Best of last night, visually: Long tall JC's pilled, incredible shrinking mouse face keeps atop his roller coaster lankiness. Did not know that he was dogged for supposedly having "Negro" wife!Rosannn, affectionately: "Dylan knew the melody [to 'I Still Miss Someone'} better than Dad did."JC, smiling: "You've changed the melody."Dylan, enthusiastically: "Yeah I changed the mel-oh-deee."
― dow, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
Didn't see whole ep, but also appreciated Merle on young Loretta: "She sung her way out of prison." And sounded like he might be right that her singing on the first single, "Honky Tonk Girl," was her best ever, although she still makes really good albums.
Really liking the commentary from Ray Walker of the Jordanaires. Fave that I heard was his description of how Patsy had Willie's demo phrasing stuck in her head, which didn't fit the preordained slower, shuffle-y arrangement---but then she did it, speeding up just for a liminal flickering vibration of "Crazy"-ness during the last note of every line, like she's gonna fly off the perch, but...
― dow, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
Xpost'96, eh? If it ends with the circus flashpot soap opry of Garth, bringing Chris LeDoux Aerosmith Elton John Billy Joel Knights In Satan's Service, and some good self-written weirdo ballads, into demographically apt realms and reams of mainstream country family entertainment, that'll be a good place to end it.
― dow, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
Cash & Dylan at the piano
I don't think I'd ever seen this before, unless it shows up in mangled form in Eat the Document...?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
It's definitely in the PBS/Scorsese Dylan doc from 2005.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
ah, forgot about that
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
So Lesley RiddleDeFord BaileyArnold ShultzRufus “Tee Tot” PayneGus CannonRay CharlesCharley Pride Darius RuckerBut I’ll bet No Bobby Hebb And especially No Jerry “Swamp Dogg” Williams, Jr.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 September 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link
Or Arthur Alexander
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 September 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link
didn't know Emmylou Harris was so revered in the seventies as a purity pony -- that was a revelation
I loved watching ten minutes devoted to George Jones' "He Stopped Loving Her Today," compensating for a near-total absence or as part of "and Tammy."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link
Billy Sherrill!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 00:19 (four years ago) link
Any interviews with James Burton? I was shocked to hear an interview with him just last week. Still alive!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
Inexplicably, Burton isn't even mentioned in passing, despite the inclusion of a brief clip or two of his playing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 00:36 (four years ago) link
Nice repurposing of Cisco Pike footage.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link
I can't remember specifically, but I definitely remember seeing his paisley Telecaster...probably during an Emmylou Harris clip.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link
Charley Pride illustrating "Loving Her Was Easier..."...
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
For a second thought Peter La Farge was Nick Cave.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 01:16 (four years ago) link
Whole lotta these fuckers have died since recording these interviews. Good on Ken for getting this done.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link
But i guess they didn't get Leon Russell? I know they have a set narrative, but Hank Wilson's Back was the 2 in the 1-2 Roots Punch behind May The Circle...
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link
There better be more coverage of glen campbell than “like Johnny Cash, he had his own television show, but it was nowhere as important as hee haw.”
― BrianB, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 03:30 (four years ago) link
I think that actually was it, and it sucks.
That said, less Vietnam more Junior Samples.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link
Being inspired after watching Dolly Parton sing “Dumb Blonde” to look up Curly Putman’s songwriting credits came across this:The Paul McCartney & Wings hit "Junior's Farm" was inspired by their short stay at Putman's farm in rural Wilson County, Tennessee in 1974
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link
what a contrastMerle Haggard’s Mom takes the greyhound every chance she can to see her son in prison and takes on all the shame & disgust from her own family & rematived, while Kristofferson’s mom disowns him ~by mail~ just for trying to become a country singermomma haggard <3
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:08 (four years ago) link
rematived = relativesO_o
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:09 (four years ago) link
Yeah, that was pretty nice of Merle’s mom.I am an episode behind. So Kris Kristofferson is coming up next? Do they mention him sneaking demo tapes to Charlie Louvin?Also, apologies for getting confused and thinking Connie Smith had been married to Marty Robbins.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link
Kristofferson is a big part of tonight's show, ep 6. Louvin isn't mentioned, but Cowboy Jack Clement and Marijohn Wilkin are.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:21 (four years ago) link
Thanks. One time I heard an interview with Kris Kristofferson during which they called Charlie to discuss this and anything else they might want to talk about. After Kris and Charlie greeted each other they barely said anything, seeming to be holding back some laughter, presumably at whatever unbroadcastable words would have come out of Charlie’s mouth at any other time.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link
Think the deal was that Charlie was breaking a rule by accepting a demo tape from the janitor or whatever Kris’s actual job was, although not sure how this lines up chronologically with the Marijohn Wilkin relationship.
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link
Here is some background and that conversation:http://blog.lightintheattic.net/a-conversation-between-charlie-louvin-and-kris-kristofferson/
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link
Also in case the doc never gets to it and you missed the earlier Chemirocha craze here is a link: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/chemirocha-how-an-american-country-singer-became-a-kenyan-star
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:31 (four years ago) link
Goddammit they skirted Glen Campbell entirely by classifying him as a pop singer and I’m fkn PISSED
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link
Ugh
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link
Just throwing this out there, but Jimmy McDonough's book on Tammy Wynette (and Billy Sherrill and Glenn Sutton and George Jones and George Richey) is great.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 05:01 (four years ago) link
That’s on my list, in my pile etc./pvmic
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 05:13 (four years ago) link
Somebody circulated a copy of St least the first episode with announcements for the visually impaired. So I need to download a NE version.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 07:05 (four years ago) link
I thought the last episode was fairly well done, even though it ended with a slide show of all post-1996 country performers (without identifying any of them, which was a little annoying). But that may be my ignorance; if I'd known nothing about the music, I might have thought the last episode of Jazz was fine. Also, for as much as they focused on the commercial success of each artist, George Strait didn't get much coverage, despite having 60 (!) number one hits.
Were there any super-glaring omissions in the final episode?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
Like many of you, I’m unsure how I can go on living now that I know George Jones once marketed women’s underwear called Possum Panties.— Jon Wurster (@jonwurster) September 24, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
yeah that was a horrifying detail O_o
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
George's Secret
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
See the end of item 6 here:https://www.neatorama.com/2015/06/17/10-Facts-You-Probably-Didnt-Know-About-the-Beatles/
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/4/49/I_Love_Lisa_66.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20131017175029
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
Lots of good links on here, thanks. Here's the xpost excellent James Burton interview:https://www.npr.org/2019/09/03/757066866/elvis-guitarist-james-burton-i-went-professional-when-i-was-14 with a mention of the new monster box Elvis: Live 1969.
― dow, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
lol Grisso.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Year he ascended the come-back launched in Ded. '68, subsuming country and all his other genres/subgenres, a la Dylan and The Band, electric Miles, etc.
― dow, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Goddammit they skirted Glen Campbell entirely by classifying him as a pop singer and I’m fkn PISSED― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:49 AM (fifteen hours ago)
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:49 AM (fifteen hours ago)
I'm holding out hope that they return to Glen for "Rhinestone Cowboy" -- that was a giant hit. Perhaps it shows up in the Ronnie Milsap section where we see how popularized country had become by the mid-70s. Opportunity there to talk about his evolution from Square-Jawed Purveyor of Jimmy Webb Songs to Cocaine-Riddled Beardo Fighting With Tanya Tucker.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Aren’t there like two hours reserved at the end for Johnny Cash’s Rick Rubin comeback?
― The Hillbilly Chespirito (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
i always sort of thought of glen campbell as basically a pop star too, there i said it
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
Yes, Cash's Rubin recordings get a lot of time, though Rubin isn't interviewed, which is too bad -- it would've been nice to hear why he chose to work with Cash, and his perceptions of how Cash's fans, and the country audience at large, would receive the records. And no, they don't return to Glen Campbell; the only coverage he gets is the couple of sentences and few seconds of "Wichita Lineman" in episode 6 or 7.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
"Country" and "pop" are the "this is Jazz" and "hey, that's not Jazz!" of this series, apparently.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
Unless there was more in the front half of ep 4 (which I missed), but it seems like Jim Reeves and Ray Price got a similar treatment, except spread out in pithy bits over a couple of shows.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link