemon's CrestJoe & Mac 2: Lost in the TropicsSUPER E.D.F. EARTH DEFENSE FORCESuper Ghouls 'n GhostsSuper Puyo Puyo 2 (Available for the first time in the U.S.!)Super Soccer (Available for the first time since its original Super NES release!)Super Tennis (Available for the first time since its original Super NES release!)
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
what are the biggest things missing besides dkc and earthbound
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 September 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
oh smrpg
Basically, you wanna play Mario World 1 and 2, Zelda Link, Super Metroid... and that might be it but those four are roughly as good as the system gets!No idea wtf is the appeal of Pilotwings in 2019 but it's hard to get too angry when they're freebie add-ons with the promise of more to come.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
at the time I just played a ton of NBA Jam and Mortal Kombat, but those won't be coming.
― L'assie (Euler), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
I'm a SNES fan. Super Metroid is all-time, as is Mario World although I don't know how they hold up to new equivalents.
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
Shame Chrono Trigger isn't on there. You'd expect everythign to be available considering you can hack the SNES Mini and put pretty much any ROM on there
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
xp i would also add Super Castlevania, Evo, Final Fantasys/ Secret of Mana/Chrono trigger(never gonna happen), Gradius III, SF Alpha 2, Super Punch Out, Actraiser/Soulblazer, Super Starwarses, Mega Mans, NBA Jam, Ogre Battle, Harvest moon, Earthworm Jim, Bomberman, DKC 2 and 3, NBA Jam, Shadowrun... but yeah Earthbound and ESPECIALLY Super Mario RPG
in many ways, the SNES was my fave console.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
street fighter and megaman and secret of mana are already on switch
3rd party stuff won't show up in the snes app unless it's small-time enough that they don't care about selling it on their own e.g. breath of fire
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 September 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
SUPER PUNCH-OUT
― Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 September 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
I'm playing Super Castlevania at the morning and I'm trying to work out why people liked it so much. It's quite monotonous on the whole
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 23 September 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
my realistic hopes are EVO, Actraiser, Ogre Battle, Harvest Moon, Earthworm Jim, DKC 1/2/3, Shadowrun, Earthbound, SMRPG, Punch Out we will likely get a lot more shovelware with one good game on each update.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
xpost I kind of feel that way about a lot of old games. I mean, nostalgia is a powerful thing, but for example there is a local arcade that usually has a few hundred old school cabinets on rotation, and my buddy loves to go there, but I find the games so broken and basic compared to current games that even my nostalgia has a limit.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link